Obama Ft. Hood Speech: VIDEO, TEXT Of Memorial Remarks

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First Posted: 11-10-09 02:30 PM   |   Updated: 11-10-09 03:57 PM

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One by one, President Barack Obama spoke the names and told the stories Tuesday of the 13 people slain in the Fort Hood shooting rampage, honoring their memories even as he denounced the "twisted logic" that led to their deaths.

"No faith justifies these murderous and craven acts; no just and loving God looks upon them with favor," Obama told the crowd on a steamy Texas afternoon. "And for what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice -- in this world and the next."

As for the victims and the soldiers who rushed to help them, Obama said, "We need not look to the past for greatness, because it is before our very eyes." He spoke at a memorial service before a crowd estimated at 15,000 on this enormous Army post.

Below, read the full text and watch video of President Obama's speech.

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We come together filled with sorrow for the thirteen Americans that we have lost; with gratitude for the lives that they led; and with a determination to honor them through the work we carry on.

This is a time of war. And yet these Americans did not die on a foreign field of battle. They were killed here, on American soil, in the heart of this great American community. It is this fact that makes the tragedy even more painful and even more incomprehensible.

For those families who have lost a loved one, no words can fill the void that has been left. We knew these men and women as soldiers and caregivers. You knew them as mothers and fathers; sons and daughters; sisters and brothers.

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But here is what you must also know: your loved ones endure through the life of our nation. Their memory will be honored in the places they lived and by the people they touched. Their life's work is our security, and the freedom that we too often take for granted. Every evening that the sun sets on a tranquil town; every dawn that a flag is unfurled; every moment that an American enjoys life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - that is their legacy.

Neither this country - nor the values that we were founded upon - could exist without men and women like these thirteen Americans. And that is why we must pay tribute to their stories.


Chief Warrant Officer Michael Cahill had served in the National Guard and worked as a physician's assistant for decades. A husband and father of three, he was so committed to his patients that on the day he died, he was back at work just weeks after having a heart attack.

Major Libardo Eduardo Caraveo spoke little English when he came to America as a teenager. But he put himself through college, earned a PhD, and was helping combat units cope with the stress of deployment. He is survived by his wife, sons and step-daughters.

Staff Sergeant Justin DeCrow joined the Army right after high school, married his high school sweetheart, and had served as a light wheeled mechanic and Satellite Communications Operator. He was known as an optimist, a mentor, and a loving husband and father.

After retiring from the Army as a Major, John Gaffaney cared for society's most vulnerable during two decades as a psychiatric nurse. He spent three years trying to return to active duty in this time of war, and he was preparing to deploy to Iraq as a Captain. He leaves behind a wife and son.

Specialist Frederick Greene was a Tennessean who wanted to join the Army for a long time, and did so in 2008 with the support of his family. As a combat engineer he was a natural leader, and he is survived by his wife and two daughters.

Specialist Jason Hunt was also recently married, with three children to care for. He joined the Army after high school. He did a tour in Iraq, and it was there that he re-enlisted for six more years on his 21st birthday so that he could continue to serve.

Staff Sergeant Amy Krueger was an athlete in high school, joined the Army shortly after 9/11, and had since returned home to speak to students about her experience. When her mother told her she couldn't take on Osama bin Laden by herself, Amy replied: "Watch me."

Private First Class Aaron Nemelka was an Eagle Scout who just recently signed up to do one of the most dangerous jobs in the service - diffuse bombs - so that he could help save lives. He was proudly carrying on a tradition of military service that runs deep within his family.

Private First Class Michael Pearson loved his family and loved his music, and his goal was to be a music teacher. He excelled at playing the guitar, and could create songs on the spot and show others how to play. He joined the military a year ago, and was preparing for his first deployment.

Captain Russell Seager worked as a nurse for the VA, helping veterans with Post-Traumatic Stress. He had great respect for the military, and signed up to serve so that he could help soldiers cope with the stress of combat and return to civilian life. He leaves behind a wife and son.

