Election Day: What To Watch For In New Jersey, New York And Virginia

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LIZ SIDOTI | 11/ 3/09 11:04 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — Independents who swept Barack Obama to a historic 2008 victory broke big for Republicans on Tuesday as the GOP wrested political control from Democrats in Virginia and New Jersey, a troubling sign for the president and his party heading into an important midterm election year.

Conservative Republican Bob McDonnell's victory in the Virginia governor's race over Democrat R. Creigh Deeds and moderate Republican Chris Christie's ouster of unpopular New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine was a double-barreled triumph for a party looking to rebuild after being booted from power in national elections in 2006 and 2008.

Elsewhere on Tuesday, Maine voted on whether to affirm a state law that would allow same-sex couples to wed. If supporters prevail, it would mark the first time that the electorate in any state endorsed gay marriage.

And voters chose a congressmen in the GOP-held vacant 23rd Congressional District seat in New York, where Democrat Bill Owens led in the early vote count over conservative Doug Hoffman. That race highlighted fissures in the Republican Party and illustrated hurdles the GOP could face in capitalizing on any voter discontent with Obama and Democrats next fall.

California also picked a congressman for a vacant seat, Ohio voted on allowing casinos and a slew of cities selected mayors, including New York, which gave Michael Bloomberg a third term.

The outcomes of Virginia and New Jersey were sure to feed discussion about the state of the electorate, the status of the diverse coalition that sent Obama to the White House and the limits of the president's influence – on the party's base of support and on moderate current lawmakers he needs to advance his legislative priorities.

His signature issue of health care reform was dealt a blow hours before polls closed when Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid signaled that Congress may not complete health care legislation this year, missing Obama's deadline and pushing debate into a congressional election year. Democrats in swing-voting states and moderate-to-conservative districts may be less willing to back Obama on issues like health care after Virginia and New Jersey showed there are limits to how much he can protect his rank and file from fallout back home.

The president had personally campaigned for Deeds and Corzine, seeking to ensure that independents and base voters alike turned out even if he wasn't on the ballot – and voters still rejected them. Thus, the losses were blots on Obama's political standing to a certain degree and suggested potential problems ahead as he seeks to achieve his policy goals, protect Democratic majorities in Congress and expand his party's grip on governors' seats next fall.

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Interviews with voters leaving polling stations in both states were filled with reasons for Democrats to be concerned and for Republicans to be optimistic, particularly about independents – the crown jewel of elections because they often determine outcomes.

Independents were a critical part Obama's victory in Virginia, New Jersey and across the country. But after more than a year of recession, they fled from Democrats in the two states, where the economy trumped all.

The Associated Press exit polls showed that nearly a third of voters in Virginia described themselves as independents, and nearly as many in New Jersey did. They preferred McDonnell by almost a 2-1 margin over Deeds in Virginia, and Christie over Corzine by a similar margin.

Last year, independents split between Obama and Republican John McCain in both states.

In Virginia, McDonnell won by big margins in rapidly growing, far-flung Washington, D.C., suburbs – places like Loudoun and Prince William counties – that Republicans historically have won but where Obama prevailed last fall by winning over independents and swing voters. Republicans swept all three statewide Virginia offices up for election: governor, lieutenant governor and attorney general.

"Bob McDonnell's victory gives Republicans tremendous momentum heading into 2010," declared Haley Barbour, chairman of the Republican Governors Association. "His focus on ideas and pocketbook issues will serve as a model for Republicans running next year."

Said Tim Kaine, the Democratic National Committee chairman and the term-limited Virginia governor: "We are disappointed."

In both states, the surveys also suggested the Democrats had difficulty turning out their base, including the large numbers of first-time minority and youth voters whom Obama attracted. The Virginia electorate was whiter in 2009 than it was in 2008, when blacks and Hispanics voted in droves to elect the country's first black president.

Democratic victories in both Virginia, a new swing state, and New Jersey, a Democratic stronghold, in 2005 preceded big Democratic years nationally in 2006 and 2008.

