Scientology Helps John Travolta Deal With Son's Death

people.com:

Meanwhile, Travolta's faith in Scientology has also given him strength. "John goes to Clearwater, Fla., [where Scientology has a center] four days a week," says a source. "He flies [the 15-minute distance] in his little plane every night, and it's helped him."

It is in the skies, perhaps, that the actor feels closest to Jett.

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Comments

[TiffanyHusseinBanned]

Rank and file Scientologists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPol_m8wm8Y&feature=related

Do they seem healthy?

[TiffanyHusseinBanned]

RaisingAwareness I'm a Fan of RaisingAwareness I'm a fan of this user 9 fans permalink
I'm a Scientologist and that's not what I believe.
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You are not rich enough to hear about X e nu. Did you that Tommy can move matter with his mind?

Tommy is an OT VII

[TiffanyHusseinBanned]

RaisingAwareness I'm a Fan of RaisingAwareness I'm a fan of this user 9 fans permalink Lisa McPherson's death was a tragedy but be assured that those around her did everything they could for her and didn't want her to die as you seem to assume. You have to realize that there were many doctors on-site who were trying to help her.
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Did you see the photographs? She was bitten by insects. She was refused medical treatment and she was severely malnourished.

You should be having a conversation with someone who doesn't know anything.

It was Introspection Rundown run amuck directly causing the d 3- th of a young woman. The worst part? They were following "The Tech."

[TequilaMockingbird]

Seriously and I am not being a Smart@zz Tiff.. But how do you know so much about the inner workings of Scientology?

You seem to be as passionate about exposing Scientology as I am about exposing Hard Core Evangelical doctrine..­. of course I was raised by the holiest of Rollers.. just wondered what your connection was to Scientology.

[TiffanyHusseinBanned]

You couldn't be a smart@ zz if you wanted to. I don't have a connection to Scientology. I actually read all about it on the Internets. Any ! d iot can do that.

If you had any intellectual curiousity, you would have wandered over to xenudotcom to read up as I suggested many, many posts ago.

Several other posters have also told you that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Here is the website about Lisa: http://www.lisamcpherson.org/lisa.htm That's where I learned she was k!llled.

When are you going to do your own research? Why do you keep posting about a subject you don't know anything about or have any interests in?

[QueenMaeve]

Not one among us can know what he's feeling, and if he uses scientology to cope, so be it. I think it's hogwash, but my opinion doesn't matter one iota. There are some overly self-righteous people who forget that whole "freedom of religion" thing.

[gnomic]

I love watching people get self rightous about someone elses made up religion.

[singermuse]

One of the tenets of my own personal spiritual practice is "live and let live". I don't know very much if anything about Scientology, so I do not feel qualified to either condone or condemn it. The little I see in the media, celebrities and such, there seems to be a decided lack of misogyny which is a good thing. Not so in other religions like fundamentalist (fill-in-the-blank) beliefs. Again, I can only speak to what I know. What makes/motivates a person to be kinder, more compassionate, less judgmental, inclusive, I'm all for it.

[TheBlackCat]

http://www.xenu.net/archive/personal_story/paulette_cooper/

This is the story of a reporter who years ago was doing a story on scientology about fabrications in L Ron Hubbard's history, and about the questionable results produced by Scientology's "e meter"

In response, the COS fabricated bomb threats made by the reporter, for which she was brought to trial though ultimately exonerated. They sent letters to every person in her apartment complex stating she was a prostitute. They sent death threats to her house. They tapped her phone. When she began therapy due to the stress caused to her by the Church's harassment, Church members broke into her therapists office, copied notes from her therapy sessions, and mailed them to her friends and family.

The FBI later raided a Scientology office in which they found documents detailing the Church's plans to frame the reporter with the hopes of either getting her put in jail or a mental institution. There were log books that were kept detailing surveilance on the reporter. At one point the harassment of the reporter was so bad that she was suicidal, which was notated in the Church's log along with a note "Wouldn't that be great for Scientology?"
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[RaisingAwareness]

There is at least 2 sides to every story. This link is from a critic of Scientology who still tells a different story.

http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/cooper_lawyer.htm

[Agentlady007]

on't know how a person can claim "closure" on death. Death is another state of being. It makes sense he is stable and then unstable regarding his loss. People who lose someone very close in their family understand his grief and this pain. I think part of recovery is to of course remain stable and rise above this emotion as fast as you can to almost a state of antagonism and then as quickly as possible get bored with trying to figure out the why's of what happended. Life has to go on. So many people get miserabe and they let their own life suffer, and that isn't very responsible is it? I would try not to go into any form of instability. It would make me angry to think one court session is going to cure the pain of losing someone you love. I would say it's going to take some time before John feels enthusiastic about anything for quite some time. That's normal. ---It's not fair, but it's normal.

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/22/scientology-helps-john-tr_n_330519.html

[Agentlady007]

I don't know how a person can claim "closure" on death. Death is another state of being. It makes sense he is stable and then unstable regarding his loss. People who lose someone very close in their family understand his grief and this pain. I think part of recovery it to of course remain stable and rise above this emotion as fast as you can to almost a state of antagonism and then as quickly as possible get bored with trying to figure out the why's of what happended. Life has to go on. So many people get miserabe and they let their own life suffer, and that isn't very responsible is it? I would try not to go into any form of instability. It would make me angry to think one court session is going to cure the pain of losing someone you love. I would say it's going to take some time befoe John feels enthusiastic about anything for quite some time. That's normal. It's not fair, but it's normal.

