Find Out Where World Leaders Stands On Climate Change Legislation

BBC NEWS :

There are just over four weeks to go before the Copenhagen conference intended to agree a new international framework for controlling greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions. The final round of preparatory talks in Barcelona has revealed deep divisions between some of the key participants. Use this table to study their positions.

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[Richard2]

The President of the Czech Republic, President Klaus, was somehow omitted from this list of leaders. It would have been interesting to see how his views would be summarized in this article!

The nations that benefited from the fall of the Berlin Wall may hold more critical views than most, of various attempts to create a world government structure. A world government struture, with the power to tax, and to redistribute wealth, is needed to deal with man-made global warming.

Those who once lost their freedoms are more likely to fight the most to preserve them.

[fumes]

global climate uncertainty is an easy sell..

but warming not so much.

[DocSkull]

What do you mean? As the article establishes only in China - whose pollution you've provided evidence in other threads - did those who aren't worried about global warming outnumber those who do.

[Dredd]

One problem they have is that all weather is local.

http://blogdredd.blogspot.com/2009/11/all-weather-is-local.html

[CommunistUtopia]

We need to build more coal and nuclear plants. Further, let's drill for oil on our land so that we will reap the benefits in the next few years.

[BannedNBoston]

We need renewable energy hemp diesel!!
wind & solar too.

Lord Monkton on EU failed cap and trade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFJKBgDu1LY

[freshmind]

realpolitic

Why keep repeating that the earth's climate has been stable over the last ten years when you know it is not true? Furthermore, the majority of people want some kind of cap-and-trade legislation passed, and moreso among educated people and the young!

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More so among educated people and the young? You mean the young you like to brainwash with this garbage? Are the young are coming out on TV and voicing support for the cap-and-trash tax bill? No,

[realpolitic]

Freshmind- you are not! Maybe old, calcified, unused mind! Say hi to Glenn Beck!

[realpolitic]

A majority of Americans favor the climate bill and want the Senate to act

"A Zogby poll found that a majority of Americans favors the Clean Energy Bill and wants the Senate to take action. Favorable views of the bill were high among all age and income groups; and ditto for the belief that environmental efforts will create new American jobs."

-71 percent favor the climate bill that was passed by the House of Representatives.

-67 percent think Congress is either “doing the right amount” or “should be doing more” to address global warming.

-51 percent think that “efforts to reduce global warming and promote clean energy” will lead to new job creation, and another 17 percent think the efforts will not affect American jobs at all. Less than one-third are worried the bill will cause job losses.

-Even Republicans aren’t as opposed to the bill as their party leaders might want them to be -- 45 percent have a favorable view of ACES. (A whopping 89 percent of Democrats and 73 percent of Independents like the measure)

Zogby released the results on Aug. 11, 2009

[Richard2]

In the U.S., the recent Pew Poll indicated that only 36% of Americans think that man-made global warming is real, down from 47% one year ago.

Thus 64% of Americans likely think that any government expenditure on global warming agreements is a poor use of scarce government funds, at a time of great financial strain.

Further, many Americans are now familiar with the fact that the earth's climate has been stable for the last ten years. If the climate is stable, why are leaders preparing to tax their citizens to deal with an idea, global warming, which isn't now occurring?

In addition, some Americans think there has been global warming, but it isn't caused by man. Theories of natural climate variation, based on orbits of planets and moons, are gaining wider audiences.

[OneVoiceInACrowd]

what is 64 + 47?

[Calinative]

You mean 64+36, dummy.

[realpolitic]

Why keep repeating that the earth's climate has been stable over the last ten years when you know it is not true? Furthermore, the majority of people want some kind of cap-and-trade legislation passed, and moreso among educated people and the young!

In terms of planet coolig nonsense,

"We see evidence of a slowing of the warming trend but not of cooling. The past five years (2004–2008) were on average warmer than the previous five years (1999–2003) , which were warmer than the previous 5 years, and so on down the series. However, the difference between the 2004–2008 average and the 1999-2003 averages is not statistically significant. No cooling there. OK, but some of you are probably still wondering why 2008 was such a cold year. Two things:"

"1. The stars (so to speak) were apparently aligned to make 2008 a cold year. The Pacific Ocean was in a La Nina phase, which favors cold global temperatures, and the sun was going through (and by the way continues to go thorough) an unusually strong minimum in its 11-year cycle; and"

"2. Even so, 2008 was not that cold. 2008 was actually the eighth or ninth warmest year on record. How could 2008 be the eighth warmest despite La Nina and the solar cycle? Greenhouse gas warming anyone?"

http://www.popsci.com/environment/article/2009-03/pronouncement-global-warming%E2%80%99s-demise-thin-ice

[Richard2]

Just for the sake of discussion, suppose we accept the idea that the earth's climate is still warming, it just is warming at a much slower rate than previously.

How are we to explain this? The amount of CO2 being released into the atmosphere continues to increase, as new Chinese coal fired power plants are completed each and every month. The earth's warming should be accelerating, not slowing down, if CO2 is the main forcer of climate change.

So what forces are causing the slowing of the earth's warming? How can they be so powerful as to significantly slow the forcing by CO2? Why aren't efforts focused on researching and understanding the processes that have caused this slowing? It appears the strength of these forces could be increasing, as they more than cancel out the CO2 effect.

[Publicola]

29% of Americans do not understand that the Earth goes around the Sun http://science.drvinson.net/pollss). That 29% are unfortunately unlikely to understand the following either:

1: Short-term statistical variability does not undermine the significance of long term statistical trends.

2: The past several years have all been amongst the warmest years since direct temperature measurements have been recorded.

3. The mean global temperature has also been increasing over this period.

4. That increase in the mean global temperature means there is an increased overall energy in the earth-atmosphere system, which can and will manifest itself in more extreme weather, both hotter and colder.

5. By only looking at atmospheric temperatures one is ignoring 97% of where the increased energy is going in the earth-atmosphere system: 90% goes into the oceans, and 7% goes into melting ice. Related to that, during a La Nina for example the upwelling of cold water in the eastern Pacific soaks up heat from the atmosphere.

More on point #5 here:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14527-climate-myths-global-warming-stopped-in-1998.html?full=true

[DocSkull]

You don't understand this poll any better than the human contribution to global warming. No one was asked about uses of government funds. You've incorrectly assumed that anyone who wasn't on board for humans being the cause of global warming was against it. However, that isn't what the poll found. More than twice as many people (36-percent to 16-percent) cite humans over nature as the cause of global warming.

There has been a decrease in the number of people who see climate warming as a serious problem, but that may well be because there are currently more important problems, like the economy.

Pew's Poll
http://people-press.org/report/556/global-warming

[Daw8it]

Raise hell for the energy bill: http://www.foe.org/school-senate-video