For The "Lucky Few" Who Renegotiate Their Mortgages, Towering Debt Remains

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First Posted: 10-22-09 05:00 PM   |   Updated: 10-22-09 06:25 PM

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A Huffington Post analysis of recent mortgage-modification data shows that even those relatively few homeowners fortunate enough to renegotiate their loans are almost never getting lenders to forgive any of the principal. Instead, monthly payments are being cut either by lowering inflated interest rates, extending the duration of the loan repayment, or simply postponing the day of reckoning by setting up large balloon payments decades down the line.

Furthermore, President Obama's much heralded $75 billion plan to prevent foreclosures is essentially limited to people who still hold a job -- leaving many of the approximately 10 percent of Americans who are unemployed with no more options than they had before.

In short, there is some relief for homeowners who haven't lost their jobs and were paying high interest rates - but not so much for people who've lost their jobs, bought a house that they can't afford, or now have significant negative equity due to the bursting of the housing bubble. For them their burdens remain.

The relative failure of Obama's plan is a particular disappointment, consumer advocates say. After spending hundreds of billions of dollars in bank bailouts, the administration proposed a plan that would pay mortgage servicers for successfully modifying eligible delinquent home loans. Investors that owned securitized mortgages that were modified would get paid, too. Most importantly, distressed homeowners would get to keep their homes.

Despite the incentives, the program hasn't been a roaring success. The administration originally said it would "help up to three to four million at-risk homeowners avoid foreclosure by reducing monthly mortgage payments." Thus far, about 500,000 homeowners have been placed in three-month trial plans. Though it's still early on (the program was launched in March), as of Sept. 1 only 1,711 of the trial modifications had become permanent.

Here is a summary of the plan's progress from the Congressional Oversight Panel:

For those lucky enough to get a permanent modification, principal forgiveness is not in the cards. While interest rates are being brought down, as are monthly payments (on average a $500/month decrease), the overall amount owed isn't changing.

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In fact, in some cases the amount of the loan is actually going up. That's because the life of the loan is expanding. Rather than reducing the overall amount owed, lenders and servicers are mostly lowering the monthly payment (temporarily) and making borrowers pay for longer. So instead of having 20 years left on a mortgage, for example, it could be 25 years. Loan modifications outside of the government's program are no different. Principal forgiveness is rare, and virtually non-existent in securitized mortgages.

In fact, balloon payments -- instances when a large amount of the money owed is due at the end of the mortgage in full -- are more common than principal forgiveness. From data on modifications of securitized home mortgages, courtesy of Fitch Ratings:

All of this suggests that investors and lenders are willing to take the hit for having enabled and charged high interest rates -- but are still refusing to take responsibility for having underwritten excessively large loans, at overly inflated prices.

More bad news comes from a recent report from the Congressional Oversight Panel, which concluded that "it increasingly appears that [the program] is targeted at the housing crisis as it existed six months ago, rather than as it exists right now."

What's changed is the rising unemployment rate. Because eligibility under Obama's plan requires certain levels of income (depending on one's monthly mortgage payment), the unemployed -- without other sources of cash -- could be shut out.

And the panel doesn't expect the modification rate to go up, seeing as "servicers may initially move to modify the easiest surest cases, and the most motivated and organized homeowners are likely to be among the earlier applicants."

And unfortunately, in the end, a significant number of modified loans will eventually re-default. A sobering chart:

And don't expect anyone to ride to the rescue. Freddie Mac, the agency empowered to police the Obama plan -- like getting to the bottom of why otherwise-eligible homeowners are getting rejected for loan modifications -- is falling down on the job, according to a recent government watchdog report described by the nonprofit investigative news organization ProPublica.



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Thank you for Shashien for this article! Keep up the great reporting!
Our mortgage was sold; we were never notified. Our first attempt to modify, we were told by servicing company, National City, there were investor's on our loan and should wait until the investor decided to adopt the HAMP plan. NCM gave us a forbearance agreement and lowered the payment for four months.

Two months later we were notified that the servicer was changed to GMAC Mortgage. We had to start the modification over again. GMAC would not accept agreements from NCM. GMAC asked for our loan docs at the start of servicing our mortgage, stating docs hadn't been transferred yet. Aren't they supposed to have the originals? Our title changed to GMAC as lender this month.