[topkatnc]

Is it true that the people of scientology beleive in an alien and that , that alien started the religion ?

[Agentlady007]

No, you read too many science fiction novels.

[Yepperday]

Oh yes they do. The alien is not the prophet, however. He blew up lots of other aliens in volcanos and now your body is covered with their souls, like flies on fly paper. Auditing is the only way to free you of them.

Goodle "xenu" and find out for yourself.

[topkatnc]

I only read non-fiction thank you...

[TheBlackCat]

yes they do, here is a copy of a handwritten note from L Ron Hubbard

http://www.xenu.net/archive/OTIII-scholar/

"The head of the Galactic
Confederation (76 planets around
larger stars visible from here)
(founded 95,000,000 yrs ago, very space opera)
solved overpopulation (250 billion
or so per planet) -- 178 billion
average) by mass implanting.
He caused people to be brought to
Teegeeack (Earth) and put an H Bomb
on the principal volcanoes (Incident 2)
and then the Pacific area ones
were taken in boxes to Hawaii
and the Atlantic Area ones to
Las Palmas and there "packaged.­"
His name was Xenu. He used
renegades. Various misleading
data by means of circuits etc.
were placed in the implants.
When through with his crime Loyal Officers
(to the people) captured him
after 6 years of battle
and put him in an electronic
mountain trap where he still
is. "They" are gone. The place (Confed.)
has since been a desert."

we know that this letter was really written by L Ron Hubbard because the lawfirm Moxon & Kobrin has filed multiple lawsuits trying to get these documents removed NOT on the grounds that they are fabricated by that they are copywritten works that are owned by the church which Operation Clambake does not have the right to publish. They had to authenticate the writings as Church of Scientology writings in order to push forward these lawsuits.

[topkatnc]

Wow...and this is what Travolta and Cruise believe in...wow..­.

[coastalcarla]

I can't even imagine losing my only son. I hope for the best for the whole family. Whatever it takes to get them through this, everyone should just let them be. If they've found a way to cope through Scientology, then more power to them. This must be excruciating.

[GolfingDevil05]

Seconded.

[MNmommy]

I have such a hard time understanding how anyone could take comfort from something that indirectly was responsible for the demise of my child.

I just couldn't.

The only answer for me is that these people are flat-out brainwashed.

[punkindmb]

fanned

[ColoradoDan]

It is beyond ironic and also very sad.

Thankfully, Travolta has wads of cash to buy salvation from the generous Church he still supports.

At $500 an hour, they will take good care of any guilt.

[RaisingAwareness]

You really believe John Travolta wanted to kill his son don't you?

[topkatnc]

I feel the same way....I don't know how they sleep at night....I would go and do anything for my child.

[RaisingAwareness]

Scientologists use medicines just like anyone else. You're probably confusing them with another religion. They just don't take psychiatric drugs for thing such as depression or ADHD because they don't have to. They have non-drug techniques that work much better for those types of problems. I know first hand that this is the case because I've used them and have also helped others with these priceless techniques. Jett was on anti-seizure meds as I'm sure you are well aware as it was widely reported. The doctor took him off when they realized that the pills were causing him liver failure plus the fact that they stopped working.

[LovingHope]

If it helps him deal with his pain, who cares what he practices. Don't we have freedom of religion in this country? It gets really old listening to all the judgmental people criticizing these people because of their believes. John Travolta, Tom Cruise, and Will Smith are very classy, talented actors. I have a lot of respect for all three of them. I don't see anything wrong in what they do. They believe in something that gives them balance. More power to them.

[KIVPossum]

It seems people are more focused on bashing Scientology than thinking about the person. If quackery religion helps, so be it.

[Agentlady007]

That's right bash someone elses belief, it says so much about your own morals.

[coastalcarla]

Yes - and you don't see any of them showing up blasted at publicity events, or being arrested for DUI and checking into rehab like so many other stars, either. So whatever they're doing, it's working for them. So many judgemental people around. Let them be.

[rzan1]

I will say, whatever his religion, John Travolta has always seemed like a very decent human being.

[letthemdrinkkoolaid]

Scientology is a load of SH*T.

[Tom43528]

As is Christianity, Judaism, Islam, et al.

[TiffanyHusseinBanned]

More S ci etology tr--olls.

[coastalcarla]

Yeah, well so is every other organized religion on the planet. What of it?

[The Fanatic]

Same s.h..it. different can. Religion is about power and money and it corrupts people. It's a scourge on society. The details are irrelevent.

[ellenst]

With or without religion, he has to go through the normal grieving process like everyone who has lost a loved one.

[The Fanatic]

True and as a mom I can only imagine the horror. However, had he put his son first, before a loony religion, he may be alive today.

You may think it harsh to say, but it's the truth. Religions that require us to submit to them are dangerous. He may not even be grieving right now if he were a secularist.

[TequilaMockingbird]

Factotem.. I read the article..

They sound as terrible and dangerous as the Religious Right does.. Thanks a lot.. I was content only worrying about the Evangelicals but now it seems I have lunatic multi level religious marketeers to worry about too...

Just when I had gotten over my Amway nightmares­....