Private Francheska Velez, the daughter of a father from Colombia and a Puerto Rican mother, had recently served in Korea and in Iraq, and was pursuing a career in the Army. When she was killed, she was pregnant with her first child, and was excited about becoming a mother.

Lieutenant Colonel Juanita Warman was the daughter and granddaughter of Army veterans. She was a single mother who put herself through college and graduate school, and served as a nurse practitioner while raising her two daughters. She also left behind a loving husband.

Private First Class Kham Xiong came to America from Thailand as a small child. He was a husband and father who followed his brother into the military because his family had a strong history of service. He was preparing for his first deployment to Afghanistan.

These men and women came from all parts of the country. Some had long careers in the military. Some had signed up to serve in the shadow of 9/11. Some had known intense combat in Iraq and Afghanistan, and some cared for those did. Their lives speak to the strength, the dignity and the decency of those who serve, and that is how they will be remembered.

That same spirit is embodied in the community here at Fort Hood, and in the many wounded who are still recovering. In those terrible minutes during the attack, soldiers made makeshift tourniquets out of their clothes. They braved gunfire to reach the wounded, and ferried them to safety in the backs of cars and a pick-up truck.

One young soldier, Amber Bahr, was so intent on helping others that she did not realize for some time that she, herself, had been shot in the back. Two police officers - Mark Todd and Kim Munley - saved countless lives by risking their own. One medic - Francisco de la Serna - treated both Officer Munley and the gunman who shot her.

It may be hard to comprehend the twisted logic that led to this tragedy. But this much we do know - no faith justifies these murderous and craven acts; no just and loving God looks upon them with favor. And for what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice - in this world, and the next.

These are trying times for our country. In Afghanistan and Pakistan, the same extremists who killed nearly 3,000 Americans continue to endanger America, our allies, and innocent Afghans and Pakistanis. In Iraq, we are working to bring a war to a successful end, as there are still those who would deny the Iraqi people the future that Americans and Iraqis have sacrificed so much for.

As we face these challenges, the stories of those at Fort Hood reaffirm the core values that we are fighting for, and the strength that we must draw upon. Theirs are tales of American men and women answering an extraordinary call - the call to serve their comrades, their communities, and their country. In an age of selfishness, they embody responsibility. In an era of division, they call upon us to come together. In a time of cynicism, they remind us of who we are as Americans.

We are a nation that endures because of the courage of those who defend it. We saw that valor in those who braved bullets here at Fort Hood, just as surely as we see it in those who signed up knowing that they would serve in harm's way.

We are a nation of laws whose commitment to justice is so enduring that we would treat a gunman and give him due process, just as surely as we will see that he pays for his crimes.

We are a nation that guarantees the freedom to worship as one chooses. And instead of claiming God for our side, we remember Lincoln's words, and always pray to be on the side of God.

We are a nation that is dedicated to the proposition that all men and women are created equal. We live that truth within our military, and see it in the varied backgrounds of those we lay to rest today. We defend that truth at home and abroad, and we know that Americans will always be found on the side of liberty and equality. That is who we are as a people.

Tomorrow is Veterans Day. It is a chance to pause, and to pay tribute - for students to learn of the struggles that preceded them; for families to honor the service of parents and grandparents; for citizens to reflect upon the sacrifices that have been made in pursuit of a more perfect union.

For history is filled with heroes. You may remember the stories of a grandfather who marched across Europe; an uncle who fought in Vietnam; a sister who served in the Gulf. But as we honor the many generations who have served, I think all of us - every single American - must acknowledge that this generation has more than proved itself the equal of those who have come before.

We need not look to the past for greatness, because it is before our very eyes.

This generation of soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines and Coast Guardsmen have volunteered in a time of certain danger. They are part of the finest fighting force that the world has ever known. They have served tour after tour of duty in distant, different and difficult places. They have stood watch in blinding deserts and on snowy mountains. They have extended the opportunity of self-government to peoples that have suffered tyranny and war. They are man and woman; white, black, and brown; of all faiths and stations - all Americans, serving together to protect our people, while giving others half a world away the chance to lead a better life.

