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Yousaf Raza Gilani, Pakistan PM, Says Bin Laden Not In Pakistan

RAPHAEL G. SATTER and GREGORY KATZ   12/ 3/09 06:31 PM ET   AP

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LONDON — Pakistan's prime minister on Thursday defended his country's efforts in fighting terrorism, saying he didn't believe Osama bin Laden was in Pakistan and that Pakistani security forces had been successful in tackling terrorism within the country's borders.

Yousuf Raza Gilani, who was meeting with his British counterpart Gordon Brown in London, was responding to Brown's demands earlier that Pakistan needed to do more to find bin Laden.

"I doubt the information which you are giving is correct because I don't think Osama bin Laden is in Pakistan," Gilani said at a joint news conference.

"Pakistan is fighting the war on terrorism, and we have a good intelligence and defense cooperation with the United States," he said, adding that the U.S. and Britain have not provided any actionable intelligence about bin Laden's purported whereabouts.

Gilani also signaled his country's cautious response to President Barack Obama's new policy for Pakistan and Afghanistan by declining to endorse the U.S.-led troop surge. He said his government needs more information about Obama's plan to expand the U.S. military presence in Afghanistan and at the same time increase aid to Pakistan.

Gilani said Pakistan was looking into the policy announced by Obama on Tuesday, including the suggestion that more covert CIA resources would be deployed in Pakistan, where the central government faces a strong threat from Islamic extremists.

"Regarding the new policy of President Obama, we are studying that policy," Gilani said. "We need more clarity on it, and when we get more clarity on it, we can see what we can implement on that plan."

Unlike Brown, who strongly supports Obama's approach and is sending 500 more British troops to Afghanistan to augment the surge, Pakistani leaders had remained silent until Gilani's carefully worded comments.

Analysts said the lack of a public endorsement of U.S. policy is in part a response to rising anti-American sentiment in Pakistan that prevents national leaders from publicly embracing expanded U.S. aid – even if they need the support.

Since 2001, the U.S. has given the Pakistani army billions of dollars to try to get it to fight Islamic militants along the Afghan border. Starting last year, the U.S. began a sustained program of covert missile strikes against militant targets close to the border.

The results have been mixed. While the army has taken on the Pakistani Taliban, it has failed to go after Afghan Taliban leaders who base their operations in the tribal areas in the border region. At the same time, anti-Western sentiment, spurred by the security forces, has grown.

Many Western officials and analysts believe Pakistan is playing off both sides – accepting U.S. funds to crack down on Pakistani militants while tolerating the Afghan Taliban in the expectation that the radical Islamic movement will take power in Afghanistan once the Americans withdraw.

Shaun Gregory, an expert on Pakistani security at the University of Bradford in Britain, said the Pakistanis will take note of Obama's pledge to start bringing U.S. troops home from Afghanistan in July 2011.

"The Pakistanis are smart enough to read the signals coming out of Washington," Gregory said. "It seems to me that the army's longer-term strategy of broadly backing the Afghan Taliban is paying off now. They have their tails up."

Gilani said his government expects to learn more about U.S. plans when Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, visit Pakistan.

Gilani has been lukewarm to the idea of a troop surge, saying he fears it would merely push Afghan militants across the mountainous border region into Pakistan.

The U.S. and Britain have been putting pressure on Pakistan to root out the militants already on its side of the border, in a lawless area from which they frequently attack NATO and Afghan troops.

Senior U.S. officials, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, have castigated Pakistan for its failure to find al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden, believed by many to be hiding in tribal regions of Pakistan.

Gilani stressed Thursday that Pakistan has been "extremely successful" in tackling terrorism and that most Taliban terrorists are not in Pakistan but in neighboring Afghanistan.

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Associated Press Writer Christopher Brummitt in Islamabad, Pakistan contributed to this report.

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04:01 PM on 12/04/2009
We wouldn't be there in the first place without UNOCAL wanting a pipeline. The T-ban signed a deal with Paribas. Bin said he didn't do it in his first tape and that is the one that I believe. There were explosives in the buildings as proved by independent labs around the world. There is video that was won in court of a missile hitting the Pentagon. It is not a coincidence that Karzai was a UNOCAL employee or that his brother is a huge drug dealer. You are either dishonest or a jester for you to say it is not about oil.

EVERYTHING IS ABOUT OIL AND/OR MONEY AND POWER.
04:02 PM on 12/04/2009
In response to Durango.
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02:18 PM on 12/04/2009
He's playing it safe; Benazir Bhutto claimed in her Nov. 02, 2007 interview that OBL was dead and was assassinated shortly afterwards. http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/242.html
They'll look for him here, they'll lokk for him there, the ever elusive OBL.
11:43 AM on 12/04/2009
Do people honestly think that the threat to America and the world from Islamic Fundamentalists such as bin Ladin and Zawahiri is some kind of a joke?

Have so many people forgotten the events in NYC and Washington and Pennsylvania already?

Personally I get sick to my stomach when ever I see images of that day. And try to imagine the horror of the people caught in the Towers or even worse, the children in those planes that were driven into those Cowers.

Do people not know that the border region of Afghanistan and Pakistan is where these criminals have sought and been given refuge?

Whether bin Ladin is in Pakistan or the mountains of Afghanistan is hardly the point.

The point is that area is the refuge of the leadership of al Qaida and their allied groups. And until the leaders of that plot have been brought to justice the struggle against fanaticism must continue.

