Christina Romer: Public Plan Can Reduce Costs, No Evidence Yet On Triggers

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First Posted: 10-26-09 01:05 PM   |   Updated: 10-26-09 03:26 PM

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One of President Obama's senior advisers argued on Monday that a national public plan would have a noticeable impact on lowering the costs of the health care system yet the evidence wasn't yet available to claim that a trigger-proposal would do the same.

Dr. Christina Romer, Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers, said that she had "personally been quite persuaded that the public option can be an important source of cost growth containment," during a speech at the Center for American Progress.

Romer cited a case study of counties in California where the introduction of a government-run plan helped bring down overall costs in the private market.

"One of the things I've learned is that if you look at the state of California for example, where people on Medicaid have a lot of the counties what they do is to contract with HMO to provide care to Medicaid patients," said Romer, in response to a question posed by Adele M. Stan,
Washington Bureau Chief of the site, AlterNet. "And there are a lot of what we call two-plan counties where there are two plans in each counties. And in some counties there are two private plans and in some counties you have one private plan and one publicly run plan. And the interesting thing is that cost growth in the counties with a public and a private is indeed slower than in counties with two privately run plans. It is a small sample... that is one of the things that is giving me a sense that it could be something that could genuinely slow the growth rate of costs."

The remarks reflect a consistent refrain from the administration that a public-run insurance option is an effective vehicle for lowering costs within the health care system while expanding coverage to those who are uninsured. Coming amidst reports that the president is working with Sen. Olympia Snowe, (R-ME) to implement a public plan that was triggered into existence by economic conditions, however, the statement could have political ripples. Romer would not make the same predictions of cost-containment when asked about the trigger, saying that there was insufficient data as to how it would work.

"As I said, the evidence even on public and private,I think, isn't all there still. It is something where we are still collecting evidence. Knowing what a trigger will do is, I think, beyond anything that we have a lot of evidence on. The other thing is I don't want to get out ahead of the legislative process.... other than saying this is something we are working through, Congress is working through, and we will see how it comes out."

In an effort to sell a more progressive reform package, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Cali.) has repeatedly cited Congressional Budget Office data that shows the public plan could save more than $100 billion in the health care system. That figure is reduced by $85 billion when legislation requires that the Department of Health and Human Services negotiate rates with providers -- a proposal favored by conservative Democrats in the House.

In addition to praising the public plan's ability to reduce costs, Romer also endorsed the proposal in her prepared remarks.

Another institutional structure that the president has emphasized as a potentially important source of cost containment is the inclusion of a public health insurance option in the exchange. Such an option would give individuals and small businesses the choice of a publicly-managed health insurance plan that competes on a level playing field with private insurers. Reports by the U.S. Government Accountability Office show that markets for health insurance are often highly concentrated, especially in rural states, giving insurers a high degree of market power and the ability to raise premiums. A public health insurance option would be a credible entrant in concentrated markets, and would serve as a competitive, alternative choice, constraining the ability of insurers to raise premiums, and thus containing the growth rate of.


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Here's an update, taken from an article on Michael Moore's blog (love him or hate him, you have to respect his passion... in my opinion, he's a great American, regardless of whether or not you agree with his positions).

Anyway, this is an update to the single payer HR676 "Medicare for all" house vote. Numerous people have been saying they'd like to see it CBO scored, and that is about to happen.

"Rep. Weiner was on a conference call just last night with the activists of the Progressive Democrats of America. He said that his amendment is currently being “scored” by the Congressional Budget Office.

The score assigned will measure the amendment’s impact on the federal budget. The results of that score will be out sometime soon. Then it will be up to Speaker Nancy Pelosi to honor her commitment to Rep. Weiner to bring his substitute amendment to full debate on the floor of the House when H.R. 3200 is under consideration.

Rep. Weiner says that will be happening sometime in the next few weeks – maybe as early as the first week in November. He also said more Congressional members are learning more about the economic and moral benefits of his amendment. We need to support that work."