In today's wars, there is not always a simple ceremony that signals our troops' success - no surrender papers to be signed, or capital to be claimed. But the measure of their impact is no less great - in a world of threats that know no borders, it will be marked in the safety of our cities and towns, and the security and opportunity that is extended abroad. And it will serve as testimony to the character of those who serve, and the example that you set for America and for the world.

Here, at Fort Hood, we pay tribute to thirteen men and women who were not able to escape the horror of war, even in the comfort of home. Later today, at Fort Lewis, one community will gather to remember so many in one Stryker Brigade who have fallen in Afghanistan.

Long after they are laid to rest - when the fighting has finished, and our nation has endured; when today's servicemen and women are veterans, and their children have grown - it will be said of this generation that they believed under the most trying of tests; that they persevered not just when it was easy, but when it was hard; and that they paid the price and bore the burden to secure this nation, and stood up for the values that live in the hearts of all free peoples.

So we say goodbye to those who now belong to eternity. We press ahead in pursuit of the peace that guided their service. May God bless the memory of those we lost. And may God bless the United States of America.

One by one, President Barack Obama spoke the names and told the stories Tuesday of the 13 people slain in the Fort Hood shooting rampage, honoring their memories even as he denounced the "twisted logi...
One by one, President Barack Obama spoke the names and told the stories Tuesday of the 13 people slain in the Fort Hood shooting rampage, honoring their memories even as he denounced the "twisted logi...
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President Obama and the rest of America is remiss in saying 13 people were killed at Ft Hood. Private Francheska Velez was pregnant so that makes 14 people that Hasan has murdered. That was a baby inside Private Velez that if full term would be a person like you and I. After all, that's how we all started as a developing baby in our mother's womb.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 11/15/2009
- LMPE I'm a Fan of LMPE 59 fans permalink

Too bad that the right-wing idiocracy uses the event to spread xenophobia.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 11/12/2009

Why do we have to read British papers to get Ft. Hood jihadist news?!
This selective reporting by MSM damages our nation.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 11/11/2009
- waldenpp I'm a Fan of waldenpp 2 fans permalink

unbelievable, not sure what the goal here is but we are losing track of an incredible internal danger - if you dont see what this act was all about than you deserve to get sma cked

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 11/11/2009
- PhDiva I'm a Fan of PhDiva 20 fans permalink

Gee that's a helpful perspective. You are going to advocate more violence? The investigation is ongoing. It's irresponsible to call it terrorist. Are we going to call Christian ideological extremists terrorists? If not, this guy just isn't a terrorist. He's a mentally ill man who committed a horrid individual act or violence.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 11/11/2009
- huffposeur I'm a Fan of huffposeur 20 fans permalink

the tin ear obama displayed in this speech and at the medicine crow shout out will be just two of the things hillary clinton assails him with in the 2012 primaries -until he drops out in ignominy and make LBJ look like he was in it for the long haul.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 11/11/2009
- Gretel1or2 I'm a Fan of Gretel1or2 129 fans permalink

Thank you Mr. President for providing such a moving tribute to the families and loved ones of our fallen soldiers. I'm sure that the familes appreciated your support and felt comforted by your words.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 11/11/2009

First terrorist attack since 9/11, deficit tripled in 10 monthes, unemployment doubled in 10 months, polls show 60% of Americans feel the country is on the wrong track while 33% are optimistic, more troops have been deployed to Afghanistan with even more requested, anti - women amendment in the HC plan, jail time and penalities for not buying health insurance a possibility along with many other purposed threats to freedom, new taxes for all beginning with possible Cap and Tax bill. Though many of us were sold on all those pretty speeches, HRC was right: "learning on the job" doesn't cut it. HRC in 2012.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 AM on 11/11/2009
- Ramonne I'm a Fan of Ramonne 12 fans permalink

