While Law School Tuition Skyrockets, Government Student Loan Limits Remain Stagnant

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First Posted: 10-26-09 03:12 PM   |   Updated: 10-26-09 04:01 PM

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While law school tuition has skyrocketed over the past 15 years, federal loan limits have remained stagnant, putting more pressure on students to take out higher-cost private loans.

In 1994, students were limited to $18,500 in low-interest loans from the federal government. Fifteen years later, that limit has only increased to $20,500 though the $18,500 available to students in 1994 is worth $26,959.69 today in inflation-adjusted dollars.

Meanwhile, tuition and fees have tripled for in-state students at public law schools, and more than doubled for out-of-state students at public schools and those at private schools.

In the 1994-95 school year, low-interest federal Stafford loans covered full tuition for in-state students at every public university law school in the country. In the '07-08 school year, Stafford loans covered full tuition at 80 percent of public schools, according to a report released Monday by the Government Accountability Office.

Stafford loans used to cover full tuition for out-of-state students at 97 percent of public university law schools and 80 percent of private law schools. In the 2007-08 school year, those loans covered only 22 and 11 percent, respectively.

The effect has been calamitous for students. The average law school graduate in 2008 left school with more than $71,000 in debt, the GAO reports.

"The rising debt burden of law graduates and other graduates has a negative impact on the ability of highly qualified individuals to pursue careers in public service," the American Bar Association reports. The ABA has been calling for Congress to raise the borrowing limit under the Stafford loan program.

The U.S. House of Representatives recently passed a bill calling for reform in the loan program. It's now in the Senate.

While law school tuition has skyrocketed over the past 15 years, federal loan limits have remained stagnant, putting more pressure on students to take out higher-cost private loans. In 1994, students...
While law school tuition has skyrocketed over the past 15 years, federal loan limits have remained stagnant, putting more pressure on students to take out higher-cost private loans. In 1994, students...
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I came to Law because I wanted to combine my skill set with Engineering and Law; not because I wanted to necessarily obtain a job paying six figures with a law firm. I am a highschool drop out and GED carrying person who can't afford to take the bar at present; it seems that twelve years of Chemical Engineering isn't enough to get a job now. Having said that, my student loans are looming large and I don't know how many times I will be able to get a hardship deferement­/unemploym­ent deferement. Not all people that attend law school are leeches...just everyday people, that thought we could find a niche and apply ourselves in useful works.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 10/27/2009

We may find a way yet to stop the taxpayer's subsidizing these so called "lawyers" from getting a first class law degree yet never practice their trade, or practice for a year or two at best. The senate is filled with lawyers - could that possibly be the reason the nation is in such a mess? Just asking.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:27 PM on 10/27/2009

I don't understand this. Graduate PLUS loans (Federal) have been available since 06/07 and can be used just like a private loan, up to full cost of attendance less Stafford loans but with the same loan forgivenes­s/defermen­t/forbeara­nce/and repayment plan options that Stafford loans offer. The fixed rate is slightly higher, but at least its not variable like the crap the private loans throw out there.
Why are people still borrowing private loans from Sallie Mae or anyone else for that matter? Have they just not reviewed newer stats??

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 PM on 10/27/2009
- ClownPosse I'm a Fan of ClownPosse 11 fans permalink
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Fewer parasites in training ?

Say it isn't so !

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 10/27/2009
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The next time you need a lawyer to defend yourself, keep that remark in mind. You can do what Charles Manson did and defend yourself, though.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 10/27/2009
- AKJM I'm a Fan of AKJM 18 fans permalink
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No, the down side to this is that there will be fewer lawyers in legislatures; they will have to switch from legaleese to English.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 10/27/2009
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Going in to public service out of law school was over a decade ago. This is old news. Most people I know who went to law school have over well over $100k in student loan debt. With President Clinton signing into a law a bill which barred student loans from bankruptcy, those loans will ruin your life forever if you don't pay them off so you have to go to a good firm or corporation to pay them off.

