Beverley Bunn, Sweat Lodge Survivor, Speaks Out, Reveals Details Of Tragic Incident

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FELICIA FONSECA | 10/21/09 08:03 PM | AP

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FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. — More than 50 followers of spiritual guru James Arthur Ray had just endured five strenuous days of fasting, sleep-deprivation and mind-altering breathing exercises when he led them into a sweat lodge ceremony.

It was supposed to be a religious awakening, the culmination of a $9,000-plus-a-person retreat outside Sedona, Ariz., aimed at helping people find a new vision for life. But it wasn't long before the ceremony turned into a terrifying experience.

People were vomiting in the stifling heat, gasping for air, and lying lifeless on the sand and gravel floor beneath them, according to participant Beverley Bunn. One man was burned when he crawled into the rocks, seemingly unaware of what he was doing, she said. Ultimately, three people would die.

When participants exhibited weakness, Ray urged them to push past it and chided those who wanted to leave, she said. "I can't get her to move. I can't get her to wake up," Bunn recalls hearing from two sides of the 415-square-foot sweat lodge. Ray's response: "Leave her alone, she'll be dealt with in the next round."

Bunn, a 43-year-old Texas resident, provided her wrenching description of the sweat lodge tragedy in an interview with The Associated Press, the first public account from a participant in the Oct. 8 ceremony.

It also marks a significant revelation in the criminal investigation into Ray over the episode because it portrays him as driving participants to stay in the lodge despite signs all around him that the situation had gone bad. Investigators are considering bringing charges against the guru and trying to learn about his actions that night in a case that has cast a harsh spotlight on Ray and his self-help empire.

Howard Bragman, a spokesman for Ray, said many people at the "Spiritual Warrior" event had "amazing experiences," and noted that people should not rush to judgment about what occurred during an ongoing investigation.

"This is only one person out of many at this point," he said.

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According to Bunn, participants were given short notice before they were to enter the sweat lodge. As they readied for it, they removed their jewelry, placed prayer pouches filled with nicotine around their necks and ripped out pages in a journal they kept detailing what in life was holding them back.

A fire heating up rocks outside the sweat lodge consumed the journal pages.

Lightly dressed in bathing suits, shorts and tank tops, they received a blessing meant to cut away negative energy before crawling into the sweat lodge. Ray led the group inside and sat next to the opening. A second row formed, their bodies closest to what would be a pile of heated rocks.

Ray sprinkled them with sandalwood meant for aroma. He led the group in chants and prayers in a Native American tongue during the sweat lodge ceremony. He poured a 5-gallon bucket of water over the rocks, sending a rush of steam throughout the makeshift structure. That began a two-hour ceremony broken up into 15-20 minute rounds that some would later describe as "profound," according to a transcript of a call Ray held with participants days later.

For others, it was terrifying.

Participants began to show signs they were weakening midway through the ceremony. By the time people started collapsing, Bunn had already crawled to a spot near the opening of the sweat lodge, praying for the door to stay open as long as possible between rounds so that she could breathe in fresh air.

At one point, someone lifted up the back of the tent, allowing light into the otherwise pitch-black tent. Ray demanded to know where the light was coming from and who committed the "sacrilegious act," Bunn said. A man, yelling "I can't take it, I can't breathe, I can't do this" had crawled out, Bunn said.

People were not physically forced to stay inside but highly encouraged. "It was all about mind over matter, you're stronger than your body," Bunn said.

Bunn lasted the entire two hours in the sweat lodge but nearly two dozen others were hospitalized. Kirby Brown, 38, of Westtown, N.Y., and James Shore, 40, of Milwaukee, died upon arrival at a hospital. Liz Neuman, 49, of Prior Lake, Minn., died more than a week later at a Flagstaff hospital.

No drugs, alcohol nor stimulants of any kind used in the sweat lodge or during the retreat, Bunn said.

"These people, including myself were really just searching for a better way to live and a better life," she said. "And I commend us for that."

Looking back, she said it's easy to see how so many people were overcome. No one was well-hydrated, the sweat lodge was poorly ventilated, no safety tips were provided and appropriate medical care wasn't available, she said.

As the leader of the "Spiritual Warrior" event, Ray pushed for participants to go without sleep, enter into altered states of mind through breathing exercises and meditation, compete in a game in which he played God and fast for 36 hours during a vision quest, Bunn said.

Sheriff's investigators in Arizona's Yavapai County are treating the deaths as homicides but have yet to determine the cause. Ray has hired his own investigative team to try to determine what went wrong, and vowed to continue with his work despite criticism.