Is she all the democrats have left to defend against President Obama? NO Thanks, I will
vote to keep the present President.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 AM on 11/11/2009
- annie g I'm a Fan of annie g 27 fans permalink


Why not list Bush's "accomplishments". After all he was in office for 8 years.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:12 AM on 11/11/2009
- wedgie I'm a Fan of wedgie 17 fans permalink
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Your comments about people being jailed for not buying health insurance proves you are not an HRC supporter but instead a person who like 99% of the Republican Party seeks to block and damage the President in any way he/she can.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 AM on 11/11/2009

Does it make any difference if those comments are corrert?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 11/11/2009
- nikflorida I'm a Fan of nikflorida 4 fans permalink
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um... the poll numbers you quote are a vast improvement since last year, the imperfect health reform is the result of getting it past obstinate opposition, and the "new taxes" are designed to impress people with the REAL cost of their irresponsible actions. Keep in mind that only those who continue to act irresponsibly are liable for those taxes. None of the things you mention have much to do with the POTUS, and they all have their roots in the Republican Party's leaders and the previous POTUS's policies, not the current POTUS. If you wish to criticize the POTUS and the Dems' actions, there's plenty to criticize, but not like that. In fact, you've mentioned none of them. A flawed health reform is better than none, no? Just as minimal coverage is better than none, which is what millions of Americans (who cares whether it's 2 or 200... it's MILLIONS) now face.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 11/11/2009
- PhDiva I'm a Fan of PhDiva 20 fans permalink

This poster is lying. He is a republican.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 11/11/2009

This was a beautiful and moving speech.

For me, the most profound moment was this:

"We are a nation that guarantees the freedom to worship as one chooses. And instead of claiming God for our side, we remember Lincoln's words, and always pray to be on the side of God."

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 AM on 11/11/2009
- Lee Andrew I'm a Fan of Lee Andrew 299 fans permalink
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Yes, I agree. I learned that quote from Linclon when I was aboy and have always held it deep within my heart in a special place.

LeeAndrew

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 AM on 11/11/2009

It was very moving. I loved this part....

"Every evening that the sun sets on a tranquil town; every dawn that a flag is unfurled; every moment that an American enjoys life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - that is their legacy."

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:11 AM on 11/11/2009

I completely agree with you, and the two replies before mine, but I have to wonder how he could bring himself to say, "We are a nation that is dedicated to the proposition that all men and women are created equal. We live that truth within our military...," when the heinous policy of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" is still in effect.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 11/11/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 122 fans permalink
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He's eloquent; and his compassion's real, but there's a hollowness in some of his words, like the part where he says "no faith justifies....etc." almost as if he's on the one hand apologizing for his own Muhslim roots and at the same time trying to make us believe that he believes this was a faith-driven act.

This wasn't a "faith"-driven act, any f00l can see this. This was the act of a man driven out of his mind by a) a job he couldn't cope with, b) insults and discrimination, c) the horrors of war reflected everywhere he turned and d) the prospect of finding himself with other soldiers, some of whom might make his life misery in a place called he// (ie war), where they're k1lling people with whom he shares the bond of ethnicity, and yes, faith (but the faith part is ancillary, or secondary).

So why make a big deal of the "faith" issue then? Because you want to make a statement, maybe? And that statement is the "false" basis used to justify these wars: fundamentalism. Is he trying to say the guy went ins@ne because he was pursuing his faith with more conviction than for instance "the shopkeeper" whom he invited occasionally to Friday prayers? It's ridiculous to try and pin this on faith when so many "environmental" factors were contributing to his demise including the fact that he was unhappy with his transfer and had no real family support system.

...continued

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:46 AM on 11/11/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 122 fans permalink
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Let's be honest here the man was on the brink of a "nervous breakdown" if not immersed in it and was "clinging" to his faith as many do here to try and "escape" that reality or as strange as it seems find strength or some kind of answer there. This Hasan reminds me of the mother who had 5 children and was not coping with motherhood and heard God tell her to drown them in the bathtub to save them from some ev!l destiny.

