Obama Visits Dover Air Force Base To Honor Fallen Soldiers

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First Posted: 10-29-09 12:09 AM   |   Updated: 10-30-09 08:10 AM

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BEN FELLER, Associated Press

DOVER AIR FORCE BASE, Del. -- Standing in the pre-dawn darkness, President Barack Obama saw the real cost of the war in Afghanistan: The Americans who return in flag-covered cases while much of the nation sleeps in peace.

In a midnight dash to this Delaware base, where U.S. forces killed overseas come home, Obama honored the return of 18 fallen Americans Thursday. All were killed in Afghanistan this week, a brutal stretch that turned October into the most deadly month for U.S. troops since the war began.

The dramatic image of a president on the tarmac was a portrait not witnessed in years. Former President George W. Bush spent lots of time with grieving military families but never went to Dover to meet the remains coming off the cargo plane. Obama did so with the weight of knowing he may soon send more troops off to war.

For all the talk of his potential troop increase - maybe 40,000, maybe some other large figure - Obama got a grim reminder of the number that counts: one.


His name was Dale R. Griffin, an Army sergeant from Terre Haute, Ind. He was the last fallen soldier to come before Obama. And his remains were the only ones to be honored in full view of the media with the permission of his family. An 18-year ban on such coverage was lifted this year under Obama's watch.

The president led a team of officials onto the gray C-17 cargo plane carrying Griffin, and then back off, where they stood for several minutes in a line of honor.

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It was not quite 4 a.m. The sky was black and a yellowish light came from poles flanking the flight. The only sounds were a whirring power unit on the plane and the clicking of cameras. A blue vehicle carrying members of Griffin's family pulled up.

The president saluted as six soldiers in camouflage and black berets carried Griffin's remains into a waiting white van.

The military calls the process a dignified transfer, not a ceremony, because there is nothing to celebrate. The cases are not labeled coffins, although they come off looking that way, enveloped in flags.

On a clear fall night, the president zipped to Dover in about 40 minutes. He immediately spoke privately in a chapel with all the family members.

The solemn process of transferring remains of 15 soldiers and three Drug Enforcement Agency agents unfolded in four separate movements. Obama took part in all of them. A chaplain offered prayers for the fallen, the crews that brought them home, the families who lost a loved one, and a nation embroiled in war.

By 4:45 a.m., the president had touched back down on the South Lawn, where even an active White House was sleepy.

He walked inside, alone.

A president of two inherited wars, Obama is winding down U.S. involvement in Iraq, but the troubled war in Afghanistan is only widening. It has become the dominant foreign policy change of his early presidency. The stability of Afghanistan remains in doubt while the support of the American people is waning.

At least 55 U.S. forces have been killed in October. That's the deadliest month of the war for U.S. forces since the 2001 invasion to oust the Taliban.

Obama is faced with a crucial moment: How to keep al-Qaida terrorists from taking root again in Afghanistan without sinking more American lives and money into a war that isn't working. He is in the midst of an intense review of his war strategy. Aides say he is weeks away from making an announcement.

The president apparently wanted to go to Dover now given the enormous blow to U.S. forces just this week.

On Monday, a U.S. military helicopter crashed returning from the scene of a firefight with suspected Taliban drug traffickers in western Afghanistan, killing 10 Americans including three DEA agents. In a separate crash, four more U.S. troops were killed when two helicopters collided over southern Afghanistan. On Tuesday, eight soldiers were killed when their personnel vehicles was struck by roadside bombs in Afghanistan's Kandahar province.

Obama has upped the U.S. commitment in Afghanistan to 68,000 troops and is considering sending a large addition next year, but fewer than the 40,000 troops requested by his commander there, U.S. officials tell The Associated Press. He holds his next war council meeting with the Joints Chiefs of Staff on Friday.

Bush once said that he felt the appropriate way to show his respect was to meet with family members in private.

The lifting of the ban on media coverage of bodies returning to Dover was done to keep the human cost of war from being shielded from the public.

Obama saw it directly.

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May God Bless America and give this president the courage to carry on despite all that he's going through. I truly admire his compassion and respect for those who have given their all. Some folks... more >>

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0400 waaaaa?
the press happens to be there? just a coincidence...