Weiner is truly rocking my world on this issue. We have a champion in him, and he's working the system brilliantly. My prayers go out to him, and for us all!!

peace.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 AM on 11/02/2009
- Tiger99 I'm a Fan of Tiger99 18 fans permalink
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A Bad Public Option Doesn't Deserve Our Support... 11% savings is not signifacant...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 10/27/2009
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HR676 is coming to the house AND senate floors (Sanders introduced a similar bill in the senate) for a vote THIS WEEK!!!

Make some noise!! Call!! Click the link below. Put your info in, and it sets up the call to your Rep or Senators for you! Provided by Healthcare-NOW!

http://tools.advomatic.com/35/hc-n/

Pass that along in email to everyone you know!! Put it on your Facebook page, Twitter it, go viral!!

Call all the friends you send it to. Encourage them. If they don't know about HR676, point them here:

http://www.johnconyers.com/hr676text

The legislation really is that stupidly simple and cost effective. It just works.

Stuck for words? Try this in your emails and posts:

Please support HR676, which saves hundreds of billions of $$, covers ALL Americans, and eliminates:

- Bankruptcy due to medical expense
- Denied coverage due to "pre-existing" conditions
- Loss of coverage due to rescission, or job loss

It will cost each of us less money, put more into our pockets, provide more care, more choice, and leave more funds available for the things that matter, like roads, schools, and lower deficits!

The vote is this week. Call your representative and senators. Tell them you want their support for single-payer, HR676!

Yes We Can!!

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The single payer vote is THIS WEEK. It's up to us to decide the result.

"Nothing can stand in the way of millions of voices calling for change."

We are millions.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:03 AM on 10/27/2009
- Libby48 I'm a Fan of Libby48 20 fans permalink
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Great call Ms. Romer.....­California is bankrupt!! Please show some more of your credibility!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 10/26/2009
- Tim303 I'm a Fan of Tim303 87 fans permalink
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....because the Governator said "Hasta la vista to the car tax, baby!" and the guy who would become McCain's campaign manager had a huge wrecking ball smash a car...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 10/27/2009
- stevebest I'm a Fan of stevebest 14 fans permalink

they elected a republican gov. they deserve to be bancrupt

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 PM on 10/28/2009

Of course! Don't we live in a society where competition is the way to keep price low? It's the monopoly that kill the affordable health care and that was why we need a real competition in the first place.After we use taxpayers' money to bail out the banks, the corporates, we can't argue that health care can't be paid by taxpayers's money. If we can't accept to let the big corporates die then how do we accept hundred of million people don't have insurance and have to go bankrupt when they fall ill?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 10/26/2009
- saltysea I'm a Fan of saltysea 4 fans permalink

kudos.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 10/26/2009
- Philclock I'm a Fan of Philclock 37 fans permalink
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Ms. Rohmer has "personally been quite persuaded that the public option can be an important source of cost growth containment."

Any doubts about the "public option" are now gone.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 10/26/2009
- JePense I'm a Fan of JePense 14 fans permalink

I pay $13K annual premiums plus $5K deductible plus 30% coinsurance.

Let me buy into Medicare early for $10K. I save money. Medicare gets cash infusion from me and others in my age and income bracket who do the same.

Private insurer wants me back, starts offering competitive plan: reducing deductibles, premiums, adding benefits, counting a couple as a family for deductible purposes.