So no...Obama's not being honest when he states this. He's using the same old tired Bush line that rallies the forces and the right towards another escalation. It's just plain pathetic that he would go down that same road!

Yes he was eloquent, yes he was compassionate, but I just don't believe him when he makes this statement and I don't even think he believes it! Again, pathetic and manipulative. Obama's losing himself to hold on to power. He's a total disappointment. He's eloquent and intelligent, and has compassion, but then he turns around and sells himself to power. It's true what they say about politicians, their at the top of the "dishonest" list.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 AM on 11/11/2009

You base this on your closeness to POTUS. That's what your in depth analysis on hours of personal interviews and your years of phycological training tell you. ?????

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 AM on 11/11/2009
- JBoy I'm a Fan of JBoy 4 fans permalink
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Ignoring the fact that Hasan communicated with known terrorists is simply denial. Someone in the Department of Defense blew it big-time!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 11/11/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 122 fans permalink
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Provide credible link and facts. The "FBeeEye" reported no links and you know better? On CNN they had it in yellow as "breaking news" "fbeye states no links to t.err0r.ist groups" but then at the same time cnn was busy inflating their own story to make it seem like maybe there was a guy who frequented the same church but oops in different years! Still they plant the seed of doubt where there is none, and you Mr. gullible fall right into the trap. Why? Maybe you should ask yourself that question. Maybe this country should ask itself that question. Looking for answers within ourselves usually leads us to a better place. Unfortunately, that's the last place we look to get answers. It's so much easier to point the finger at someone else.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 11/11/2009
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 10 fans permalink

You are stupid!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 AM on 11/11/2009
- Lee Andrew I'm a Fan of Lee Andrew 299 fans permalink
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You are an insenstive neaderthal.
I and the majority of this nation salute the CiC and the fallen brothers of the 3rd corps.

You should seek help.

LeeAndrew DAV

CPT

173rd ARM RECON CAV (18^983-1989)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:11 AM on 11/11/2009

You are soo missing the point..........this is to anyone who would think that THEIR faith justifies this action. This guy did act on faith.please broaden your horizon!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 AM on 11/11/2009
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Very nice speech. Prayers to the victims' families.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 11/11/2009
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/05/eveningnews/main5541051.shtml

http://www.krdo.com/global/story.asp?s=11474593

Not that I think this will give the perspective to the tr0//s that I hope....But here read this.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 11/11/2009
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No perspective needed. The news coming out about Mr. Hasan is speaking for itself.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 11/11/2009
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Like what? Like he was harassed for his beliefs by the very people he was trying to help? or just the fact that he was Muslim? Is that really the end of it? Look at my links, those people K1//ed more, but they were of a certain Ethnic back ground....If what was done was Errorism, than all k1//ing FOR any reason is errorism. I mean heck, don't the christies fighting in Iraq say they are doing GAWDS work?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 11/11/2009
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Like what? Like he was haras sed for his beliefs by the very people he was trying to help? or just the fact that he was Mu sli m? Is that really the end of it? Look at my links, those peopleK 1 // e dmore, but they were of a certain Eth nic back ground....If what was done was Errorism, than all k 1 // ing FOR any reason is errorism. I mean heck, don't the christies fighting in Iraq say they are doing GAWDS work?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 AM on 11/11/2009
- Iam12Vote I'm a Fan of Iam12Vote 22 fans permalink
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Something is seriously wrong.

War is violence. But of course hiding the truth about war has been the basis for this entire operation.

Don't tell the truth about the cause for war. Don't put war spending in the budget. Don't show us pictures of our war dead. Don't admit to friendly fire. Don't count Iraqi or Afghani casualties. Don't mention the growing number of wounded. Don't acknowledge the contributions of our allies. Don't discuss the number of shattered vets who can never come home from war. Don't face the cost of care for a generation of soldiers. Don't take responsibility for a lack of responsibility.