In a midnight dash to this Delaware base, where U.S. forces killed overseas come home, Barack Hussein Obama II (/bəˈrɑːk huːˈseɪn oʊˈbɑːmə/ ) honored the return of 18 fallen Americans Thursday.

but it's NOT about him, the ONE

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 AM on 11/12/2009
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Perhaps if he had dressed up in a flight suit and pranced around an aircraft carrier, Rush, FOX, and the rest of the right-wingers wouldn't complain that it was just a photo-op?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 AM on 11/02/2009

No, he waited 9 months to go after he played golf 24 times, had glittering dates with his wife in NY, went to Copenhagen to unsuccessfully pimp Chicago to the Olympic Committee, hosted lavish parties for his adoring throngs of supporters, flew off to endless campaign fund raisers, etc. etc. etc. One thing you can say about Obama, respecting dead soldiers returning to the US was really high on his To Do List wasn't it?

I guess he felt lucky he got one set of parents to agree to be a part of the photo op. All his staff had to do is arrange to have that guy be the last one off the plane, get the cameras ready, set up the lighting, practice the salute, and fire up the old helicopter. Mission accomplished.

Nine months. For someone who probably brought it up constantly on the campaign trail. It was useful to talk about it then, but to take some personal action? Nine long months. Can you say Photo Op?

If he really cared after all that jammering on the campaign trail, really had respect for those soldiers, he would have been there on Day 1 of his administration not Day 300 or whatever. And he wouldn't have had cameras and his press secretary with him. The campaign staff probably made him give up a golf date to go. Photo Op, nothing but just another photo op. Cross it off the To Do List. Mission accomplished.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 11/02/2009
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Nine months is shorter than oh, say, never. Which is how many times W and Dick went--combined--in their two terms of office. And since you've brought up golf--how many vacation days did W manage in those two terms when he could never get to Dover? It's important to be good & rested after all, so that when you get memos saying things like "Bin Laden determined to strike in US," you know how to respond quickly and effectively (I think Bush's response was to go play golf). W was happy to be a "war president," except when it actually came to facing the consequences of the wars his lies started.

As for Cheney, let's remember that he shot old men in the face more often than he visited the coffins of our returning soldiers. I guess you could say he "had other priorities."

But Bush did manage to get out to that aircraft carrier in his flight suit. No photo-op that, that's for sure.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 AM on 11/09/2009
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Here's my two cents:

As a service connected compensated veteran living abroad in Switzerland, I watched the precision of the president's salute and it made me proud to have served and yes I'd do it again if I could especially for a commander in chief like the one we have and some are not appreciative of his sincerity.

I'll bet you anything that the parents of the fallen comrade appreciated the presidents gesture and I also wager that those complaining have never worn the uniform nor their devil spawn (LIZZY and FIVE Deferment DICKY boy. )

Salute these fallen heroes of the republic and thank them and take care of their families especially their mothers for baring such noble offspring.

And for those that vilify the president from the anonymity of the PC screen shame on you and your delusional fixation that Quitin' Palin would or could be president of this great republic. Sorry but it will NEVER happen ever. Bank on it.

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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:26 PM on 10/31/2009
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As one who served under the last President immediately after 9-11, you echo the sentiments of most of us. This President, Barack Hussein Obama, is the consummate Commander-in-Chief. I cannot look at the video, but instead stared intently at that photo.

That salute... that salute for a group of Americans that would have been secretly carted off to their hometowns under the last President is imprinted into my memory like the other iconic and painful images resulting from Bush's refusal to respond to actionable intelligence before September 11th.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 11/01/2009
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Thanks for your service fellow brother in arms.

LeeAndrew

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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 11/01/2009

oh, i just noticed:
"...and three Drug Enforcement Agency agents....." were killed. it makes sense, of course, but i was just surprised, i connect DEA with working in the us and mexico.
i wish i knew the details of what happened to them.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 10/31/2009

Memo to Liz: Your father Dick Cheney nor George Bush went to Dover...not once in over 6 years of our fallen soldiers returning home. NOT ONCE. How dare you!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 10/30/2009

I'm thinking he marches pretty good - I'm sure according to Liz Chaney not as good as the LA Air National Guard - but pretty good. And of course her old man never marched for anything - except to the kitchen for another doughnut.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 10/30/2009

My question...why didn't he go w/o the media in tow????

From: www.FreeRepublic.com

Barack Obama was nearly denied the photo-op he traveled to Dover Air Force Base

17 of 18 Families of the Fallen Denied Obama His Photo-Op at Dover
Thursday, October 29, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on Thu Oct 29 13:27:45 2009 by kristinn

Barack Obama was nearly denied the photo-op he traveled to Dover Air Force Base for early this morning as all but one of the military and civilian families of the fallen refused permission for the media to report on the return of their loved ones.

