Obama Pushing Arms Control With Russians On Asia Trip

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JENNIFER LOVEN | 11/14/09 11:35 PM | AP

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SINGAPORE — President Barack Obama and other world leaders agreed Sunday that next month's much-anticipated climate change summit will be merely a way station, not the once hoped-for end point, in the search for a worldwide global warming treaty.

The 192-nation climate conference beginning in three weeks in Copenhagen had originally been intended to produce a new global climate-change treaty. Hopes for that have dimmed lately. But comments by Obama and fellow leaders at a hastily arranged breakfast meeting here on the sidelines of an Asia-Pacific summit served to put the final nail in any remaining expectations for the December summit.

"There was an assessment by the leaders that it is unrealistic to expect a full internationally, legally binding agreement could be negotiated between now and Copenhagen which starts in 22 days," said Michael Froman, Obama's deputy national security adviser for international economic matters.

The prime minister of Denmark, Lars Loekke Rasmussen, the U.N.-sponsored climate conference's chairman, flew overnight to Singapore to present a proposal to the leaders to instead make the Copenhagen goal a matter of crafting a "politically binding" agreement, in hopes of rescuing some future for the struggling process.

A fully binding legal agreement would be left to a second meeting next year in Mexico City, Froman said.

Obama backed the approach, cautioning the group not to let the "perfect be the enemy of the good," Froman said. Addressing the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum later, Obama talked of the need to limit greenhouse-gas emissions "in Copenhagen and beyond."

Froman said the Danish proposal would call for Copenhagen to produce "operational impact," but he did not explain how that would work or to what it would apply.

Despite the cooperative-sounding words, the two-year process of crafting a landmark treaty has been stymied by deep distrust between rich, developed nations and poorer developing nations such as India, Brazil and China.

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The developed nations hold that all countries must agree to legally binding targets to reduce heat-trapping gases. Developing countries say they can make reductions a goal but not a requirement, and they want more money from wealthy nations to help them make the transition.

A major bill dealing with energy and climate in the U.S., a domestic priority of Obama's, is bogged down in the U.S. Senate with scant hope it would be completed by next month, giving the American president little to show in Copenhagen.

Between that and the developments in Singapore, there may be little reason for Obama to travel there. White House aides had been saying privately that the outcome of talks during Obama's weeklong Asia trip, including a three-day visit to China that starts Sunday night, would help determine whether Obama might go to Copenhagen.

Obama arrived late Saturday night in Singapore for the annual 21-nation APEC summit that had begun without him early that morning. In remarks to the group Sunday, Obama reached out by announcing that he would host the 2011 gathering in his native Hawaii.

But on trade – the subject of most interest to rapidly growing, commerce-happy East and Southeast Asia – Obama had a good-news, bad-news message. He said the U.S. would engage with nations in a Trans Pacific free-trade partnership to shape a new regional agreement, a move seen as crucial to creating a possible Asia-Pacific free trade zone.

But he said the pact must have broad-based membership and "the high standards worthy of a 21st century trade agreement." He also sounded a sterner note, cautioning that Asia's export-led growth must give way to more balanced strategies.

His chief focus, though, was more on side meetings, including one later Sunday with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev where he hoped to nudge forward a major new arms-control pact. The two nations are in talks on a successor to a Cold War-era agreement that expires in December.

Obama also was sitting down with Indonesia's Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, president of the world's largest Muslim nation and Obama's home as a boy.

And the president planned another milestone: joining a larger meeting of the 10-nation Association of Southeast Asian Nations that includes the leader of military-ruled Myanmar, also known as Burma. Obama is sure to face criticism at home, particularly from conservatives, for doing so.

In a final communique from that meeting, ASEAN leaders devoted a whole section to Myanmar. While the document calls for a general election in Myanmar next year to "conducted in a free, fair, inclusive and transparent manner in order to be credible to the international community" it makes no mention of the release of political prisoners.

Obama, in a broad policy speech in Tokyo on Saturday, made a point of mentioning Aung San Suu Kyi by name and others imprisoned for political reasons.

But the leaders' statement does not make any mention of political prisoners – including Nobel Peace laureate Suu Kyi, who has spent 14 of the last 20 years in detention. The omission is glaring, given the U.S. had insisted on the inclusion of the clause in a previous draft.

It marks a significant step in his administration's policy of "pragmatic engagement," which is a shift from years of U.S. isolation and sanctions. A U.S. president has never met with a leader of the Burmese junta, one of the world's worst human-rights offenders.

Despite the new engagement, the Obama administration has said sanctions will not be lifted unless Myanmar's rulers make democratic progress. Obama aides and Asia experts have defended the administration's new gamble, while admitting it may not succeed.

"One definition of insanity is to do the same thing over and over and expect a different outcome," said Jeffrey Bader, Obama's top Asia adviser.

Obama and Medvedev agreed in April to reach a new nuclear arms reduction treaty to replace and expand upon the 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty before it expires on Dec. 5. Later, in Moscow in July, they agreed further to cut the number of nuclear warheads each nation possesses to between 1,500 and 1,675 within seven years.

U.S. officials say the two nations now have agreed on the broad outlines of a new treaty, which might be signed during Obama's travels to Europe in early December to accept the Nobel Peace Prize.