And then wonder why something is seriously wrong.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 AM on 11/11/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 122 fans permalink
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Fanned.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 AM on 11/11/2009
- skialethia I'm a Fan of skialethia 122 fans permalink
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Glad to see someone here is using their God-given brain.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 11/11/2009
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Anti Muslim backlash? WTF?

With no domestic pogrom backlash after 9/11, no pogrom backlash after Bali, no pogrom backlash after Madrid, no pogrom backlash after London, no pogrom backlash after Mumbai, no backlash after countless other Jihad attacks, why would there be any reason to believe the reaction would be any different in this case? US citiznes have already passed this particular civility test.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:31 AM on 11/11/2009
- mama4obama I'm a Fan of mama4obama 29 fans permalink

I was very proud of the President and First Lady at Fort Hood today. I listened to the service via CSPAN and I can honestly say that I choked up a bit while listening to his speech at work today. Seeing the footage of how President Obama and Mrs. Obama went to each photo and helmet tribute and left a coin choked me up again this evening when I got home. The young lady that sang " Amazing Grace " really got to me as well, listening to her voice echo in the complete silence of the people attending the service. God Bless the fallen and their families.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 11/10/2009

Touching and Sad. I hope one day, humanity can erase misery off the face of the earth.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 11/10/2009
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well first step is to stop being an aggressor and invading sovereign nations...just because you CAN.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 11/10/2009

And based on Lies.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 11/10/2009
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Or the UN can quit passing resolutions it is unwilling to enforce and just let it go.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 11/11/2009
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Then, you best to organize a nation of voters not to put another republican in office.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 11/11/2009
- Ramonne I'm a Fan of Ramonne 12 fans permalink

Humanity can never do that. There is too much greed and need in this world today.
There is one who will bring peace some day, in His own time, in His own Name.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 AM on 11/11/2009
- AJBF I'm a Fan of AJBF 10 fans permalink

Obama said: "We are a nation dedicated to the proposition that all men and women are created equal..... We live that truth in our military (unless you are gay or lesbian)...... We defend that truth at home (really?! - like keeping silent when gay people need your help and support in Maine) and abroad....­...America­ns will always be found on the side of truth and equality (except marriage equality)......This is who we are as a people (as long as we are not dealing with glbt people)"

Very pretty words, but they sounded hollow and phony to my ears.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 11/10/2009
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Did the words "weapons of mass destruction" and "mission accomplished" sound solid and truthful to your ears?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 11/11/2009
- AJBF I'm a Fan of AJBF 10 fans permalink

Not at all. What's the connection?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 11/11/2009
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It is very sad to me that the LGBT community holds this man accountable for 16 years of discrimination of the LGBT community in the military. I don't know if you've noticed, but his plate has been a bit full since he took office nearly 10 months ago.

WOMEN fought to get the right to vote for 72 years and the Liddy Ledbetter Fair Pay Act was just signed into law in 2009 after 36 years of employers gipping women of equal pay for equal work. Hell, women spent over 70 years fighting for the right to vote and you've been fighting for your rights for how long??

In regards to gay marriage, as somebody who has chosen co-habitation instead of marriage because the piece of paper can never replace my personal commitment to my partner, I have no more rights than a gay couple does when it comes to insurance and power of attorney or property rights. I guess you could argue that this is my choice, but I don't understand how a piece of paper can trump love.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 11/11/2009
- Lee Andrew I'm a Fan of Lee Andrew 299 fans permalink
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co-signed ... and I am LGBT CEO of human rights foundation. I agree with you on principle but I am thinking strongly about my grandmothers teaching. She once said, " A man who compalins about what we did wrong rather than what we can do togehter to accomplsih our goals does not serve humanity.'

Also I am thinking that the original commenter is a teabagger not a LGBT activist.

LeeAndrew

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 AM on 11/11/2009
- AJBF I'm a Fan of AJBF 10 fans permalink

I'm not holding Obama accountable for 16 years of discrimination in the military. I'm holding him accountable for not ending it like he promised he would. All it would take is an executive order with his signature. That's how Truman ended racial segregation in the military in 1948. Need I say what the outcome would have been at that time if Truman had left it to legislative action or to the will of the people? The very same arguments used today to uphold DADT, eg, unit cohesion, morale, etc., were used to justify segregation in the military.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 11/11/2009
- KIVPossum I'm a Fan of KIVPossum 43 fans permalink
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I think most people on HP are firmly in support of gay rights.

