Windows 7 Upgrade: Microsoft Prays For Fresh Start After Vista Debacle

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JESSICA MINTZ | 10/22/09 03:31 PM | AP

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SEATTLE — Microsoft Corp. finally got its chance to reboot its reputation Thursday, launching a new edition of Windows that it hopes will encourage more PC buyers to get back into stores.

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer celebrated the arrival of Windows 7 in New York with a few hundred people who had helped test early versions of the software that runs PCs. One of them, technology consultant, Jonathan Kay, flew from Toronto to attend.

"Windows 7 will redeem Windows," said Kay, 27.

Some retailers had opened at midnight to give customers an early shot at buying a new PC or a disc that they could use to put Windows 7 on their existing computers. Such upgrade discs start at $120.

Among the stores was a Fry's Electronics in Renton, Wash., several miles south of Microsoft's headquarters in Redmond. Mike Naramor, 55, who runs a consulting business called My Computer Guy, was one of about 50 people who were waiting outside when Fry's opened.

"We're geeks, that's what geeks do," he said. "This is our excitement."

Naramor, who also had bought copies of the last two operating systems, XP and Vista, the nights they were released, planned to go home and install Windows 7 right away.

"Vista took me about 72 hours," he said. "I expect this to take me 20 minutes."

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Microsoft is also going to try running its own retail stores, which has been enormously successful for Apple Inc. Hundreds of people lined up Thursday to attend the opening of the first store, in Scottsdale, Ariz., where Microsoft was giving away gift certificates and other goodies.

People cheered as a giant white curtain dropped from the front of the store, revealing an airy space lined with large screens showing scenes from video games. Dozens of employees jumped and high-fived customers as they ran in the store.

Kaelin Jacobson, a 20-year-old Web programmer, said he came to give Microsoft "one last shot," adding that he's had a lot of problems with Vista. Jacobson, who was carrying an Apple laptop, said he has to use Windows for his job and that Microsoft could find it hard to match Apple's sleek and popular stores.

Microsoft hopes people like Windows 7 much more than Vista, which was slow and didn't work well with existing programs and devices. Microsoft fixed many of Vista's flaws, but it was too late to repair perceptions. Many businesses avoided Vista altogether, preferring to keep using Windows XP, an operating system that is now 8 years old.

Windows 7 promises to boot up faster and reduce the clicks needed to get common tasks done. Microsoft has cut some redundant ways to start programs and added flourishes that can help users keep track of their open windows. It promises to put computers into sleep mode and wake them faster, too.

Windows 7 is also meant to be "quieter" – with fewer pop-up boxes, notifications, warnings and "are you sure ..." messages. Instead, many of those messages get stashed in a single place for the user to address when it's convenient.

While the recession has led businesses to delay spending on PCs and other technologies, computer makers have said they expect that to begin to change in 2010. However, in a recent interview, Microsoft's Ballmer acknowledged that companies figure to remain careful. Information-technology budgets, he said, "aren't going to rise just because we shipped a new (operating system)."

With consumers, it may be the same story.

To coincide with the Windows 7 launch, computer makers and retailers such as Best Buy Inc. are cutting prices for PCs to try to goose holiday-season sales. But analysts at Gartner Inc. aren't expecting to see a spike in consumer sales. Last year was the worst in about six years for the PC industry, and global computer shipments declined through the first half of this year.

At a Best Buy in downtown New York on Thursday, Zhui Lin, a 23-year-old chef, was shopping for a new computer – but only because his old Windows XP machine had been stolen. Lin said he wasn't even aware Windows 7 had gone on sale.

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AP Technology Writer Barbara Ortutay in New York, Associated Press Writer Amanda Lee Myers in Scottsdale, Ariz., and AP Photographer Ted S. Warren in Renton, Wash., contributed to this report.

SEATTLE — Microsoft Corp. finally got its chance to reboot its reputation Thursday, launching a new edition of Windows that it hopes will encourage more PC buyers to get back into stores. Micro...
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Larf, larf, larf!

You guys have GOT to check this out.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c20_1256406975

Maybe the uncanny congruence between the word microsoft and the dual concept of miniature flaccidity WAS a freudian slip on the part of Bill Gates back in the day.

Seriously... I nearly wet myself. Thanks to Steve Jobs for over 20 years of problem-free [nearly] computing.

:-)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 10/25/2009
- oldngrumpy I'm a Fan of oldngrumpy 251 fans permalink
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I am currently using Win7 beta and I love it. I have a network of 5 systems with 3 different operating systems (Red Hat, XP, Win7) and Win7 is my "go to" system. I like it's memory management and the ability to use a memory stick as RAM. No problems with drivers so far and it is much more secure with warnings when changes are asked for by an application. Boot up is much faster than XP, even in a dual boot system.

I strongly advise doing a clean install if you switch from XP. You won't be happy with the results of an "upgrade". You should, by now, have your data on a separate partition or drive anyway. If not, this is an opportunity to correct that. Invest in a bigger drive and dual boot for a while until you know everything you need is compatible.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 10/23/2009
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Those of us who were forced to endure Vista and couldn't "downgrade" to XP ought to get a copy of Windows 7 for free or for an expectedly discounted price!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 AM on 10/23/2009
- Babzter I'm a Fan of Babzter 23 fans permalink
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Got tired of being a Microsoft beta tester. Switched to Mac. Happy now.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 10/23/2009
- AbeMartin I'm a Fan of AbeMartin 8 fans permalink
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I have been running Windows XP on my old machine for years. I recently decided to download the "upgrades," and my machine crashed (choking to machine death, probably) and necessitating a restore sequence. I will run the existing system until long after MS stops "improving" and "supporting" it.