Costs just start plummeting as competition soars.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 10/26/2009
- Chris I'm a Fan of Chris 12 fans permalink

I noticed Ms Romer fialed to site the Pulbic option in Maine that had to be capped at 10k members because costs are so high. Oh yeah the rates in Maine continue to climb.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 10/26/2009

That's an interesting point. I don't know the specifics of Maine but the very act of limiting the size of an insurance plan _guarantees_ that the cost of the plan will grow higher. Being small, the plan has little negotiating leverage with hospitals and docs for low rates. In fact, hospitals and docs will tend to shift the cost of the low rates they pay the biggest insurers to the rates they give smaller insurers.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 10/26/2009
- Chris I'm a Fan of Chris 12 fans permalink

How can an option that is open to only 10% of the population, per Obama and the CBO, redcue costs when there is more unisured than the 10% eligble?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 10/26/2009
- LeighAnnes I'm a Fan of LeighAnnes 26 fans permalink

How does leaving 100% of the uninsured, uninsured not increase costs?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 10/26/2009
- Chris I'm a Fan of Chris 12 fans permalink

When did I claim it did not?

This lady is claiming costs will go down. How can she justify that. If Demand and supply both increase at the same level prices do not drop. Supply has to outweigh demand for the price to drop.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 AM on 10/27/2009
- BruceHNV I'm a Fan of BruceHNV 64 fans permalink

Fairness delayed is fairness denied.

My premiums the last few years have gone up 15% per annum like clockwork. Received a letter today that my premiums are going up 18% (at a time when inflation is flat, you understand). So now my premiums will top $11,000 a year. For a plan that has a $5K deductible and doesn't pay for office visits.

It's just gut-wrenching to get letters like this, knowing that my only other option is to go without, risking financial ruin if I should require as little as a two-day hospitalization. Owing to what would now be a "pre-existing condition," I can't even shop for another company.

Health insurance companies are evil incarnate.

Absent a public option, my wife and I are well and truly scr,ewed/

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 10/26/2009
- WmC I'm a Fan of WmC 16 fans permalink

Hell, even Michelle Bachmann believes the public option will cut costs (30-40%reduction in insurance premiums was her estimate). In fact, she's opposed because it would be too cheap.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 10/26/2009
- PIN News I'm a Fan of PIN News 11 fans permalink
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Here are the ways it will cost cut cost:

Rationing
Cuts to Medicare/Madicade
Increase taxes

Nothing is for free!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 10/26/2009
- OB-GYN I'm a Fan of OB-GYN 46 fans permalink
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Yes, decision tree analysis for most will be encouraged. These algorithms do work: one of the largest currently widely utilized is National Comprehensive Cancer Networks "treatment Guides". Done by a compendium of experts and generally followed. Always exceptions of course.

Rather than each doctor doing it his or her or patient way, (note there's a possible rub), the treatment for diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, etc would follow the expert's algorithm. I don't have a problem with that, as it makes the system more efficient and gives quality assurance to the patient. There can be exceptions of course.

Taxes are inevitable for the Middle Class. But I hope they start way after the Upper Class, given the tax break they've received.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 10/26/2009
- HST I'm a Fan of HST 48 fans permalink
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you forgot killing grandma and grandpa and death panels

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 10/26/2009
- Tim303 I'm a Fan of Tim303 87 fans permalink
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HMOs ration.

I take it you are okay with people dying for lack of coverage.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 10/27/2009
- jennylynn I'm a Fan of jennylynn 49 fans permalink

The dems still don't understand they are paying for anything that the government says it is giving to you. They think the government is a business. So Sad.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 10/28/2009
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Maybe ... the administration is reading the latest credible study on how wasteful the current obscenely enriching (for healthcare execs and shareholders) non-system is ... and they are moving incrementally where they should have been for the last 9 months

http://www.thomsonreuters.com/content/press_room/tsh/waste_US_healthcare_system

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 10/26/2009
- evekendall I'm a Fan of evekendall 123 fans permalink
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Join the Democratic Donor Strike for a Public Option. Withhold ALL donations to Democratic candidates running for office UNTIL they pass a bill with a real public option.

Sign the petition here:
http://www.democrats.com/donor-strike-for-public-option?cid={cid_enc

Then write to your representatives and the White House and let them know what you've done and why.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 10/26/2009
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