"I have taken heat for that decision, but if I choose to lock myself in my home, I am sure I would be criticized for hiding and not practicing what I preach," he wrote.

Ray has become a self-help superstar by packaging his charismatic personality and selling wealth. He uses free seminars to recruit people to expensive seminars like the Sedona retreat that led to the sweat lodge tragedy.

Ray told participants the sweat lodge ceremony would be one of the most intense experiences of their lives.

As it neared the end, Bunn said some participants found themselves physically and mentally unable to tend to those around them. After the eighth round, Ray instructed them to exit the sweat lodge just has they had entered – going clockwise, a movement meant to symbolize being inside a mother's womb.

What followed was a triage situation with people laid out on tarps and water being thrown on them to bring down body temperatures. Some people weren't breathing and had bloodshot eyes. One woman unknowingly walked toward the fire before someone grabbed her, Bunn said.

Shouts of "we need water, we need water," rang out. "They couldn't fill up the buckets fast enough," Bunn said.

Off to the side, a medical doctor participating in the retreat performed CPR on Shore and Brown with the aid of others. When Bunn asked if she could help because she knew CPR, she was told to stay back.

Ray was standing about 10 feet away, watching, Bunn said. "He didn't do anything, he didn't participate in helping. He did nothing. He just stood there."

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FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. — More than 50 followers of spiritual guru James Arthur Ray had just endured five strenuous days of fasting, sleep-deprivation and mind-altering breathing exercises when he led ...
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- Zan1 I'm a Fan of Zan1 permalink

I recently learned of these tragedies when my friends started asking me to stop attending sweat lodges. I feel very compelled to offer some observations, as well as my regret that this has happened. My prayers and regards for family and friends of the victims.

If you ever attend a sweat lodge ceremony and find the lodge covered in any way with plastic materials, do not participate. The lodge and people within it must breath and plastic must make this difficult if not impossible. Some may put plastic over them to keep them dry when they are not in use, but this should be removed before using the lodge.

It is the responsibility of a lodge leader to track the welfare of all those who have entered the lodge. If the group of people is so large as to make this impossible, as was the case here, do not enter.

If you feel at all like you need to get out of the lodge, whether it is between rounds or not, whether the door is open or not, whether you have "permission" from the lodge leader or not, you should go, even if you are being told that this makes you "weak."

I would hate to see lodges in general, as I have in the last few days, held responsible for the neglectful way in which this one was apparently run.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 11/27/2009

Okay, so the Native Americans are 'primitive'; - they need to be changed, modernized, made to cut their hair, forced to not speak their dialects, and converted to Christianity. And, they should be relegated to the Reservations and left to live in poverty and disease because despite all these efforts at transforming them, they are still unfit to live amongst us – the members of ‘civilized’ society. But then, we can make millions by charging enormous amounts exploiting their ancient rituals, for conducting so-called 'self-improvement' retreats, calling them 'spiritual experiences'!
Oh! My my! Aren't we clever?
And, for the suckers who paid for these retreats: You cannot 'buy' self-improvement by attending any seminar or retreat for a week or more, and no one else can 'improve' you, even though they might claim that they can and that they are qualified to do so. The problem is that in today’s world, people think they can buy ‘everything’, including self-improvement. Self-improvement has to come from within yourself, and it usually does not cost anything, and needs only some introspection and a willingness and commitment to change.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 10/24/2009
- AZAFVET I'm a Fan of AZAFVET 9 fans permalink
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As P. T. Barnum once said, there's a sucker born every minute. Seriously, after following this for two weeks, I still don't know exactly what they died of, embarrassment maybe?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 10/22/2009
- MadHeart I'm a Fan of MadHeart 146 fans permalink

I guess being near death would be an intense experience. Put this huckster away for life.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 PM on 10/22/2009

It is immediately apparent upon meeting me that I have not missed too many meals. However, some years ago I undertook a one week fast, drinking only water. It was one of the most intense experiences of my life. Wouldn't trade it for anything. BUT if people are coerced into "spiritual" disciplines, events like these are bound to happen. IF there is a God, I am quite certain that "God" also created the mind. Use it, for goodness sake.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 10/22/2009
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People need to be very careful when it comes to many of these "alternative healers". I have been around Neo Pagans, as well as white people who are involved in Native American or Eastern belief systems. Many of these people are genuine but there are just as many charlatans and users as there are in Christian churches. Greed, stupidity, and demagoguery transcends all religions and non religions alike.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 10/22/2009
- onalimb I'm a Fan of onalimb 5 fans permalink

"...compete in a game in which he played God and fast for 36 hours during a vision quest..."