Tuesday's impact on Obama's popularity and on the 2010 elections could easily be overstated. Voters are often focused on local issues and local personalities.

Yet, national issues, like the recession, were clearly a factor, with voter attitudes shaped to some degree by how people feel about the state of their nation – and their place in it.

And, voter attitudes – particularly among independents – could bode ill for Democrats in moderate districts and in swing states like Ohio, Colorado and Nevada, should they remain unchanged when the party seeks to defend its turf next fall. In 2010, most governors, a third of the Senate and all members in the House will be on ballots.

It's also difficult to separate Obama from the outcomes after he devoted a significant chunk of time working to persuade voters to elect Deeds in Virginia and re-elect Corzine in New Jersey.

More than four in 10 voters in Virginia said their view of Obama factored into their choice on Tuesday, and those voters roughly split between expressing support and opposition for the president. People who said they disapprove of Obama's job performance voted overwhelmingly Republican, and those who approve of the president favored Deeds, the Democrat.

The Obama factor was similar in New Jersey, though there were slightly more voters who said the president did not factor into their choice.

WASHINGTON — Independents who swept Barack Obama to a historic 2008 victory broke big for Republicans on Tuesday as the GOP wrested political control from Democrats in Virginia and New Jersey, a...
WASHINGTON — Independents who swept Barack Obama to a historic 2008 victory broke big for Republicans on Tuesday as the GOP wrested political control from Democrats in Virginia and New Jersey, a...
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I'm surprised that all the news outlets, including NPR , which really surprised me, are focusing on these elections as some kind of referendum on Democrats as a political party.
I think the reason the Dems lost in Virginia and NJ is the fact that the individual candidates in those races, who just happened to be Democrats, were poor candidates, who either campaigned badly, performed badly on the job, or both.
I think the losses in VA and NJ have very little to do with Obama or the Dems nationally. I say, do a good job for the American People, no matter your political party, and you'll get into office and stay there until your term-limited out. Screw up and you're out of office. It's called democracy.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 11/04/2009
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Are we supposed to be surprised? I mean, come on. It's New Jersey and Virginia. I wish we could get rid of the two party system. It just pits us against one another as if we are rooting for a sports team.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 11/04/2009
- RachelMc I'm a Fan of RachelMc 78 fans permalink
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i still dont get how ppl can vote for a candidate who is in a party of b|gots and h a t e mongering fearful tea bagging l00ns. even if their candidate hasn't been caught participating in those things he has probably kept silent about them which means he silently condones it.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 11/04/2009
- lovbug I'm a Fan of lovbug 38 fans permalink

I'm not surprised at Virginia because they have a history of switching parties for their governors. But, New Jersey? They will reqret that. We once had a Republican Governor in our democratic state and it was a disaster. That Republican came in and off the bat wanted to raise state and community college tuitions, taxes, cut public school budgets, cut social program budgets and dish out big tax breaks (corporate welfare) to big businesses that operate in our state. He tried every trick in the book. Luckily we had a Democratic legislature that fought and blocked alot of these proposals and when elections came around we boots him out of our Governorship. Don't be fooled, Republicans do raise taxes. And, if they don't they will run up a heck of a debt in your state and then leave the state strapped. Then a Democrat will have to come in and fix things. It happens in Virginia all the time.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:21 AM on 11/04/2009
- lovbug I'm a Fan of lovbug 38 fans permalink

Only 1 year in office and Obama is being blamed for everything. Do they think the country got to where it is overnight? These so called Independents are wishy washy, they can't make up their minds and yet they want finite results from others. What short memories does Americans have. New Jersey and Virginia will get the government they deserve, same ol same ol.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 AM on 11/04/2009

INDEPENDENTS are wishy washy that atitude is why the dems lost . and no this country didnt get to where it is today overnight but a big part was 2 days. Katrina and 911. true the war did take a batch of US cash but these events also played a big part on the economy or does your short memory forget. not to mention the fact that congress and senate also were a dem majority the last few years when things really got bad. Repugs might be the so called party of no but when the war cash and request where made the party of always yes where right there to help out. they need to be a party of NO somedays also.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 11/04/2009
- lovbug I'm a Fan of lovbug 38 fans permalink