Such an agreement would further Obama's promise to work toward a nuclear-free world, offering momentum for other arms-control and nonproliferation efforts. It also could boost relations with Russia as Washington seeks its cooperation on issues including reining in Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Negotiators have agreed on the number of U.S. and Russian warheads, the number of delivery systems and what will count as a delivery system, officials said. The remaining issues involve how to verify that each side is in compliance, they said.

Ben Rhodes, deputy national security adviser to Obama, said the leaders talks could encourage the final breakthrough.

The existing START treaty led each country to cut its nuclear warheads by at least one-quarter, to about 6,000. The later 2002 Treaty of Moscow specified further cuts to between 1,700 and 2,200 operationally deployed warheads by 2012. The U.S. now has about 2,200 such warheads deployed, compared to about 2,800 for the Russians.

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Associated Press writers Desmond Butler in Washington and Charles Hutzler and Vijay Joshi in Singapore contributed to this report.

SINGAPORE — President Barack Obama and other world leaders agreed Sunday that next month's much-anticipated climate change summit will be merely a way station, not the once hoped-for end point, ...
SINGAPORE — President Barack Obama and other world leaders agreed Sunday that next month's much-anticipated climate change summit will be merely a way station, not the once hoped-for end point, ...
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- New aznurse I'm a Fan of aznurse 50 fans permalink

I support President Obama 100%, but those shirts seem one step away from "Snuggies"

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 11/15/2009
- MacQ I'm a Fan of MacQ 41 fans permalink

Arms reduction story, and posters are all about the shirt.
Figures.

Arms reduction talks with the russians will result in agreements by each side to reduce nuclear aresenals from that required to destroy the earth 10 times over down to 5 times over.
Obama will claim a victory. Putin will be laughing and thinking maybe there is a God after all.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 11/15/2009
- iceage7 I'm a Fan of iceage7 116 fans permalink

Watch the trolls..he is wearing a mao shirt

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 11/15/2009
- VTya I'm a Fan of VTya 19 fans permalink

Watch the right wing nuts use this pic in the next election campaign to prove he's a communist.

I suspect, with his kind of humor, he probably did it just for them !!!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 PM on 11/15/2009
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New blog post: An Open Letter To President Obama: http://ow.ly/CjLh

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 11/15/2009
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U.S. government has zero interest in reduction of nuclear weapons treaty with Russia. Anyone who looked at the record can easily ascertain this for themselves.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 AM on 11/15/2009
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Well,,, could you at least summarize 'The Record'....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 11/15/2009

Tovarich.
I see your President has discovered my shirt Taylor in Bangkok.
A Long- Sleeved Silk Shirt with a Mandarin Collar is a sight to behold. They come in a variety of stunning colors.
With a Squared Bottom they can be worn inside or outside the Trousers.
Very elegant indeed ( specially when worn with a Shanghai Silk Suit ).
Your President is a man of style, very refreshing.

Boris

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 11/14/2009
- Philclock I'm a Fan of Philclock 34 fans permalink
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The dithering blitherer is clear on one thing only: America sucks.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 11/14/2009
- Tulka2 I'm a Fan of Tulka2 227 fans permalink
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Sigh.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 AM on 11/15/2009
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Your pundits and pols gave you narrative; that we've already heard a thousand times already...
But you and your (R) cousins insist on parroting this drivel -- due to your lack of ability to comprehend, analysis and critique with your on grey matter...

'Did you hear that ?...... Dick Cheney said 'dither'....Let's write that down and repeat it everywhere until it sinks in'

Well at least y'all all off the teleprompter chant. or are YOU ?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 AM on 11/15/2009

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/11/obama-emperor-akihito-japan.html

How low will he go? Obama gives Japan's Emperor Akihito a wow bow

Obama or Palin on tuesday's newswaves ?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 11/14/2009
- Tulka2 I'm a Fan of Tulka2 227 fans permalink
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James Bond would bow in that situation. Just saying. Obama is an educated, sophisticated, well-traveled leader. Thank the stars. I know the hill-billies don't like it, but what do they like outside the holler' ?

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 11/15/2009
- Muggersmom I'm a Fan of Muggersmom 2 fans permalink
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What a handsome gallant man we have for President , love the shirt, wow! That looks nice, like the red one also.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 11/14/2009
- Tulka2 I'm a Fan of Tulka2 227 fans permalink
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Styling...

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 AM on 11/15/2009
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Loving that shirt Mr. President. Nice. Very Nice!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:11 PM on 11/14/2009
- Chubbster I'm a Fan of Chubbster 30 fans permalink

When Barak smiles you know his heart is good.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 11/14/2009
- Tulka2 I'm a Fan of Tulka2 227 fans permalink
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My son and his wife are Democrats, but young, busy and not that into politics. My 15-month-old grandson has two favorite beings in the world... Elmo and Barak Obama. Somehow he convinced his daddy to take the Obama action figure out of the box (because, you know, it's only worth something "in the box"). The boy walks around with the Obama doll and comes running whenever he is on t.v. It's difficult not to be accused of "drinking the kool-aid" when you notice out loud how much children love Obama. But you have to notice.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 AM on 11/15/2009

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