iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

Crist, Obama Hug Haunting Florida Governor In Senate Primary

BRENDAN FARRINGTON   10/25/09 08:32 AM ET   AP

Crist

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Republican Gov. Charlie Crist probably wasn't worried that literally embracing President Barack Obama back in February and strongly supporting the $787 billion federal stimulus package would hurt his U.S. Senate campaign.

Sure, the hardcore party base wasn't happy, but the appearance was an opportunity to win over Democrats, independents and moderate Republicans who voted for Obama. The president's approval ratings were high, and any Republican thinking about running for an open seat in 2010 stopped thinking about it when Crist signaled interest.

All except former House Speaker Marco Rubio. Political insiders said it wasn't logical to challenge an incumbent governor who had high approval ratings and could raise gobs of money. However, Rubio said it didn't make sense for the highest-profile Republican in Florida to embrace a Democratic president and a plan that would raise the federal deficit.

Now Rubio is gaining momentum as he reminds Republican voters of Crist's hug. And the same political insiders who downplayed Rubio are starting to think the unthinkable: Crist's campaign might be threatened by another Republican.

"I just knew that if we were true to ourselves and what we stand for, and we went out and told enough people about it, that we would begin to make progress and that's what's happening," Rubio said.

Rubio has swept 12 straw polls held by county Republican committees by enormous percentages. He nearly tripled his fundraising last quarter, topping the $1 million mark to provide a financial and psychological boost to his campaign. Conservative radio talk show hosts adore him, as well as party activists. He's been praised by conservative columnist George Will and endorsed by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Sens. James Inhofe, R-Okla., and Jim DeMint, R-S.C..

In two months, Crist's lead over Rubio in a Quinnipiac University poll shrunk from 29 percentage points to 15 points. Although it still doesn't mean Crist is in trouble.

"There's nothing to celebrate," Rubio said. "The truth is we're still behind. The only good news is we're not behind by as much as we used to be."

Rubio's rise is probably about to get more difficult as Crist pays more attention to him and to the race itself.

"Charlie really hasn't done much campaigning other than the fundraising, and Marco's been out there beating the bushes for it. I think that's why you're seeing this in the poll numbers. I don't see this as a great rejection of our governor," said Jamie Miller, a Florida-based Republican strategist.

A large part of that opportunity is pointing out the Crist appearance with Obama.

"I was horrified," Rubio said, adding that Crist canceled lunch at the governor's mansion with former Gov. Jeb Bush and other former governors to be with Obama. "This was more than just a courtesy greeting, this was an embrace and a support of $800 billion of deficit spending."

Crist says he has no regrets about appearing with Obama.

"I was happy and delighted to do so. I'm a civil guy. The president of the United States is the president of the United States," Crist said. "Especially when it's the first visit to Florida and I'm invited to be there. I have that kind of respect in my soul."

Rubio is positioning himself as the true conservative in the race, and he's winning over those paying attention. He's a gifted speaker who excites Republicans not just with delivery, but the substance of his remarks.

"He's more than articulate, he actually believes it. He is a Ronald Reagan/Jack Kemp Republican, the kind that understands why our values are good for every American regardless of where they are on the socio-economic scale," said Sid Dinerstein, chairman of the Palm Beach County Republican Party. "He just totally gets it. It's in his core."

Crist, on the other hand, has incredible political skills, but he's more about "poll-tested sound bites," Dinerstein said.

"He doesn't have the core beliefs," Dinerstein said. "That's not who he is."

While Rubio is talking in detail about federal spending and health care reform, Crist is boiling the issues down by describing them as "cockamamie" and "crazy."

But Crist does have lots of money, about $6 million in the bank compared with about $1 million for Rubio. Crist also has name recognition and the network built through four statewide campaigns, the last three of which he's won comfortably.

"That is just a huge plus," said David Winston, a Washington-based Republican pollster. "Rubio's clearly quite talented. Crist is a proven winner."

And Crist isn't going to let Rubio have the spotlight to himself for long. The governor has already begun running two radio ads attempting to distance himself from Obama by criticizing the president for trying to spend his way to prosperity, ignoring his own support of the stimulus package.

