GOP Governor Candidates Rip 'Socialized Medicine' While Dems Back Public Option

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CHICAGO — Candidates for Illinois governor are split over a national health care plan with all but one Republican saying the state should opt out if it can, a position rejected by Democrats Pat Quinn and Dan Hynes.

Democrats in Washington are considering whether to include a public option – that is, a government-managed health insurance program – in any health care overhaul they try to pass. To make that public option more palatable to doubters, some advocates are pushing to let individual states drop out if they wish.

"If I wanted to be part of socialized medicine, I'd move to Europe," state Sen. Kirk Dillard said at a Republican gubernatorial debate Thursday in Chicago.

All but one of the seven Republican candidates running for governor have said they would want Illinois to opt out of a public option.

Former Illinois Attorney General Jim Ryan is the one exception. Ryan said he didn't know enough about the health care proposal to say what he would do, although he admits having "reservations" about the public option because of its cost.

"I don't think we have to take the best health care system in the world and turn it on its head," he said.

Quinn and Hynes said Illinoisans need access to a public health insurance program if there is one.

"I am not for any opt-out for the land of Lincoln," Quinn said. "That would be the wrong way to go."

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Hynes agreed. "Clearly our Republican friends think the health care status quo is just fine. We don't," Hynes spokesman Matt McGrath said.

So far, the possibility of opting out is just that – a possibility. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has said the Senate's health plan will include an opt-out provision, but he hasn't provided details on how it would work.

"You need better candidates in Illinois if they are trying to make a campaign issue out of this when there isn't even legislative language yet. Frankly, I'm dumbfounded," said Alwyn Cassil, spokeswoman for the Center for Studying Health System Change, a nonpartisan research group.

Experts say a public option, if one is created, is likely to be a small part of any health care reform. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that only 2 percent of people under 65 would sign up for the public option under a plan moving forward in the U.S. House.

It's not clear what Illinois would give up if it opted out of a government-run health plan.

Potentially, Illinoisans could end up paying higher taxes associated with a health care overhaul but not gain the benefit of a government plan to use if no private insurance is available.

One Republican candidate, state Sen. Bill Brady, of Bloomington, Ill., said he would tell federal officials they can't use Illinois tax dollars for a national health care program.

"It's time someone slapped the hands of the federal government and said enough is enough," he said.

DuPage County Board chairman Bob Schillerstrom, another Republican candidate, said he would opt out because he believes government programs have higher costs and less service.

Bruce Vladeck, former head of the federal agency that oversees Medicaid and Medicare, said he doubted states that opted out would suffer – or gain advantage.

"Other than making some of the local insurance companies feel less nervous, I don't see any benefit," Vladeck said. "It certainly wouldn't have any economic benefit."

Many unions support the public option, including the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees. Anders Lindall, spokesman for AFSCME's Illinois division, called it "rank hypocrisy" for Republicans to talk about fiscal responsibility and then reject a plan projected to lower the federal deficit and reduce the health care costs plaguing the state budget.

"We're hearing pure political pandering that ignores reality and plays only to the fringe extremists of that party," Lindall said.

CHICAGO — Candidates for Illinois governor are split over a national health care plan with all but one Republican saying the state should opt out if it can, a position rejected by Democrats Pat ...
CHICAGO — Candidates for Illinois governor are split over a national health care plan with all but one Republican saying the state should opt out if it can, a position rejected by Democrats Pat ...
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- isee61 I'm a Fan of isee61 11 fans permalink
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Maybe some people in congress doesn't know what the word "OPTION' means.

This is what The american century dictionary says the word "OPTON" is:

op-tion 1a choosing; choice b thing chosen 2 liberty to choose 3 right to buy or sell at a specified price within a set time.

WOW!!! what a concept. That means if you don't want a public option then you don't chose it, but if you do that means you can choose it. WOW!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 11/09/2009

If it's so bad he should give up his public insurance maybe then some one might listen.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 11/09/2009
- woody7 I'm a Fan of woody7 3 fans permalink
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my answer is if you don't like the public option don't take it........

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 11/09/2009
- Lorianne I'm a Fan of Lorianne 60 fans permalink
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Why I Voted NO ___ by Dennis Kucinich
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article23922.htm

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 11/09/2009
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No, Ryan, you don't know enough about the health care situation. But you apparently did "know" enough to keep Rolando Cruz on death row for a crime he did not commit.

Don't even try, Jim.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 11/09/2009
- DASChicago I'm a Fan of DASChicago 10 fans permalink
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Didn't Ryan's daughter have an illness and didn't he have cancer, or both? He should be extremely sensitive to health care reform by all accounts!

Additionally, Jim/George­...George/­Jim....Rya­ns? ooooohhhh ..........­.noooooooo­ooooo.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 11/10/2009
- expired I'm a Fan of expired 26 fans permalink

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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 11/09/2009
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 11/09/2009
- expired I'm a Fan of expired 26 fans permalink

Sooo, lemme get this straight . . . You can benefit from "government run" insurance in your civil servant capacity, but we can't. Hmmm.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 11/09/2009

The senator gets the public insurance that we pay for. If he wants to live in the third world he can move.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 11/08/2009
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"If I wanted to be part of socialized medicine, I'd move to Europe," state Sen. Kirk Dillard said at a Republican gubernatorial debate Thursday in Chicago.

Mr, Dillard you are 54, what do you think you are going to get 11 years from now ya idi..ot!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 11/08/2009
- SoccerNana I'm a Fan of SoccerNana 21 fans permalink
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ROFLOL!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 11/08/2009

Funny how all these Republicans says Government mandated health care is socialist but, yet these sa,e Republicans who serve Congress have a form of this same so-called socialist medic care for life. Whats good for Congress should be good for the public to, provided its a choice.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 11/08/2009
- SoccerNana I'm a Fan of SoccerNana 21 fans permalink
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True.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 11/08/2009
- sski74 I'm a Fan of sski74 29 fans permalink
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Since they are so against socialized medicine, they had better never get old. What do they think Medicare is?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 11/08/2009

It seems to me, in my shallow mind, that the very idea of insurance, in and of itself, is precisely the definition of socialism. You gather a large number of people, collect money, put it in a pool, and then spend it on pre-determined purchases.
In the case of the unneeded insurance companies only 70% is paid out of the socialized funds and 30% is skimmed for the dealer. If we pool the same money with a non-profit entity, the 30% could be slashed drastically, more would be paid for the intended purpose and we would still have the same socialism minus the casino raking the skim. Everyone but the house is happy . Sounds like an easy idea to me

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 AM on 11/09/2009
- sski74 I'm a Fan of sski74 29 fans permalink
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Look at that! Rationality. Well said.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 11/09/2009
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That's rich. GOP candidates are ripping "socialized medicine" all the while running for a government job that will give them ... government health insurance.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 11/08/2009
- SoccerNana I'm a Fan of SoccerNana 21 fans permalink
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For life if they stay in long enough (spouse too).

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 11/08/2009
- listentome I'm a Fan of listentome 83 fans permalink
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The GOP is against anything that they consider government run because they want things to remain the same. They know that all of the changes that have benefited women, minorities, gays, and the handicapped in the last 100 years are the direct result of government actions and responses to the changing world. A world that was sharply different from the world that was in existence when the Constitution was written and only pertained to white, straight, healthy men.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 PM on 11/08/2009
- grind88 I'm a Fan of grind88 8 fans permalink

number 37?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 11/07/2009
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