I believe that nearly everything MS does anymore is designed to maintain what is left of its former strangle hold on the great majority of home and laptop computers. It has been years (decades?) since any of MS OS improvements have actually improved anything except the sales of Dell, HP, Sony, etc., who wait eagerly while Vista or 7 or Nincompoop clog the memories of the previously useful machines with an additional 20 zillion lines of glurg. Maybe it is time for Gates, Ballmer and some of the other big brains to descend from the heights of Olympus and get back to work.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 10/23/2009
- KarateKid I'm a Fan of KarateKid 314 fans permalink
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Although I've never had a problem with Vista, it doesn't fill me with warmth when it is described as a debacle.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:29 AM on 10/23/2009
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There never has been a truly clean "upgrade" option, hence the reason so many people have problems.
Even without upgrades I format and reinstall all my machines at least once a year. It's the only way to truly clean the registry and a fast Windows box.

As for switching to W7, I've learned to wait for Service Pack 2 before buying any OS from MS.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 AM on 10/23/2009

Looks like many people here aren't as happy with it as most of the people on nerd-related blogs. I've been using the RC for Windows 7 since June and I like it a good bit. I have completely stopped using XP and Ubuntu. It is better than Vista by leaps and bounds. I used Vista the 6 months before and after it came out and truly loathed it, like most people. But 7 is really a lot better. No giant memory leaks; no bloated background applications or UI effects and I have only ran into a handful of software compatibility issues. I've set it up on about half a dozen different computers so far and haven't ran into a single hardware problem yet.

As someone who despised their last OS, I really find Win7 as a well made atonement for Vista

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 AM on 10/23/2009

People who cried about how bad Windows Vista was need to get their heads examined.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 AM on 10/23/2009
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10littlein­dians.....­. If you've had a problem with Vista you get to cry!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 10/23/2009
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Not even interested. MS's track record is release junk over and over and keep charging people for junk that gets worse and worse, each time claiming that it's better.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 AM on 10/23/2009
- KIVPossum I'm a Fan of KIVPossum 49 fans permalink
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120$ for a upgrade disc? It'll be on sale at the bazaar for 7$ in a week.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 AM on 10/23/2009
- newyorkid I'm a Fan of newyorkid 40 fans permalink
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free yourself from the M$ monopoly gridlock. Use any distro of LINUX that fits your needs. I use Ubuntu and it is great software. No viruses and always fast OS. All for FREE as in BEER.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 AM on 10/23/2009
- krypton86 I'm a Fan of krypton86 12 fans permalink

I use OSX, but Ubuntu is really great. Right on newyorkid!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 AM on 10/23/2009
- newyorkid I'm a Fan of newyorkid 40 fans permalink
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Sure. OSX is also a UNIX like based OS. X stands fo UNIX.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 AM on 10/23/2009
- wernerholm I'm a Fan of wernerholm 7 fans permalink

Linux Rocks! I am a former Mircosoftie, I made the switch about a month ago and boy am I happy! I am not very tech savvy so I was afraid of making the switch at first. Boy what a difference! No annoying pop ups reminding me to constantly install "updates", no freezing, no bugs, no problems!

Why would ANYONE do business with microsoft when such a wonderful, problem free, operating system exists......and it's FREE!!!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 AM on 10/23/2009
- f0rTyLeGz I'm a Fan of f0rTyLeGz 4 fans permalink
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I was on a PC since the 8088 days, and I bought a Vaio with Vista on it and sent it back the day after it arrived. I went and bought a MacBook. It's great. Just the no virus bs is worth the change.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 10/23/2009
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This is the very reason why I haven't and won't buy a Mac. The user culture around it is the very definition of pompous, hateful and arrogant. The simple truth is I'm not going to pay Apple $2000 for the same performance I get out of my $900 PC. In fact, my $900 PC handily beats the highest end iMac in pure, raw power and capability. And the last PC I had lasted 5 years before I finally retired it and built a new one. Never had a problem with it, nor Windows.

Furthermore, Vista ran flawlessly for me. Every application I use for work never had an issue. Every piece of hardware I plugged in worked "right out of the box." And every game I wanted to play, including the 12 year old Final Fantasy VII, ran without a hitch. And now Windows 7 runs even faster and cleaner on my machine than Vista. Haven't had a virus in 10 years, nor have I seen a BSOD since Windows XP's pre-SP1 days. Hell, Vista never even crashed on me. Not once. Nor has Windows 7 beta or the retail version.

Maybe I just know what I'm doing. Apple can keep its overpriced gimmicks.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 10/23/2009
- wernerholm I'm a Fan of wernerholm 7 fans permalink

Get a PC and install Linux.....­..........­...... much cheaper than apple, and problem free.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 AM on 10/23/2009
- AtheistUS I'm a Fan of AtheistUS 65 fans permalink
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There is no single operating system that is best by all measures and for all purposes.

People who are so confident that claim otherwise are just missing one or a few or - most often - many issues.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 10/23/2009
- newyorkid I'm a Fan of newyorkid 40 fans permalink
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"Haven't had a virus in 10 years" ... Well, that is impossible with M$ windows. Probably you did not realized you had viruses. Besides, Windows IS itself a virus spying for the NSA.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 AM on 10/23/2009
- Babzter I'm a Fan of Babzter 23 fans permalink
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Just wait.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 10/23/2009
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