But Jebus, everything isn't a case of the whole world against glbt.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:49 AM on 11/11/2009
- Lee Andrew I'm a Fan of Lee Andrew 299 fans permalink
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Spot on. I agree. This is a provocation, nothing more, nothing less and as an LGBT activist this tactic if genuine is starting to irk my last and final nerve. Americablog need also to take a chill pill.

LeeAndrew

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 AM on 11/11/2009
- AJBF I'm a Fan of AJBF 10 fans permalink

You are putting words in my mouth. If you think the majority of people on HP support gay rights you have not been paying attention: just read the exasperation of so many here and the virulent homophobic comments all over these boards anytime the subject comes up. Wonder how such people would be reacting if it was THEIR rights that were being trampled on.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 11/11/2009
- Lee Andrew I'm a Fan of Lee Andrew 299 fans permalink
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You are weaving somethin which should not nor ought to be woven into this thread nor in public discourse - I too am a firm supporter and member of the LGBT community but it is only part of the sum of my whole. The gretaer focus ought always be the betterment of humanity --- that being said it is people like you who attack this president ad DEMAND action now as if he can wave a magic wane and all discrimination evaporates or unjust laws enacted by his predessesors. No, it don't work like that - that dog don't hunt here.

Take a chill and some advice from a senior military officer - one battle at a time because fighting too many means you loose all.

The purpose of this thread is to speak about the fallen warriors and the ceremony not to engage in a catfight about LGBT rights. (And yes I have a strong opinion about that)

Standdown, move on.

CPT LeeAndrew
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    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 AM on 11/11/2009
- AJBF I'm a Fan of AJBF 10 fans permalink

You seem to be ignorant of the fact that all it would take to end discrimination against glbt people in the military would be an executive order from President Obama. That's all it took for President Truman to end segregation in the military in 1948. He didn't leave it to the legislative process or to the will of the people. He just ended it because as Commander in Chief he had the authority to do so.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 11/11/2009

Having a few Liberals does not make a Network Liberal. MSNBC had Don Imus for years and took too long to fire him. CNBC is not Liberal. They hook up with WSJ and Politico. And all of their morning shows are conservative. NBC is far from Liberal.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 11/10/2009
- unclelew I'm a Fan of unclelew 22 fans permalink

Just visited the Washington Post site. Cannot believe the number of vile comments directed towards Obama by Repubs and Tea Baggers. The hatred against the president is palpable. Somehow they think the president is directly responsible for the slaughter. The tone and calls for violence in the postings are truly alarming.
It's hard not to believe that this is an astroturf attack co-ordinated by fake organizations like Freedom Works.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 11/10/2009
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To clarify.

They do NOT feel he is responsible b/c they know that's a lie.

They feel, hope and pray that they can USE the deaths of American servicemen and women to attack our president.

They will use anything, they will demean and defame the memories of these fine soldiers, in their hysteric obsession with attacking Obama.

Let them take down the entire Republican party and then perhaps they will self-immolate from their own hatred.

If you want to talk about sick and twisted, look beyond the Fort Hood shooter to those who spew hatred against the president.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 AM on 11/11/2009
- KIVPossum I'm a Fan of KIVPossum 43 fans permalink
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""to attack our president""

Exactly. These people are willing to do anything, crawl to new lows, to attack Obama and indirectly those who support him. They will do anything, even if it is against the best interests of America, to undermine him.

If Obama could suddenly supply high paid jobs to all, a booming housing market, two cars in every garage, and a chicken in every pot, they would find something to complain about.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:55 AM on 11/11/2009

Hm, this sounds like what the Dems did during the Bush presidency

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 AM on 11/11/2009
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