This is deadly serious business. As the graves of those who died on 9/11/01 testify to.

And as the bomb exploding in the Pakistani mosque yesterday is further proof.

I can respect differing opinions on how to deal with that threat. But not anyone who mocks or refuses to recognize that threat.
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05:22 PM on 12/04/2009
If you are naive enough to believe the UBL is still alive (the logistics of doing peritoneal or hemodialysis in a primative setting make that impossible) don't think others are.

Durango, Texas, I guess. I speculate that the state of Texas profits dearly from the military bases and the war related industries located there. If you are from (or now live in or lived in) Texas your hawk mentality is showing.

The "mastermind" of 911 KSM will stand trial. To continue spend billions of dollars following a ghost is disingenous and a waste of American blood, time, and money.
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10:23 AM on 12/04/2009
Oh, ALRIGHT.....
He's been staying in our guest room! He only comes out when we leave. Even though the bathroom is always water spattered ceilling to floor and the computer is left on AlJazeera website he does make great coffee so I'm not turning him in just yet.
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10:01 AM on 12/04/2009
Of course Bin Laden isn't in Pakistan he's down in Dallas Texas at the local hardware store greeting people!
09:37 AM on 12/04/2009
It took one hit on 9/11 by Saudi Arabian volunteers with carpet knives. After this domino fell, the USA has started a process of self-destruction which cannot be compared to any similar incident in history.
09:16 AM on 12/04/2009
bin Laden got a job on Wall St. and is currently engaged with shieks Bernanke and Geithner in destroying America from within, as intended.
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09:07 AM on 12/04/2009
Do we even know that he is alive any more? Nothing but poor quality audio tapes for years. He's a billionaire and can't afford a $300 digital camera? I think he may have been killed in 2002 and we just don't know it yet
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12:49 PM on 12/04/2009
He makes a more effective bogey man to rattle the threat warnings up, or to justify an invasion into Iraq, than he does a corpse.
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08:10 AM on 12/04/2009
And of course, we can believe everything HE says...
03:21 AM on 12/04/2009
The Pakistani army probably does not want to catch Bin Laden, because that could cut off their money pipeline from the US.
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01:56 AM on 12/04/2009
How many innocent human beings are being killed by the Drone attacks?
The Bush Doctrine continues....................................
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09:38 AM on 12/04/2009
How many innocent people have been killed by Al Qaeda and its "pals" in the past 10-years?
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Gidster
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12:51 PM on 12/04/2009
Uhh...The Bush Doctrine was preemptive war and invasion.

This is a continuation of the initial Afghan invasion.
01:10 AM on 12/04/2009
Obama, you stated things as fact that are directly contradicted by the report released by the 911 Commission. If you are going to take us to war, give us some transparency and don't lie to us. Release the redacted portions of the report. Call for the Sibel Edmonds hearings. Until you do these things, you no longer have my support.
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01:36 AM on 12/04/2009
For example? Are these statements already supported by released official documentation?
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01:46 AM on 12/04/2009
So how could the author of this 2005 paper know what Obama would say at West Point in 2009?

What I asked you is what did Obama say at West Point that contradicted the 9/11 Commission report that wasn't already info. released subsequently.

Not things that contradict Obama about Afghanistan but "Obama, you stated things as fact that are directly contradicted by the report released by the 911 Commission".
01:51 AM on 12/04/2009
Obama said that the attacks were planned and staged from Afghanistan.

Bob Graham who was on the commission, but quit because of people covering things up, said that in the redacted part of the report it says that the attacks could not have taken place without the help of very high officials in the SA government. He made a rhyme to indicate that country.
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12:47 AM on 12/04/2009
"Brown, who strongly supports Obama's approach and is sending 500 more British troops to Afghanistan to augment the surge"

In his first year of office, President Obama orders TWICE more troops to Afghanistan. The first time was about 20,000 and this time is about 30,000.

And Britian "strongly supports" this with 1% of that number.

It's Bush's coalition of the willing all over again...
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12:56 PM on 12/04/2009
At least there is a definitive plan now.
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Cinnamonape
12:47 AM on 12/04/2009
Welllll.... If the Pakistani's are claiming that bin Laden is no longer in Pakistan, and that they have, in fact, eliminated any Al Qaida strongholds in their nation then....

...why the hell are we supporting them with military aid?
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01:03 AM on 12/04/2009
It's a bribe.

How else would a government tolerate a foreign government sending drones to kill people (sometimes civilians) in its territory? Especially, when this is really pI$$ing off the people of Pakistan?
01:07 AM on 12/04/2009
Because we don't want their weapons to fall in the wrong hands and we want to keep the region stable at least until the pipeline is built.
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01:38 AM on 12/04/2009
The pipeline would go to China, not through Afghanistan and Pakistan.
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01:52 AM on 12/04/2009
BTW You claim that this "paper" supports the statement that Obama contradicted the 9/11 report. The "paper" is simply a rehash of the "Truthers" concerns about the 9/11 report. I don't recall that Obama stated that the CIA planted charges at the WTC, or that the planes weren't actually hijacked, or that a missile destroyed the West wing of the Pentagon? Maybe you heard these "contradictions" but I sure didn't!
12:44 AM on 12/04/2009
What a joke. PM Yousuf Raza Gilani is clueless or this is just political maneuvering.