Gibbs Slams Cheney's "Dithering" Charge Over Afghan War

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JENNIFER LOVEN and ANNE GEARAN | 10/22/09 10:30 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — The White House on Thursday forcefully rejected criticism from former Vice President Dick Cheney and other Republicans that President Barack Obama's Afghanistan decision is taking too long.

"What Vice President Cheney calls dithering, President Obama calls his solemn responsibility to the men and women in uniform and to the American public," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said. "I think we've all seen what happens when somebody doesn't take that responsibility seriously."

Obama is nearing a decision on whether to significantly expand the U.S. war posture in Afghanistan by honoring a military request for thousands of additional forces. The decision had been expected as early as mid-August, when Obama's new war commander prepared a harsh assessment of deteriorating conditions in the 8-year-old conflict, and now is expected in what Gibbs calls "the coming weeks."

Obama is also weighing with his national security team whether to focus more narrowly on al-Qaida terrorists believed to be hiding in Pakistan.

Top commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal's still-secret troop request outlines three options – from as many as 80,000 more troops to as few as 10,000 – but favors a compromise of 40,000 more forces, officials have told The Associated Press. There now are 67,000 American troops in Afghanistan, and 1,000 more are headed there by the end of December.

The previous top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. David McKiernan, submitted a request for more troops that went unfulfilled by former President George W. Bush. Obama partly granted that request in March when he ordered an additional 21,000 U.S. troops to go to Afghanistan this year.

Cheney said in a speech Wednesday night that Obama needs to "do what it takes to win" and that "signals of indecision out of Washington hurt our allies and embolden our adversaries."

Taking a similar tack on Thursday, former GOP House Speaker Newt Gingrich criticized the administration during a speech in Fort Worth, Texas, suggesting Obama has projected confusion onto the Afghanistan conflict in his public statements.

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Gibbs said such comments were curious "given the fact that an increase in troops sat on desks in this White House, including the vice president's, for more than eight months, a resource request filled by President Obama in March."

Other Democrats chimed in to defend the president, despite opposition among congressional Democrats to a major expansion of the U.S. war effort.

"Republicans have developed a troubling pattern of blaming President Obama for trying to fix all the problems that they created," said Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., a member of the Armed Services Committee.

Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., also defended Obama, when asked about Cheney's criticism. "I think President Obama is entitled to take sufficient time to decide what our long-term role ought to be in Afghanistan," he said on MSNBC. "I want him to take the time to get it right."

Cheney had also taken issue with statements out of the White House that the Obama administration had to start from scratch to develop a strategy for a conflict begun in 2001, the first year of the Bush presidency.

The Bush administration presented to Obama's transition team the review of the Afghanistan war that it undertook just before leaving office and was asked to keep it under wraps, Cheney said. A White House spokesman, Tommy Vietor, later disputed that characterization and said the report was not kept under wraps.

Meanwhile, Obama worked Thursday on a strategy to prevent fraud from occurring in Afghanistan in its runoff presidential election set for Nov. 7.

In an hourlong videoconference from the White House Situation Room, Obama and other top advisers heard a briefing and recommendations from the U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan, Karl Eikenberry. Gibbs would not specify what steps the U.S. is taking with Afghanistan's Independent Election Commission to avoid the problems that marred the original election on Aug. 20.

President Hamid Karzai faces his main challenger, ex-Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah, in the runoff.

Obama is not necessarily going to put off his decision on whether to send more troops to Afghanistan until after the run-off election, as some – including Democratic Sen. John Kerry – have strongly suggested he do.

"It could be before the runoff. It might be after the runoff," Gibbs said.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Thursday he will prod NATO allies this week for more economic and security aid to Afghanistan while trying to sidestep the debate over more troops.

NATO nations have supplied 36,000 troops, and NATO officials have signaled they won't ask their nations to send more until Obama makes a move.

Gates said there are enough other topics to discuss with NATO allies during a defense chiefs' gathering in Bratislava, Slovakia, this week.

NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the allies must do more to enable Afghan forces to eventually assume responsibility for security in their country.

NATO currently has 59 training teams working with the Afghan army. Alliance officials say they need the allies to come up with nine more to fulfill present plans that call for an expansion of the Afghan forces from the present 94,000 to 134,000. But if a future expansion plan boosting the Afghan army to 400,000 troops is approved, NATO will need a total of 103 training teams on the ground.

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Associated Press Writer Lara Jakes contributed to this report from Bratislava, Slovakia.

WASHINGTON — The White House on Thursday forcefully rejected criticism from former Vice President Dick Cheney and other Republicans that President Barack Obama's Afghanistan decision is taking t...
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Oh so NOW Cheney cares about Afghanistan. Finally....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 10/24/2009

Tovarich.
Can we help you with your decission ?

Boris

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 AM on 10/24/2009
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 130 fans permalink

I am surprised that Cheney was able to give his spiel without drivel falling down his chin. The poor man is out of his mind.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 10/23/2009
- lapdogs I'm a Fan of lapdogs 14 fans permalink
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How many of those "ANTI-DITHERERS" in that room have sons or grandsons that they will be more then happy to ship over to Afghanistan and do the fighting?

Amazing since all of these clowns in that room are CHICKENHAWKS, who did everything in their power to avoid serving in Vietnam!!

Cheney got so good at it, it evaded the draft four times!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 10/23/2009
- dhinds I'm a Fan of dhinds 25 fans permalink

The Bush/Cheney Administration's prime interest was never Afghanistan. After all, Afghanistan had no oil, so you reserved their decisiveness for Iraq, where there was real money to be made, at the expense of (and practically destroying) both nations (the USA and Iraq).