The sole family to allow media coverage was the family of Sgt. Dale R. Griffin.

According to media reports, Griffin's casket was the last to be brought off the C-17 cargo plane that carried the bodies of 15 soldiers and 3 DEA agents killed this week in Afghanistan.

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Obama met with the families of the fallen at a base chapel before the dignified return took place.

Obama's photo-op last night was the culmination of a long campaign by Obama's left wing allies like Code Pink to give aid to our enemies by highlighting the deaths of America's servicemen and women in the war on terror.

While not casting judgment on the decision by the family of Sgt. Griffin, the near unanimous decision of the families to deny Obama his photo-op, compared to the average 60%, is telling.

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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 10/30/2009

Petty complaint - my question is why didn't Bush EVER go?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 10/30/2009

Bush didn't go out of respect for the soldier and their families. Having photo ops to use in your next campaign is not really a sign of respect is it? Giving anti-war groups an opportunity to yell, scream, etc and make a circus out of a sad occasion is not really a good idea is it?

Bush visited with soldier's families a lot. Quietly, without the press, cameras, or his press secretary with him. You cannot fault what Bush did. Ask the families if they expected or wanted the president to meet their son's plane and cause the usual president-is-here commotion at the base. 13 of the families involved here said no. Obama disrespected those families by showing up.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 11/02/2009

why are you posting this? its mentioned in the article, although it doesnt have the repcon spin on it. it also doesnt say that the families knew obama would be there before refusing the press. someone had posted that the other familes were only told the prez would be there AFTER they refused. thats kind of a big thing to leave out if true. i dont know why people post lies when the truth is easily found out, its really quite stupid.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 10/31/2009

This might be somewhat off subject but I was really moved by the sombre ceremony when I watched it on CBS and thought Katie Couric did a good job of presenting it. I was appalled that the network broke for commercial right after and followed with a commercial on ED!!! Who was the programmer who decided that was appropriate timing? Was it meant to be a joke, a slap in the face of the Commander in Chief or does the Pharmaceutical Industry's lust for profit really have to dumb down the portrayal of sacrifice of both the soldiers and their families? After witnessing the carnage of war we're supposed to continue being happy consumers, eating our cheeseburgers, drinking the beer, pop a pill and act like nothing's going on....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 10/30/2009
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Pay close attention while watching tv. The majority of all commercials are from drug companies.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 10/31/2009
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As far as I know, the traditional salute of President of The United States will have his hand over the heart in US Flag raising and other state events. As he is the Commander In Chief the traditional military salute would be appropriate. Whatever your opinion of Obama overall, taking the time to make one appearance at Dover is more times than quite a few Presidents before him. It would be enlightening to find out if this wa the sace with Presidents of the further past like Truman back to Woodrow Wilson. During the Vietnam War I cannot recall a Dover visit by Lyndon Johnson or Richard Nixon. Since Barack Obama has inherited both Iraq and Afganistan conflicts the appearance and salute show class and an aknowledgement of the flag-draped coffins. It seems to me criticizms before Barack Obama were that the Presidents didnt bring Dover up and the media was kept away.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 AM on 10/30/2009
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President Obama took the time to learn how to salute properly, and I commend him for that. It is amazing how many people don't know how to perform a proper military salute. I grew up in a military family and married a soldier, and I can say with some authority that President Obama has what the military calls "command presence" (body language that conveys authority, confidence and respect). I am proud of him for many things, but especially for taking the time to honor our fallen troops.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 10/31/2009
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Hear, Hear!

Third genration Black beret and proud of this president.