You make a valid point, smahl. But, Independents have to get in the trenches, they can't keep hiding behind the mishaps of the Dems and Repubs and just jump in when they want to change outcomes or a point of view. They want to stay clean but they have to start doing some work and have a solid message. That's all i'm saying.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 11/04/2009
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Tell ya right now, Obama will not be re-elected for a second term. He was one big disappointment.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:43 AM on 11/04/2009
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That's just your opinion. Can I borrow your crystal ball?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 11/04/2009
- bushlies I'm a Fan of bushlies 5 fans permalink

Don't care what BS spin they're putting on this. It lucks like they're BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 11/03/2009
- chasethis I'm a Fan of chasethis 244 fans permalink
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Election night music. (Forgive me)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWPY2rEYp1E

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 11/03/2009
- Aerows I'm a Fan of Aerows 89 fans permalink
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All I can say is any woman that voted for McDonnell deserves the governing she gets. It's unfortunate, however, for the women who didn't vote for him.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 PM on 11/03/2009
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Voting poll closing times in ...

NJ 8:00 PM EST
NY 9:00 PM EST
VA 7:00 PM EST
CA 11:00 PM EST

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 11/03/2009
- GeekGirl I'm a Fan of GeekGirl 134 fans permalink
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Okay, I'm going to NY-23 election thread, looks like it's a lot more livelier than this one

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 PM on 11/03/2009
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Voting polls in NY close at 9:00 PM EST.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 PM on 11/03/2009
- gladys46 I'm a Fan of gladys46 243 fans permalink

So, am I to believe that independants really did think that Obama was the messiah ? I mean, to judge progress so soon and all .. did they actually think he could flip a switch ???

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 11/03/2009
- lovbug I'm a Fan of lovbug 38 fans permalink

These Independents are a bunch of fickle, indecisive people, that's looking for instant results. Well, their search is not over because they won't be getting it from no nothing Republicans. VA & NJ got the govt. they deserve. They will have to pay that price. They should have taken a clue from California.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:09 AM on 11/04/2009

Bitter are we.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 AM on 11/04/2009
- grn1 I'm a Fan of grn1 9 fans permalink

Funny, now that the two party (really just one ) has failed us all, we'll blame the independents.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:18 AM on 11/04/2009
- GeekGirl I'm a Fan of GeekGirl 134 fans permalink
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@ Karate Kid, it must be a different GG, I only joined a couple of months ago

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 11/03/2009
- KarateKid I'm a Fan of KarateKid 437 fans permalink
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Oh, ok. But, in one short evening, I'm already a fan. :-D

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 11/03/2009
- GeekGirl I'm a Fan of GeekGirl 134 fans permalink
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Back atcha, I am a really sweet GeekGirl

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 11/03/2009
- KarateKid I'm a Fan of KarateKid 437 fans permalink
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Was your other avatar a cream tone, with the sword in the middle.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 11/03/2009
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From what I've gathered thru extensive research on said subject,

Republicans and r*ighties have little to grasp between their respective legs and therefore tend to grasp at straws.

I suppose I, too, would do same (grasp at straws) if I had that problem....but I don't.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 11/03/2009
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Link to photos?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 11/03/2009
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Some things are better left to the imagination.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 11/03/2009
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You're too busy grasping at gems.

; )

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 11/03/2009
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how in god's name is one of my best friends?!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 11/03/2009
- GeekGirl I'm a Fan of GeekGirl 134 fans permalink
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Pics please:-)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 11/03/2009
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to be released

welcome back

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 11/03/2009
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Good to see you. You are on good behavior today.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 11/03/2009
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dude, call it premonition or paranoia...but just have this funny feeling, from time to time on certain days, that there's a m*od paying closer attention to me than normal. I was getting scrubbed on earlier thread on practically every comment. The last time I was banned, multiple scrubbings preceded that as well

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 11/03/2009
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