New York Times:
The Obama administration is stepping up pressure on Pakistan to expand and reorient its fight against the Taliban and Al Qaeda, warning that failing to do so would undercut the new strategy and troop increase for Afghanistan that President Obama is preparing to approve, American officials say.
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I' M ....ALSO WISHING ...MORE FROM OUR ...GOVT. [ OBAMA'S W. H. ] ON ..TERROR ....ARE WE
THE GOVT. BECOMING MORE ...COMPLACENT ?........UNAWARENESS TO HIDEN DANGERS.. ?
man thats like coming into someone crib eating all the grub breaking all the furniture then asking the home owner to clean up your mess wow
why should they ? They didnt start this so called war on Terror I say F the USA if I was them
spoken like a true Iefty Iiberal or AQ.
hmm probably because their military harbored and supported terrorists for a long time. Pakistan was the only country that recognized Taliban prior to 9/11. Majority of the terrorists in the world today are trained (and to some extent encouraged by their army) in Pakistan.
These are the reasons why Pakistan has to pay the price and step up their efforts in the war against terror.
this is like asking the teabaggers too step it up against the k l a n
Pakistan was always the prize and prime target for al-Qaeda and the Taliban, that's why Bush attacked Iraq..!
We're still listening to the generals who thought attacking Iraq, was a nifty idea...!
I don't trust this report from the New York Times. First of all, I can't read the report. Secondly, it's coming from the New York Times, which still hasn't changed its famously belligerent tone on the foreign wars. I won't take the word of any publication on what President Obama's military plans are. I will wait for the President to say them directly. The increase in military personnel was still being deliberated, last I heard. The role of the mercenaries is complicating things. Is BlackWater/Xe still creating problems?
What we get are selected leaks in order to either fly a trial baloon.
Or more likely, to support the leaker's position.
You shouldn't ignore them.
Just take it all with plenty of salt.
The only way to save the world is to drop the big one on Pakistan and take out the AQ bee hive.
You are aware that Pakistan is armed with something between 70-90 nuclear warheads?
Yes..thats why Pre-emptive str!ke is in order. Mind you, Pakistan has not ruled out first strike.
Thats the only way you can save the world.
Nuclear Holocaust: That's the solution?
Wonder why President Obama hasn't thought of that?
Because it is S-T-U-P-I-D.
Pakistan has invited this on themselves. They are a terr0rist nation. and their people are well behind their govt's terr0r as a state policy. they have brought this upon themselves when they felt that Terr0r and lsIamist tactics are valid tactics.
...where is the 'moronically ignorant' icon to click on? Flag as abusive?
AT THE "END OF HISTORY," POLITICS IS BECOMING AS PREDICTABLE AS THE WEATHER
The basis for this cliche' is that the biggest patterns, of how persons and governments tend to behave, give us the sense that we cannot predict but can increasingly forecast overall developments. Certain areas have climates where weather does not change much, there are no fronts or swift changes. In other areas, we can at best forecast temperatures and humidity for 1-3 days in advance. Think of "forecasts" and not "predictions" and you can make progress in understanding the likely developments in the years ahead. US politics can at best be forecast 1-3 years ahead because of the possibility of quick changes in national leaders.
The general forecast is that the Middle East is slowly settling down. The media has by nature to hype weather and political events, let's accept that and move on. Even Pres. Obama's behavior can be forecast because he is faced with challenges that by necessity have to be addressed with pragmatic problem-solving. As time goes on, he will take a more educational role with the public.
The US, NATO, Pakistan, will keep seeing that the lawless terrorists have no prospect of success and can only cause needless suffering. The obvious forecast is that all nations will keep learning to cooperate more and more.
Obama has one main task: don't let the Republicans back in the White House.
We can forecast what is likely to make that inevitable.
The only stable institutions in Pakistan is the military. At the end of this road we will have turned all of Pakistan against us and that includes the military. Sooner or later Pakistan will realize they do not need us as much as they need Chinese who will not be telling them what to do in exchange for a few billion $$.
As we escalate in Afghanistan, we assure destabilization in Pakistan. The US continues to try to dictate policy to sovereign nations. One more way to be offensive.