This says it all for me.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 10/22/2009
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For Heaven's Sake, Don't Drink the Kozmic Kool Aid !
by Flash Silvermoon

Interesting synchronicity today as I contemplate the needless tragic deaths in the "Sweatlodge" of last week. I have been furious ever since I heard the News commentator release the sad report about James Arthur Ray's "Spiritual Warrior Retreat in Sedona, Ariz.
At $9,000 + a pop to sit at the feet of this Guru wannabe, we are seeing the Corporatization of Spirituality, Enlightenment to those who can afford it, God /Goddess sold to the highest bidder!
I had initially been pleased that "The Secret" had opened some people to positive thinking but as I saw it take on a Cultish twist where people started essentially blaming the downtrodden for not having a fat bank account and casting condescending glances as if they alone had the ANSWER.
Then, I actually saw the film which begins with of all things, a man in a loin cloth, running away from persecutors because HE HAS THE SECRET! Talk about re-writing History and giving it a radical mastectomy to boot! Everyone should know that it was the Wise Women of old who first had the secret and that it was no secret, no big deal just simply understanding that what one believes can indeed create and give shape to one's reality. READ MORE on my Blog Flashes of Insight www.flashsilveremoon.com

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 10/22/2009
- oakley9 I'm a Fan of oakley9 20 fans permalink

IMO th se cret is BS because it doesn't address spirituality at all. I am actually tired of hearing about it. I've studied metaphysics for over 30 years and it is not all about getting money, AT ALL.
Abundance and balance encompasses all areas of life. Not just financial. It's sad when people distort the truth.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 10/22/2009
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The gooroo needs to spend the rest of his life in the cement lodge...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 10/22/2009
- Deli I'm a Fan of Deli 32 fans permalink
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Ray calls himself an "expert" in indigenous practices in his bio on the page of www.thesecret.tv.com

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 10/22/2009
- Deli I'm a Fan of Deli 32 fans permalink
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Here is a link to a Native American viewpoint on this atrocity.

http://www.blackhillsportal.com/npps/story.cfm?ID=3492

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 PM on 10/22/2009
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Good article. Thanks

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 10/22/2009
- Trueheart I'm a Fan of Trueheart 47 fans permalink
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Thank you for connecting us with the Lakota Sioux take on what went wrong.

As the video trailer says:

First they killed our people.
Then they stole our land.
Now they steal our faith.
www.spiritsforsale.com

When I visit the website to watch the video, I discover that Spirits for Sale is for sale.

Aiiiyii!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 10/22/2009
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I am enrolled with the Yanktonai Hunkpati Dakota Sioux Nation of Crow Creek, South Dakota. We have been fighting these thieves and exploiters since the white settlers invaded. We have been taught not to hate but to fight back and when we fight back, we get spit upon our faces with these greedy folk with their pockets lined with dead leaves (money).

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 10/23/2009
- Deli I'm a Fan of Deli 32 fans permalink
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I think what the North American Indian tribes faced represents the worst genocide in the history of the world. The more I learn about what happened in all parts of the "country" the more horrified I am. There is no restitution large enough.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 10/23/2009
- Zan1 I'm a Fan of Zan1 permalink

Thanks.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 11/27/2009

Bottom line: the penalty for extreme gullibility should not be death.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 10/22/2009
- BlueZoo I'm a Fan of BlueZoo 44 fans permalink

$9000 will buy a lot of time on a shrink's couch and your life isn't endangered doing so! These sheep have more money than good sense. This so-called "guru" is going to have a tough time selling his message to a jury of twelve taken from the general population who probably don't earn $9000 in three months of toil. He deserves every year he gets behind bars!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 10/22/2009
- ZellaBee I'm a Fan of ZellaBee 14 fans permalink

Shrinks are capable of doing a lot of damage! Then you have to spend more money to undo it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 10/22/2009
- oakley9 I'm a Fan of oakley9 20 fans permalink

Some shrinks are not much different than this guy.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 10/22/2009
- babeltek I'm a Fan of babeltek 2 fans permalink
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"I have TAKEN HEAT for that decision" ...WHAT?!? Is he completely unaware of the words that come out of his mouth???

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 10/22/2009
- skippyB I'm a Fan of skippyB 8 fans permalink

Now 9000 pre-reformation bucks could have taken you somewhere. Goes to show you the strain of inflation on the dollar over the centuries, kids.
and she's buuuuuuuying the staiiiiiirway to heaven

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 10/22/2009
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