Captain Lee Andrew
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 10/31/2009

Every one of you who says this was a photo op or he had this motive or that motive should be ashamed. Better yet, don't be ashamed. Get off your shoulders, get up from behind your keyboard, go down to your local recruiter and sign up. Come on over and see what it feels like to view these kinds of comments from the combat zone. This is from a real soldier on his third tour in Iraq. It doesn't matter what is going on politically. We may have our opinions and personal thoughts but it is our sworn duty to follow the orders of the President of the United States and the officers appointed over us. Good or bad, wrong or right. That is the job. I know President Obama is hurting. Everytime somebody gets killed or hurt he sees those reports in all their gory detail and I now he hurts because I am hurting. Nine months is not going to solve 8 years of mismanagement so get off his back, get behind him or just shut up and get out of the way.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 AM on 10/30/2009

Thank you. I served also and will say, without reservation, that you speak for the real brotherhood of American patriots. Having served ourselves, we know that much of what we read and hear is just talk.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 10/30/2009

Thank you for your service as well Drum.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 10/30/2009

First I want to thank you for your service. Your comments have touched me deeply. You have spoken the truth we all need to hear. I am a 58 year old mother of five. Two son's are now 18 and considering signing up. When I think of this possibility I am fearful but more than that I am proud and I am proud of you. Thank you for setting the record straight. Thank you for everything.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 10/30/2009
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YOu are a credit to your country. God go with you.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 AM on 10/31/2009
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We the People should never have been "shielded" from the true human cost of these wars.

Each and every American who dies in the service of our country deserves to be HONORED by having the media present to show the nation what our political decisions cost, to ensure that not ONE American is sacrificed overseas behind a shield of secrecy.

There was nothing in that video (above) that was dishonorable or shameful.

What is dishonorable and shameful is bringing our fallen soldiers home in secrecy, preventing the nation from seeing EXACTLY what wars cost -- the priceless lives of our sons and daughters.

As usual, the necons say up is down and down is up.

"The truth shall set you FREE." Lying and hiding is for cowards, and NONE of our fallen are cowards.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 AM on 10/30/2009
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Keep in mind, the families were asked if they would allow press coverage of the return of their kin. After all families had made their decision then, and only then, were they advised that the President would be in attendance. If every family had said "no press" the President would still have been there.

Those who suggest that this was just a "photo opp" just don't get it. Mr. Obama is the commander and Chief and it is right and proper that he show his respect on behalf of the nation to those who have paid the ultimate price.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 AM on 10/30/2009
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"A senior White House official told ABC News that the president had wanted to do this ever since the policy of media coverage of the return of fallen troops was changed, but he wanted to do so "in a way that caused the least amount of disruption." "

What, could he not pay his respects to the fallen troops before the policy of media coverage changed?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 10/29/2009

He wasn't President then.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:31 AM on 10/30/2009

This is a terrible use of photo opps. If the president wanted this to be respectful and meaningful, the media should NOT have had a camera there.

Unfortunately, this prez is all about image. What a disgrace.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 10/29/2009
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The cameras were there at the request of Sgt. Griffin's family.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 10/29/2009
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Not at the request- at the approval of Griffin's family. The press wanted to be there, and the Griffin's were ok with it. Not the other way around.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 10/29/2009
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As someone who served in the Army many years ago, I am always fascinated by the way our Presidents salute. Whether you served seems to make no difference. Reagan, Dubya, and Clinton were all sloppy and inconsistent. Almost an afterthought. GHW Bush got it.

Obama is the first other than Bush 1 to really take saluting seriously. His salute is flawless. Maybe it's because he's the first President in a while who isn't self-conscious about his military service.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 10/29/2009
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I notice it, too, Bro. It's one of those things you'll always notice if you've been in the service. President Obama has clearly paid attention to saluting correctly.

(Pay no attention to the CapitolBoss behind the curtain. Dude wouldn't know from "This We'll Defend" if it walked up and bit him on the hind end.)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 10/29/2009
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I was thinking that a salute to the fallen is one of the few times a president gets to make, rather than return, a salute. Being a president means you outrank everyone but the honored dead.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 11/12/2009
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bob, if it isn't ""keep the change, keep the change, keep the change, keep the change....."
It'll be the "18 coffins"....again, and again, and again....with CapitolOffense!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 PM on 10/29/2009
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I've never served in the military but I have to say that I noticed Obama's salute immediately when the footage of Dover was on the news. I was struck by how it seemed so much more 'military' and precise it was than what recall when seeing other presidents of the last 15 years. It's nice to hear that my gut instinct is supported by people who would know.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 10/31/2009

The salute is a simple thing. I got it after about 5 minutes at the Marine Corps' Parris Island Resort. Of course I had some good trainers. Clinton never got it. Why? I have no idea. Maybe he didn't think it was important or that anyone would notice. Obama is not dumb and knew that Clinton took a lot of grief from people who think things like the salute is important and probably practiced it until he got it right. Good for him. Bush had a perfectly acceptable salute. It was a TANG salute, but measurably better than Clinton's.

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