That is correct.
Pakistan is not a sovereign nation, It lost its sovereignity to the Taliban, AQ/ISI nexis long time ago. They don't even have a write on more than 70% of their alleged country.
Pakistan is not a sovereign nation, It lost its sovereignity to the TaIiban, AQ/ISI nexis long time ago. They don't even have a write on more than 70% of their alleged country.
A decent article, but leaving out another interesting aspect that never gets reported. China is in Afghanistan with a billion plus investment in copper. As it turns out, American troops will be basically providing the security while China possibly makes a good investment for their country long-term. If the US walks, China won't be getting their foot in the door to get all that copper. The US is not only making a manpower contribution, but spending millions to supposedly make the world a safer place. The China investment is potentially a good thing in that it will provide Afghan jobs, albeit not the best jobs in the world. If the Afghan people actually had an industry they might start to see less young men sign up to be terrorists, and instead want to see their country have stability and a future. Meanwhile what exactly is the US getting from all this? Why are we becoming the go-to soldiers for the entire world and getting nothing in return?
There may not be a perfect solution no matter how long Obama takes to ensure he is right. What I don't get is how all of a sudden this Afghan situation became so complex when apparently months ago it wasn't for Obama.
As David Axelrod said, President Obama is diligently studying the issues prior to making a committment, unlike his predecessor who was totally incompetent of perceiving much of anything and doing something about it...
You don't understand how 8 years of mismanagement and corruption made the decisions in Afghanistan more difficult?
Because we had 8 years of mismanagement and corruption.
...$100Bs of Afghan oil & gas were auctioned off while the world waited to see who the 'certified and legitimate' Executive would be to sign those extraction contracts...http://afghanistanpetroleum.com
"Uh, sure. We, and our nuclear weapons, that we feel compelled to remind you of, will get right on that".
Pakistan created their own problem. Their assistance helped the Taliban form and stay in power and their policies permitted Al Qaeda to use Pakistan to bring in money, supplies, and support.
Now, the monster they created has turned around and is biting them. Pakistan has to stand up and fight these radicals or they shall be consumed by them. Any sincere threat to their nuclear weapons could bring about their complete and utter destruction by the Western Nations, China, and India. China wold never permit them to fall into the hands of radicals, because many of them are Ughars, from China, and they could use a warhead against China. Ditto for China, and the the Western nations would have to attack Pakistan to destroy those weapons and their nuclear program were they to fall or be partially overrrun.
It was China who gave the nooks to Pakistan with the US overlooking the proliferation by the Chinese.
Its now coming to bite all three of these countries.,
You write as if Pakistan wasn't a huge diverse country full of different interest groups with competing interests.
It is rather a complicated place. Politically, culturally, economically. ethnicly.
And your dire predictions of the future are so much science fiction.
Well, not so much science.
Just fiction.
...they were doing just fine until the C.I.A. pushed BiBi in there to oust Musharraf, then they got BiBi's brazillionaire husband in power, and are bribing him to send the military against their own peoples. Instead, refugees on the ground say the military are shelling everything to rubble from a distance, and what do you suppose that will do to the 'strategic picture' from the US perspective? It will provide media photo-ops and damage assessments for the next round of $100B in 'emergency funding'...
It's a neo-con, the most successful con in human history. Roll with it.
http://www.wfp.org/stories/lets-get-online-billion-help-hungry-billion
Hot damn, we've got a nerve! Pakistan risks melting down, and it's social fabric is being shredded, all to rescue US from our ill-advised war - the war they told us not to start, only to be informed that if they didn't support us, we'd attack them, too.
Yeah....it did not happen like that.Pakistan created the Taliban and installed them in Afghanistan more than a decade ago.
...at the request of and with funding provided by the C.I.A., let's not forget...and there's a good likelihood the C.I.A. was behind the a$$a$$ination of M.A. JInnah and Liaquat Ali Khan, that brought the military jvnta into power in the first place...
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First Posted: 11-16-09 08:48 AM | Updated: 11-16-09 08:55 AM