"I haven't devoted a lot of time to day-to-day campaigning and doing campaign speeches," Crist said. "As each day passes and we get closer to election day, we will continue to ratchet up. We have not begun to fight, but now we do."

FOLLOW HUFFPOST POLITICS

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Republican Gov. Charlie Crist probably wasn't worried that literally embracing President Barack Obama back in February and strongly supporting the $787 billion federal stimul...
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Republican Gov. Charlie Crist probably wasn't worried that literally embracing President Barack Obama back in February and strongly supporting the $787 billion federal stimul...
Filed by Rachel Weiner  | 
 
 
  • Comments
  • 604
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (10 total)
07:03 PM on 10/26/2009
well it is halloween
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Tim303
02:03 PM on 10/26/2009
Divide and conquer.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Bruce H Majors
Libertarian for Congress
11:26 AM on 10/26/2009
So is this an inter-racial affair since Barry is a Kenyan and Charlie is an orange?
11:09 AM on 10/26/2009
This is going to be the race that the Republicans and Democrats lose. The stranglehold that the 2 party system has on this country will end. I will make sure of it.
Alexander Snitker
Candidate for US Senate
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
JeanRR
07:45 AM on 10/26/2009
Of course Florida could never have a Rethug senator who is friendly to our President. It would rfeek of bi-partisanship.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Bruce H Majors
Libertarian for Congress
11:28 AM on 10/26/2009
Bi-partisanship just means both wings of the tax predator ruling class are cooperating to bleed you
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ObamAtomic
05:18 AM on 10/26/2009
Rubio is good for the time a film last,after that ,time for reality.
photo
HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
Beachchick
Dignity is not negotiable
04:09 AM on 10/26/2009
Rubio makes the Puritans look appealing. The GOP is dreaming if it thinks he can win anything.
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
msgirlintn
Magnolia's mom!
03:33 AM on 10/26/2009
What does it tell you about the Republican party when they are hanging over his head that he gave Obama a hug and accepted the Stimulus Money. Do they really hate Obama more than money for the states that the states really need. I think it is all very petty and ridiculous.

Didnt Rubio get into a bit of hot water over something he said? I think I heard it when Carlos Watson was on msnbc. Carlos loved having Republicans on his show. Don't know if that was why he was cancelled.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Bruce H Majors
Libertarian for Congress
11:28 AM on 10/26/2009
Yea. Everyone knows you are supposed to spread your legs for money
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
msgirlintn
Magnolia's mom!
11:44 PM on 10/26/2009
You're just a ray of sunshine. What you describe is illegal. What Crist did was looking out for Fl, which Obama carried by the way.
03:19 AM on 10/26/2009
Isnt christ that one gay guy who got married to some woman he barely knew so people didnt think he was so gay?

yeah, that doesnt really work anymore...I mean he had a subscription to Instyle and Glamour 10 years prior to marrying the woman....if that isnt a sign...

Ok thats a lie, but he probably did...I mean just look at him. What I wouldnt give to look up his google search history...
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
04:19 AM on 10/26/2009
Don't know what difference any of that will mean in an election, esp since this has been common knowledge for awhile.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Bruce H Majors
Libertarian for Congress
11:29 AM on 10/26/2009
Do you think he and Barry did it? Who was the top?
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ChinaC
02:28 AM on 10/26/2009
The election is between a Republican and a conservative. My family is voting for Rubio the conservative.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ObamAtomic
05:14 AM on 10/26/2009
Rubio a conservative?
What he had done?
What,when he know,knew to be one?
Lowered taxes?
Interned for Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen.
Rubio is too inexperienced to be an effective politician,he is on the same league
as the guy appointed for Chris to warm the Senate seat for him.
Lastly, Rubio is a local politician ,known and applauded on Miami and surround areas.
Ask Rubio what he was doing,saying while Bush was spending and shredding
the Constitution?
Congratulation to your family!
02:26 AM on 10/26/2009
In the Old Days, guys like Charlie Crist were known as 'Horticultural Lads."
01:31 AM on 10/26/2009
Charlie Crist deserves to lose not because he hugged Obama but because there is plenty of evidence that he's a closeted gay man and he has a record of being anti-gay. He's a total opportunist as I'm sure his new wife knows by now. Another cynical politician who believes his actions don't have to match up to his public postering.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Bruce H Majors
Libertarian for Congress
11:31 AM on 10/26/2009
It's not deliberate. Studies have shown that overdoses of QT cause degeneration of the nervous system
12:43 AM on 10/26/2009
As long as the Republican's chief stock in trade is fear mongering using guilt by association, none of them will get nominated anything if they even smile once near any Democrat during the Obama years.