Wouldn't it be nice if the President allowed discharge of student loan debt if you spent a given number of years in public service? Nah, The One is spending too much time on golf courses to consider that.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 10/27/2009

Actually, the College Cost Reduction and Access Act of 2007 created a program that enables lawyers who do public interest work to have all federal loans forgiven after 10 years. The program doesn't include forgiveness for private loans, but it's still significant.

Also, most schools have some sort of loan repayment assistance for lawyers who do public interest work. My school, for example, is currently paying 100% of my monthly student loan payments (I work for state government).

More needs to happen to address the problem, but there are tools out there that enable lawyers to do good work.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 10/27/2009
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Thank you. I had no idea that Bush signed this law until I looked it up after you posted this. I wish it was better publicized.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 10/27/2009
- foxisms I'm a Fan of foxisms 80 fans permalink
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I'm still looking for the down side to this.
We don't need more high priests and preistesses to interpret the law for the American people.
What we need are laws that are clear cut and understandable to the people that need live under them.
There's something intrinsically wrong with a judicial system that requires fleets of attorneys for the purpose of disseminating the hidden meanings and processes of laws which govern the common man and woman and often results in $80 paper copying fees, ungodly hourly rates for consultation and court appearance fees and ultimately unfair and justice-void desicions from the bench or judges.
A few less lawyers and a few more laws that can be understood and managed by the people who have to answer to them would be a great improvement to our system of justice in America.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 10/27/2009

A higher and higher percentage of skilled lawyers will go to work for those who will pay them big bucks. The balance of power is shifting more toward the haves and away from the have-nots. Those same people are the ones served by complex laws that only their lawyers can understand and use. While you can speculate about the simpler system we need, this is not leading us in that direction

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 10/27/2009
- foxisms I'm a Fan of foxisms 80 fans permalink
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Nothing you or I will say here will lead us in any direction.
If it is believed that it somehow will, it is mistaken.
It's just an outlet. Not a legitimate call for referendum.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 10/27/2009

And don't forget the "opportunity costs" of going to law school -- three years of lost income! Anyway, there are few law jobs to be found anywhere, public interest or otherwise.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 10/27/2009
- foxisms I'm a Fan of foxisms 80 fans permalink
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"Opportunity costs" tha are choosen freely.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 10/27/2009
- tel8034 I'm a Fan of tel8034 88 fans permalink

I don't see the connect between student loans and the desire to enter public service.

Regardless of how tertiary education is paid for, it's the individual who ultimately decides their career path (public or private)

This argument would only be plausible IF the terms of a federal student loan REQUIRES that the person enters the public service for a specified number of years after graduation.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 10/27/2009

Fewer lawyers means lower health care costs. Tort reform needs to happen

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 10/27/2009
- KriTiKiT I'm a Fan of KriTiKiT 30 fans permalink
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can't hav it both ways... pay for your school... but you will have to live in poverty with roommates for about 7 years.

its better than selling your credit to a bank, for a slave score that won't count if you pay it and will show when you don't

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 10/27/2009
- Bitsko I'm a Fan of Bitsko 480 fans permalink
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Interesting commentary, but law school grads have been avoiding public service for decades. Greed is all. All hail greed.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 10/27/2009
- whognu I'm a Fan of whognu 6 fans permalink

Do a lot of painting with that broad brush?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 10/27/2009
- KriTiKiT I'm a Fan of KriTiKiT 30 fans permalink
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lawyers should get state loans forgiven if they complete public service... like the teachers get

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 10/27/2009
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I agree with that 100%. I actually just wrote letters today to Senators Boxer and Feinstein urging them to push for legislation so that student loans can be foregiven after a certain number of years of public service. Not just for lawyers but doctors, engineers and host of others that could benefit society and unshackle the chains of student loan debt.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 10/27/2009
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It's not greed. If you have over $100k in student loan debt, which a great many lawyers have, you can't pay that off in a $30k a year public service job. Student loan debt is non-dischargeable in bankruptycy so you are stuck with them and the only way to make the high payments is you have to work at a firm or corporation that pays really well.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 PM on 10/27/2009
- yodz I'm a Fan of yodz permalink

I was about 100K in debt when I graduated in 1996 (damn private school). I went into public service for the first 5 years of my career and would still be there, but for the fact that I couldn't manage the student loan payments and other obligations once the kids started coming along. It's just not feasible for a person to invest that much and work for less than minimum wage (based upon the hours worked for the salary).