We have been sent modification docs that conflicted within themselves; have $50,000 in arrears interest, fees, servicing charges. Are signed up for the HAMP plan; GMAC wants us agree to principal increase. We won't sign it. Now, we don't qualify for HAMP, because we are not going through "trial" payment period on an amount we don't agree to. We have been told by GMAC, "This is it, there is no negotiations with the documents."

We need another solution. We will not settle for anything less than principal reduction on a modification. Or we need to find a great attorney in OR to help us.

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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 10/25/2009

buying homes is a gamble

buying stocks is a gamble.

hell getting married is a gamble..

if things dont work out the way you thought, govt should come in and make up for the difference??

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 10/24/2009
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This is a two year program. In the first three months, 500,000 people have been brought in. So saying this:

"The administration originally said it would "help up to three to four million at-risk homeowners avoid foreclosure by reducing monthly mortgage payments." "

and that the program has not been successful is misleading. Since the author can't complain about the program not being on track, he switches to complaining about the way payments are lowered to 1/3 of imcome:

"For those lucky enough to get a permanent modification, principal forgiveness is not in the cards."

Not only do homeowners want to pay less for their homes than most renters, renters pay an average of 40% of their income for rent, they also want to reduce the prinicpal and own the home too! I'm sure nobody who qualifies for the new Section 8 for mortgages would turn around and flip the house when the market picks up if their principal were reduced. That would be greedy and we know only wall street types are capable of that.

By the way, the administra­tion-backe­d bill to allow judges to reduce principal in foreclosure agreements died in committee. How do you expect lenders to comply with a law that doesn't exist?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 10/23/2009
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Im one of the 'lucky" ones. B of A modified my loan.

I fell behind on my payments, and they would call me several times a day. They sent me a financial hardship package and assumedly reviewed the documents I provided. Then they sent me my revised loan docs.

My payment went UP $100.

Now they dont call anymore, or know who I should talk to when I call.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 AM on 10/23/2009
- sposton I'm a Fan of sposton 172 fans permalink
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The least the corrupt Congress can do for people is to repeal all the onerous parts in the personal bankruptcy law they passed a few years ago, under instruction of the thieving classes. How can all that crap still remain the law is beyond comprehension! That alone would be a good reason to throw them all out.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 10/23/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

Everything I have checked has cost more in fees than it is worth and extends the life of the loan... so what is the point....I guess I can afford it for a while, but I will bail eventually...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 AM on 10/23/2009
- demfemme I'm a Fan of demfemme 7 fans permalink

Did you know the value of a new car drops preciptiously when you drive it off the lot? That ain't supposed to happen when you buy a home. The value should go up fairly steadily.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 10/23/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

that was only for the last 50 years, once the baby boomers hit the real estate market, the prices started going up about 1.5% above inflation on the average....

But it used to be that interest rates were about 1.5% above the inflation rate and the banks were satisfied with that when tax rates were 90%...Now they are 6% above inflation and the banks are making out FABULOUSLY.....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:08 AM on 10/23/2009
- dnpvd51 I'm a Fan of dnpvd51 3 fans permalink

If foreclosures lower the price of housing, doesn't that make housing more affordable?

So how again does preventing forclosures make housing more affordable?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:08 AM on 10/23/2009
- BBackSoon I'm a Fan of BBackSoon 39 fans permalink
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Cars are supposed to depreciate.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 10/23/2009
- BBackSoon I'm a Fan of BBackSoon 39 fans permalink
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Except it you’re the one left holding the bag.

You lose your house they sell it for a reduced amount and you get to pay the rest but you have no house.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 10/23/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

they selll it to their friends at a reduced amount....that is exactly what Jeb Bush did in Miami....he gave up a building that cost 5 million decided not to make payments, the S&L took it back and then resold it to JEB BUSH HIMSELF for 500.000.... great way to get 90% equity in real estate property...TOOO BAD you and I cannot do that...I would love to get 90% equity in my house tax free with no effort at all....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 AM on 10/23/2009
- satyriasis I'm a Fan of satyriasis 22 fans permalink

We need a Darwinian flush alright. But not a rapid one. A more controlled one.