Got any teabags to send them?
11:26 PM on 10/25/2009
The elections coming up will not be kind to RINO's and Obama supporters. Crist messed up huge siding with Obama. Obama supporters Pelosi and Reid each only have 34% approval ratings in their respective states. America is rejecting liberalism.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
mummblemouth
Liberals: the only true fiscal conservatives.
01:38 AM on 10/26/2009
Gong,
02:27 AM on 10/26/2009
I second that gong, and raise you a raspberry!
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Bruce H Majors
Libertarian for Congress
11:32 AM on 10/26/2009
Do you think most of the tax predators will be exiled or guillotined? Will it happen before or after the food riots and the dollar's collapse?
photo
HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
Gronkie
Radical Independent
11:07 PM on 10/25/2009
Crist's biggest mistake was when he decided to play to the party line and endorse a massive tax cut. In Florida, every homeowner was able to deduct $25,000 of value off of their house before paying property taxes on the remainder - it's called the Homestead Exemption. Crist pushed to double the expemption to $50,000. Every thinking person knew that it meant significantly less taxes for a state that already doesn't have a state income tax. It passed handliy, and the state had a $3 billion shortfall. There was a mad scramble to reduce and cut budget items, and many state workers had their jobs eliminated and the citizens had their services seriously reduced. Then the economy tanked and tourism was severely curtailed, one of the major sources of income and taxes in this state. In addition, NASA has suffered badly under the Crist administration, and they failed to keep the shuttle program running, which means a loss of high paying (and highly taxable) jobs and a brain-drain as the NASA engineers and workers go to high-tech jobs in other states.

All in all, Charlie Crist has proven to be a typical Republican politician. Lots of talk, little action, and the state is worse off after his administration. Rubio sounds worse. Maybe Alan Grayson can be persuaded to jump in for the Democrats.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
OneEarthling
my micro-bio is a nano-bio
11:38 PM on 10/25/2009
The state of Florida doesn't collect property taxes, the county, city, schools and special districts do. The taxes collected at the local level are pretty much the same as last year as the millage rates are set to raise the revenue necessary to meet their budgets. NASA is federal money, high paying jobs don't raise state revenues as there is no income tax. The state relies on sales tax and a gazillion other taxes and fees. It's truly a flocked up state in their revenue structure.

The Dems already have a candidate in Rep. Kendrick Meeks
photo
HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
Gronkie
Radical Independent
12:31 AM on 10/26/2009
You make some good points, I only have so many words to get my point across. The taxes may be the same as last year, but I believe last year was the first year they had to deal with this issue. When I say the state had a shortfall, I meant increasing the Homestead Exemption meant there was a significant drop in revenues throughout the state, although at the county level, which is where property taxes are collected. There was still a state-wide crisis in funding. The NASA workers will certainly mean less money for the state, even if it isn't in state income taxes. They won't be paying sales taxes, county taxes, etc. NASA may be federal money, but the state, being run by Republicans, could have made a decent pitch to the Republican adminsitration who decided to gut NASA. The loss of NASA jobs will mean a disaster for the Space Coast, which is a major money-maker for Florida in many ways. And losing all of those smart people in Florida is a tragedy as well. We count on them to offset the redneck factor.

Actually, a significant portion of the moeny that this state brings in comes in the form of hotel taxes paid by tourists. It allows us to enjoy immunity from state income taxes.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
12:33 AM on 10/26/2009
One Earthling:

Do you live in Florida? I do and the additional homestead exemption has certainly had a negative impact on my county's revenues. I voted against the change but it passed with no problem.

Less money from this additional exemption plus due to falling home values has caused cities and counties to cut jobs and services to balance their budgets. Increasing millage rates are not taking care of this.

That being said, Fla's revenue structure sure is flocked up. :P