NYC Terror Trial Poses Legal, Political Risks

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DEVLIN BARRETT | 11/14/09 09:24 PM | AP

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WASHINGTON — In a move both politically and legally risky, the Obama administration plans to put on trial the professed mastermind of the Sept. 11 terror attacks and four alleged accomplices in a lower Manhattan courthouse.

The venue for the biggest trial in the age of terrorism means prosecutors must balance difficult issues such as rough treatment of detainees and sensitive intelligence-gathering with the Justice Department's desire to prove that the federal courts are able to handle terrorism cases.

Attorney General Eric Holder announced the decision Friday to bring Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four others detained at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to trial in a courtroom barely a thousand yards from the site of the World Trade Center's twin towers they are accused of destroying.

Trying the men in civilian court will bar evidence obtained under duress and complicate a case where anything short of slam-dunk convictions will empower President Barack Obama's critics. U.S. civilian courts prohibit evidence obtained through coercion, and a number of detainees were questioned using harsh methods some call torture.

Holder insisted both the court system and the untainted evidence against the five men are strong enough to deliver a guilty verdict and the penalty he expects to seek: a death sentence for the deaths of nearly 3,000 people who were killed when four hijacked jetliners slammed into the towers, the Pentagon and a field in western Pennsylvania.

"After eight years of delay, those allegedly responsible for the attacks of September the 11th will finally face justice. They will be brought to New York – to New York," Holder repeated for emphasis, "to answer for their alleged crimes in a courthouse just blocks away from where the twin towers once stood."

Holder said he decided to bring Mohammed and the other four before a civilian court rather than a military commission because of the nature of the undisclosed evidence against them, because the 9/11 victims were mostly civilians and because the attacks took place on U.S. soil.

Lawyers for the accused will almost certainly try to have charges thrown out based on the rough treatment of the detainees at the hands of U.S. interrogators, including the repeated waterboarding, or simulated drowning, of Mohammed.

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The question has been raised as to whether the government can make its case without using coerced confessions, but prosecutors have other evidence including a written confession from Mohammed and other statements and documents to bolster their case.

Held at Guantanamo since September 2006, Mohammed said in military proceedings there that he wanted to plead guilty and be executed to achieve what he views as martyrdom. In a letter from him released by the war crimes court, he referred to the attacks as a "noble victory" and urged U.S. authorities to "pass your sentence on me and give me no respite."

Holder insisted the case is on firm legal footing, but he acknowledged the political ground may be more shaky when it comes to bringing feared al-Qaida terrorists to U.S. soil.

"To the extent that there are political consequences, I'll just have to take my lumps," he said. But any political consequences will reach beyond Holder to his boss, Obama.

Bringing such notorious suspects to U.S. soil to face trial is a key step in Obama's plan to close the military-run detention center in Cuba. Obama initially planned to close the prison by next Jan. 22, but the administration is not expected to meet that deadline.

Obama said he is "absolutely convinced that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed will be subject to the most exacting demands of justice. The American people will insist on it and my administration will insist on it."

The five suspects headed to New York are likely to face thousands of counts of murder and conspiracy. Mohammed and the four others – Waleed bin Attash, Ramzi Binalshibh, Mustafa Ahmad al-Hawsawi and Ali Abd al-Aziz Ali – are all accused of orchestrating the 2001 attacks.

The government also announced five other Guantanamo detainees, including the alleged mastermind of the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, would be sent to military commissions to face charges.

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Associated Press writers Pete Yost, Mark Sherman and Jesse J. Holland in Washington, David B. Caruso in New York and Ben Fox and Mike Melia in San Juan contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — In a move both politically and legally risky, the Obama administration plans to put on trial the professed mastermind of the Sept. 11 terror attacks and four alleged accomplices in ...
WASHINGTON — In a move both politically and legally risky, the Obama administration plans to put on trial the professed mastermind of the Sept. 11 terror attacks and four alleged accomplices in ...
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- JBVT I'm a Fan of JBVT 3 fans permalink

America, continue your internecine war.

These murderers will end dying in jail.

Prior to trial.

We are but a helpless, foundering giant...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 11/16/2009

Change and Hope...appears to be the new mantra in Washington.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 11/15/2009
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Je'sus...

You guys still here?

Seek says hi....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 AM on 11/15/2009
- EconPadawan I'm a Fan of EconPadawan 268 fans permalink
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Some of us never leave. =)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 AM on 11/15/2009
- Darren2Be I'm a Fan of Darren2Be 38 fans permalink
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Ya know the way it flows in this particular stream..Riled and roiling the uniformed and insentient..

And then..there's the river..Cra­zy..immers­ed in the embrace...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ3LOu9IK7Y

The wind...

With wond'rous grace...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 AM on 11/15/2009
- EconPadawan I'm a Fan of EconPadawan 268 fans permalink
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Farewell Hpers. Sleep well.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 AM on 11/15/2009
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Naaaaa D1 just some prickly pears that reminded me of some decisions taken by a young bride that I married before my deployment in 79.........
I'll share about my daughter and my granddaughter, I don't talk about my military duty......b/c it was my duty..