Too many houses on the market drives everybody's home values down. It's called oversupply.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 AM on 10/23/2009

No, the main problem is viewing a house outside of its primary function - as a home. Once people begin looking at houses as an investment the market becomes irrational and unstable markets follow.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 10/23/2009
- MyVesta I'm a Fan of MyVesta 14 fans permalink

You know, I cannot believe how the value of the new car I bough has gone down.

It's just not fair.

Can I get a bailout, please?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 10/22/2009
- BBackSoon I'm a Fan of BBackSoon 39 fans permalink
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Cars are suppose to depreciate.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 10/23/2009
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I'm a former bank insider. US Bank. GMAC. Mortgage lending divisions. Had friends working for BofA and Countrywide. Yada Yada There is good news for many people.

Many loans have violations of Truth in Lending Act, RESPA, Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act as well as predatory loan violations. In a very large percentage of loans the chain of custody of ownership in the loans is broken and cannot be fixed. All this adds up to serious amunition for a homeowner trying to save the home. So how can they find out and go fight?

Step one is to get a "Forensic Loan Audit" by experts. Step two is to take the results to a really good attorney who is up on the brand new case law like the Kansas Supreme Court decision.

Lots of power to homeowners. The big banks and Wall Street guys in many cases really screwed up.
This has been written about in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times and here on Hugg

http://livinglies.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/ny-times-exposes-mers/

BB

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 10/22/2009
- eilish I'm a Fan of eilish 15 fans permalink
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Thanks!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 10/22/2009
- markinaz I'm a Fan of markinaz 3 fans permalink

Yeah, let's reward greed.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 10/23/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

It is fighting greed,, Why should I be paying the highest interest rates in the developed countries to the banksters when the money the rich are getting is not even being taxed....I am paying my taxes all of them...no secret letters for me, no breaks at all....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 AM on 10/23/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

Forensic Loan Audit, sounds good to me. but I am sure my bank has it totally under control...Might not, if someone else has bought the loan....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 AM on 10/23/2009
- Josh Seipp I'm a Fan of Josh Seipp 24 fans permalink
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Thanks for posting this info! Hopefully I'll never need it, but I'm saving it just in case.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 10/23/2009

One of the very same "lenders" who is still in business solely because of the US Government bailout continues to "stiff" it's' customers. GMAC

For those "lucky few" whose loans are modified, they are on interest only terms for five years with their loan not coming down one red cent.

The US Government should begin forcing (encouraging) those lenders to modify these loans to reasonable fixed rate loans. It would be better for the long term economy, encourage homeowners to resist walking away from their properties and help reduce the high foreclosure rates and decreasing home values that continues to plague the US economy.

Of course, to do so would make too much sense. Meanwhile, the sharks keep feeding on their prey.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 10/22/2009
- Tiger99 I'm a Fan of Tiger99 18 fans permalink
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Just exactly why should they forgive any of the principal? No one forced anyone to sign anything... Shouldn't renegotiating the interest and lowering payments be enough?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 10/22/2009
- mlm4420 I'm a Fan of mlm4420 10 fans permalink
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Why should they forgive principal? Because they took billions from the Federal Government. A lot of people including me bought a home that I could afford, but that doesn't take away that that it is no longer worth anywhere near what I paid. The mortgage crisis was caused by banks making credit cheap, approving people they knew could not afford the loan payments, ect. They didn't care if that loan was going to get paid or not, because they were going to repackage the loan and sell it at a profit anyway. Basically, they flung the dead cat into someone elses yard and scurried off with the earnings.
Let me ask you, why should the banks continue to make billions on interest over an inflated principal?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 10/22/2009
- MyVesta I'm a Fan of MyVesta 14 fans permalink

So the government is responsible for you buying an over-priced house? Hmm.

Caveat Emptor - ever heard of it?

Funny how things don't work out when it's buy high, sell low, isn't it?