As for the Afghani warriors, they're in their own element. They were raised by fathers trained to kill invaders and it's only a matter of time until the USA leaves.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 PM on 10/23/2009
- lapdogs I'm a Fan of lapdogs 14 fans permalink
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Tall Mountains Made It IMPOSSIBLE to DRILL, BABY, DRILL. Thats why they made that U-Turn at Tora Bora.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 PM on 10/23/2009
- dhinds I'm a Fan of dhinds 25 fans permalink

Tall Mountains that the Afghani tribesmen are very familiar with. The cost of the economic and human resources wasted on the Iraq war destroyed the nation's financial reserves, broke the value of the dollar (excessive foreign debt will do that), poisoned the national moral character and divided the USA as never before (a situation that continues to this day).

The USA lacks both the resources and the authority to take the invasion and occupation much farther. (A war it's not. The American position is akin to that of the British during the Revolution, with non-uniformed native militias with hit and run tactics winning the day - and that was without IEDs and suicide bombers).

As for al Quada, they can disperse and regroup at will, anywhere. Why provide proof that that their fundamental argument - that a basic division exists and the USA has no respect for Islamic countries or the Islamic world.

The military approach can not win this war and sending more troops will only provide more targets and add fuel to the fire of hate and mistrust. It will demonstrate to the Arab and Islamic World who the enemy is.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 10/24/2009
- cloudmaker I'm a Fan of cloudmaker 56 fans permalink
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Let's keep one thing in mind: Cheney did not want to fight for his country. He did everything he could to avoid facing combat. But as Vice President he had no problem sending brave young men and women into battle, where many of them died doing the job, the hard, hard, horrible job he worked so hard to avoid.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 10/23/2009

Ex-Vice President DICK Chaney's comment on President Obama's "dithering" over his decisions on the Afghan war is a prime example of the chauvinism that has had its opportunity and proven its limitations and ultimate failure as a means and style of decision making. It should be evident, especially concerning such paramount decisions as those made in regard to war, to even an individual of such altruistic direction and compassion as Mr. Cheney, that with lives and people's future at stake a thorough, responsible decision is needed not a arbitrary multiple choice response to flex the ego and feign total insight.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 10/23/2009
- ramsha I'm a Fan of ramsha 15 fans permalink
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Cheney was not the brightest light even in his younger years as seen by his educational records. He could not cut the mustard in Ivy League institutions so he quit just after a few months. Then came the years of oxygen deprivation of his brain from his heart problems. Now the aging factor is catching up with him. Even if he was half as smart as he thinks he is, we still have to disregard his assertions. Grandpa should be given a toy BB gun and asked to play war games in a remote unpopulated wilderness

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 10/23/2009
- cloudmaker I'm a Fan of cloudmaker 56 fans permalink
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How fitting the Cheney should use the word dithering.
When what he is is preceded by blithering.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 10/23/2009
- bluesmann I'm a Fan of bluesmann 76 fans permalink
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Obama dragging his feet on AfghaniPak, but has time to pass a ha-te crime-s bill...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 10/23/2009
- bluesmann I'm a Fan of bluesmann 76 fans permalink
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Cheney is correct...Obama is afraid to make a decision in AfghaniPak...voting present is not an option..

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 10/23/2009
- swellsoire I'm a Fan of swellsoire 10 fans permalink

Cheney and Dubya "dithered" for over seven years on Afghanistan. They failed. Having either of those two pass judgment on the policies of this, or any administration is a joke.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 AM on 10/24/2009
- TLV I'm a Fan of TLV 114 fans permalink

I saw this at rawStory:
"A months-long review of documents and interviews with Pentagon personnel has revealed that the Bush Administration's military analyst program -- aimed at selling the Iraq war to the American people -- operated through a secretive collaboration between the Defense Department's press and community relations offices.

Raw Story has also uncovered evidence that directly ties the activities undertaken in the military analyst program to an official US military document’s definition of psychological operations -- propaganda that is only supposed to be directed toward foreign audiences."
........
"When the military analyst program was first revealed by The New York Times in 2008, retired US Army Col. Ken Allard described it as “PSYOPS on steroids.”

It turns out this was far from a casual reference. Raw Story has discovered new evidence that directly exposes this stealth media project and the activities of its participants as matching the US government’s own definition of psychological operations, or PSYOPS."

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 10/23/2009
- Willow207 I'm a Fan of Willow207 36 fans permalink
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You just found out? Color-codeed "terror Alerts" daily news feed......

Key words used repetedly in news stories and interviews­......mush­room clouds, yellow cake---the boogey man is coming!!!!!

Psychops have been used since the beginning of modern warfare in the US, it's origins were with the enemies in previous wars.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 10/23/2009

"Do what it takes to win" cries Dick Cheney ...after 8 years of dicking around by HIS administration and 6 years of screwing around in Iraq for NO reason....Lets see..IF we had stayed on top Afganistan and finished the job there instead of charching into Iraq on false claimes we would'nt still be debating about it huh?....Dick Cheney will You please just shut TF up and let the current President decide how to clean up YOUR MESS !!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 PM on 10/23/2009
- bluesmann I'm a Fan of bluesmann 76 fans permalink
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Hey randyw...do you think Obama will decide this year or next.??

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 10/23/2009
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What I find ironic here is that Obama EXTENDED Cheney's Secret Service detail due to death threats to Cheney.

And the thanks he gets? ..........­..........­......

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 10/23/2009
- mamacat I'm a Fan of mamacat 130 fans permalink

The Democratic Party gets more voters everytime Mr. Demento opens his mouth, and that is all the thanks they need.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 10/23/2009
- KriTiKiT I'm a Fan of KriTiKiT 30 fans permalink
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this man needs his hide tanned...

libby went to prison in his place

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 10/23/2009
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