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 10/27/2009
- sonshine I'm a Fan of sonshine 23 fans permalink
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This is not the real story. The real story is why law school is so expensive and why are student loans through Sallie Mae so expensive? Why don't they work with people who work in the pulic interest. After law school I worked in public interest but I got married and had 2 children had to go sell my services to the highst bidder since the goverment didn't care how little I earned and wanted almost 2k a month in loan payments. Yes, I tried consolidation and every possible option. 10 years later I am a cog in the wheel of BigLaw for great money with little time to volunteer as I love to do. All I have is stories about when I helped people with my law degree. That's the real story.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 10/27/2009
- swat68 I'm a Fan of swat68 3 fans permalink

Exactly. The problem is the raising cost of tuition period. As I stated below, my daughter is an Art & Illustration Major and already has close to $80k of debt. The entire system needs to be reevaluated. The American Dream should not be about working until you're 80 to pay off student loans but that is what a lot of young grads today will be facing.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 10/27/2009
- whognu I'm a Fan of whognu 6 fans permalink

I hear you and feel for you. My passion is childrens' advocacy. I was a volunteer for years. I went to law school later in life, thinking I could do more to help. Now, I have 100K in loans. To meet Sallie Mae's payment schedule, I'm going to work for a big firm as another cog in the machine. While putting in 60plus billable hours a week, there won't be much time left to volunteer.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 10/27/2009
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All higher education programs are expensive because the government through our tax dollars supports it. Colleges and universities raise fees far in excess of the rate of inflation yet the government won't legislate caps on what universities can charge if they accept federal financial aid money. The federal and state grants keep coming and the federal backed loans keep flowing so there has been absolutely no reason for schools to not gouge students. The schools get their money upfront and don't care if you can't pay your loan. Even college direct loans are not dischargeable in bankruptcy so they know they will eventually be paid back.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 10/27/2009
- wingsabre I'm a Fan of wingsabre 3 fans permalink

It also means less doctors, and we have a shortage.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 10/27/2009

My sister had this problem in Pharmacy school. They would not allow her to take out enough loans to fully cover her expenses (like car and health insurance), she had to borrow money from my parents (luckily she could, if she'd had parents that were unwilling to help her she wouldn't of been able to go).

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 10/27/2009
- wingsabre I'm a Fan of wingsabre 3 fans permalink

I'm in Med school. I have loans up the wazoo. This is not the problem in other countries. They pay doctors less in Germany, but once you get into medical school there, they pay for all of it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 PM on 10/27/2009
- swat68 I'm a Fan of swat68 3 fans permalink

The bigger issue here is the cap on federal loans as well as the increasing tuition costs. My eldest is an Illustration and Animation major with a "President's Scholarship" from her university which covers 1/2 her tuition per semester ($6,000 or $12,000 per year); that said, she already has close to $80k in student loan debt and still has a year and a half to go. I pray that she lands a spot at Pixar, Disney or with one of the gaming companies that will enable her to get an adequate salary in order to pay off this debt which will be the cost of a small house by the time she's finished. My younger daughter wants to go to law student to be a public defender; lord knows what her debt will be when she finishes and everyone knows that public defenders get paid squat.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 10/27/2009
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Why is just about every other poster celebrating this? There won't be fewer lawyers, there will fewer lawyers who refuse to sell out and use their education to help people. Get it?

I really thought hard about law school. I wanted to use my education for something useful, other than making money to buy a lot of stuff that will be out dated and need to be replaced in a couple years, on a never ending cycle. People can't be altruistic anymore. Student debt forces grads to be corporate lawyers, divorce, family law, wills and trusts, etc... lawyers. They are enslaved by the student loans.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 10/27/2009
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