Perhaps you were seduced by the culture of flipping.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 PM on 10/22/2009
- jasdmd0 I'm a Fan of jasdmd0 3 fans permalink

Umm last time I checked, the banks lowered their mortgage rates AFTER the FEDERAL RESERVE lowered their rates. Additionally congress is to blame for passing legislation that encouraged high risk lending without things like income verifcation, credit score checking and mortgages available for 100% of the properties value.

Unfortunately, like yourself, I played by the rules too and bought a house within my financial comfort zone and put down the traditional 20% as a down payment. Now as my wife and I are looking to refinance and drop out interest rate, I'm laughing as the mortgage broker tells me that because of Obama's program that i can take out a new mortgage for 110% of my homes value - when will we learn???

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 10/22/2009
- Tiger99 I'm a Fan of Tiger99 18 fans permalink
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So should every American have the principal on lost equity or value on their home forgiven or just these people? Purchasing a home on the premise the Real Estate Market always grows is a gamble... Housing prices fluctuate... If the principal is forgiven and the Market becomes healthy and the value of the home rises will you expect the homeowner to return the forgiven Principal or just keep the profit accrued and pocket the increased values equity? We are expecting the banks and Wall Street to pay back the tax money loaned are we not? Lost Jobs and Catastrophic Medical Expenses excluded, why as a taxpayer who didn't make these bad investments continue to support people who did?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 10/22/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

Exactly, the banks played into that game of the real estate bubble....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:17 AM on 10/23/2009
- eilish I'm a Fan of eilish 15 fans permalink
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Because banks are the ones who have all the secret methods that caused the entire housing insanity in the first place. They have yet to have suffered in any way over their un-regulated greed.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 10/22/2009
- Tiger99 I'm a Fan of Tiger99 18 fans permalink
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No one put a gun to anyones head and said take the loan... There was no secret method or secret going on, Americans were warned for years that this crisis was going to occur, some of chose to listen and prepare and some of us chose not to...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 10/22/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

They are not RENEGOTIATING, they are just playing the shell game, they are still trying to skin us alive or sell us down the river...THERE WAS A REASON for the GREAT DEPRESSION and it was the same kind of activity....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 AM on 10/23/2009
- ginmark I'm a Fan of ginmark 6 fans permalink

Why would lenders forgive principal? If ANYBODY gets a bank to forgive principal, I want to know about it because if they do it for one, they have to do it for all. I bought a house that I could afford and am current on my 30 yr conventional mortgage and nobody is forgiving any of my principal..... Why should I have to pay in full when I did it right and somebody else who bought way over their heads gets a big break? I feel sorry for some of the people in foreclosure situations. People who lost their jobs, etc.... but for others I think it's just time to face reality. You bought more house than you could afford. Time to get real.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:36 PM on 10/22/2009
- MyVesta I'm a Fan of MyVesta 14 fans permalink

But, but, but the "Flip THis House" programme says I am ENTITLED to triple the value of any house I buy by virtue of my acquiring it. or by virtue of the crappy Home Depot tile that I put on my bathroom walls and on my kitchen floor.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 10/22/2009
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They keep saying that banks aren't lending, neither are credit card companies. The government is about to crack down on abusive charges to customers.

So how are they going to make money?

I haven't heard any answers to that question yet. If banks aren't making loans, shouldn't their profits be declining?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 10/22/2009
- schatsie I'm a Fan of schatsie 71 fans permalink

That is the POINT, THE BANKS ARE STILL BOOKING GREAT PROFITS and PAYING THEMSELVES GREAT BONUSES...but god forbid, they should lower interest rates and god forbid they should pay the REAL TAXES that you and I pay...They are paying less than 15% on the bonuses....while you and I are coughing up payroll taxes of 15% (look to Kevin Philllips and Michail Moore for the explanation if you do not understand it) plus another 28% on marginal income.....

There is a CLASS WAR and it is a TAX WAR....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:22 AM on 10/23/2009
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Bonuses for people making $250K+ at comanies receiving tarp funds are taxed at 90%. Most other bonuses are taxed at 70%. In Oregon, I was taxed a little less than 50% when I got signing bonuses and stuff like that.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123745823318182841.html

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 10/23/2009
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Check out this video about anger directed to Wells Fargo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV3ImC4Ol7s

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 10/22/2009
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