I was actually signing off but for you I felt I had to explain my post.......There was another song I recieved in Beruit that brought on that post not Rush.........

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 AM on 11/15/2009
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Tommorrow D1...........

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 AM on 11/15/2009
- Dreamers101 I'm a Fan of Dreamers101 187 fans permalink
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I read this CK this morning my man if you check back?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 11/15/2009
- GypsyRose I'm a Fan of GypsyRose 43 fans permalink

Goodnight (or morning) ladies and gents, a good time!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 AM on 11/15/2009
- Dreamers101 I'm a Fan of Dreamers101 187 fans permalink
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Well it's time folks that last Donnie and Marie post did it for me ;~)

CK if you are still here my man I would like to hear your story brodie?

Good night all

~Dreamers

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 AM on 11/15/2009
- EconPadawan I'm a Fan of EconPadawan 268 fans permalink
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You're all a bunch of lightweights! (I mean that in a non disparaging way) In college I was always the last one at the party to go to bed. I'm not sure if that was good or bad but hey, at least it gave me bragging rights. lol

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 AM on 11/15/2009
- cavegal I'm a Fan of cavegal 194 fans permalink
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Well us redheads are known for burning the midnight oil!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 AM on 11/15/2009
- EconPadawan I'm a Fan of EconPadawan 268 fans permalink
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Exactly! We tend to do our best thinking at night. (that's my excuse anyway) I have never been a morning person. I get cranky in the morning. lol

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 AM on 11/15/2009
- GypsyRose I'm a Fan of GypsyRose 43 fans permalink

You tell 'im. Redheads are always fun as are certain, ahem, blondes. ;)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 AM on 11/15/2009
- Dreamers101 I'm a Fan of Dreamers101 187 fans permalink
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You maybe burning a little something else to Cavey :))

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 AM on 11/15/2009
- Dreamers101 I'm a Fan of Dreamers101 187 fans permalink
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CK my brother real men don't cry do they? That Rush song almost did it for me :(

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 AM on 11/15/2009
- GypsyRose I'm a Fan of GypsyRose 43 fans permalink

Brett Favre cries all the time, heh heh...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 AM on 11/15/2009
- PepeLepew I'm a Fan of PepeLepew 288 fans permalink
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I find the last unmoderated thread on ALL of HP and everyone is sleepy ... including me.
It's sooo late....

I leave you with this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7AHblQ3_oM

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 AM on 11/15/2009
- Dreamers101 I'm a Fan of Dreamers101 187 fans permalink
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Night Pepe and thanks for coming in to say hello...

~Dreamers

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 AM on 11/15/2009
- Darren2Be I'm a Fan of Darren2Be 38 fans permalink
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Pepe. .. bon rêve

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:42 AM on 11/15/2009
- cavegal I'm a Fan of cavegal 194 fans permalink
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I better not wake up to another dang Palinator thread tomorrow! Lord that woman is getting way too much attention these days!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 AM on 11/15/2009
- EconPadawan I'm a Fan of EconPadawan 268 fans permalink
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It's all part of the campaign to paint her as the new face of the GOP. They are succeeding.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 AM on 11/15/2009
- GypsyRose I'm a Fan of GypsyRose 43 fans permalink

Ok, who knows this one, a kewpie doll for the winner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ivUOnnstpg
.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 AM on 11/15/2009
- alienator I'm a Fan of alienator 43 fans permalink
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my eyelids are taking over my eyes.....its been real fun everybody....and to all my new friends i leave this final tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIKBq9TeFlw

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 AM on 11/15/2009
- EconPadawan I'm a Fan of EconPadawan 268 fans permalink
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Take it easy alienator.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 AM on 11/15/2009
- Dreamers101 I'm a Fan of Dreamers101 187 fans permalink
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Good morning :)

~Dreamers

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 AM on 11/15/2009
- cavegal I'm a Fan of cavegal 194 fans permalink
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Thank goodness for friends and a good blunt!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 AM on 11/15/2009
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Time to go....it's been great my friends.....but this one is for you Econ.....I am off to do this right now!

Peace my friends.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rptpNiT7aQ

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 AM on 11/15/2009
- EconPadawan I'm a Fan of EconPadawan 268 fans permalink
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Perfect!! Let us burn one from end to end. =)

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 AM on 11/15/2009
- Dreamers101 I'm a Fan of Dreamers101 187 fans permalink
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Peace Wolf

One love out!

~Dreamers

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 AM on 11/15/2009
- cavegal I'm a Fan of cavegal 194 fans permalink
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Yeah stop bogarting the bowl!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 AM on 11/15/2009
- GypsyRose I'm a Fan of GypsyRose 43 fans permalink

Peace, Wolf, nice song ♥. See above just for funzies! Sweet dreams...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 AM on 11/15/2009
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