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Snowe Rejoins Dems At Public Option Negotiating Table

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First Posted: 03/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 03:50 PM ET

In a breakthough in Senate negotiations around a public health insurance option, Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) sat down with centrist conservative Democrats for the first time Saturday since the bipartisan Gang of Six broke up shortly after returning from the August recess.

Since then, Snowe, the most likely Republican to cross the aisle on health care reform, has been meeting individually with Democrats, but had yet to rejoin negotiations in a formal way.

Snowe, emerging from a meeting on the first floor of the Capitol, Saturday afternoon, told a few reporters hovering outside the room that she had been approached earlier that morning about attending.

She said that no agreement had yet been reached, but that the group was considering "another option," aside from those already under discussion. An agreement had been reached that it would not be publicly discussed, she said, until more details were worked out. Earlier Saturday, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) also mentioned the new option being kicked around but said he couldn't discuss it.

Kerry said that Sen. Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) was one of the leading intellectual fathers of this new approach, an assertion Snowe confirmed, adding that Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) and Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) were also closely involved.

Sens. Mark Udall (D-Colorado), Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.), Mary Landrieu (D-La.) and Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) also attended the meeting.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) was not at the meeting and has vowed to filibuster any bill that has any version of a public option. If Lieberman holds to his threat, Democrats would need Snowe to break a GOP-Lieberman filibuster.

Snowe said she was still pushing her "trigger" proposal and met yesterday with Kerry to discuss it. Kerry, she said, has long been open to such a plan. Under her trigger, the public option would only be available in states where private insurance is deemed unaffordable to a certain percentage of residents. Advocates of the public option say a trigger is as good as no public option at all, because it will be gamed by insurance companies so that it never "triggers."

Snowe said Kerry's been in discussions with her about her proposal for months. "[She and Kerry] have, even prior to this, [had discussions] on the Finance Committee about the possibility of a trigger and how it would work and so on," she said.

As the conservative meeting was breaking up, a separate meeting on the Hill began, where liberal Democrats met to discuss their own strategy around the public option.

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius was also in the Capitol Saturday, but didn't attend either meeting.

"I've talked to a lot of senators and encouraged the good work that's gone on," she said as she left the building and was met by a driving snow. "I know that lots of very positive conversations are underway with lots of members of the Senate and that's just what needs to happen."

President Obama plans to address the Senate caucus on Sunday afternoon, a meeting she said she planned to attend, as well.

HuffPost asked what she thought Obama would tell his party.

"Pass health care," she said.

UPDATE: Conservative Arkansas Democrats Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor joined the liberals on the second floor of the Capitol following the centrist meeting earlier. Snowe didn't join, but said she'd continue talking.

Following the meeting, Pryor declined to get too specific, but did say that a leading proposal involves increasing the ability of the Office of Personnel Management -- which oversees the federal employee health plans -- to negotiate on behalf of individuals and small businesses. Pryor told a HuffPost and an AP reporter that it was unclear how exactly it would be set up, but that it would take the place of the public option managed by the Health and Human Services Secretary.

Lincoln, also interviewed after the meeting, said that the OPM plan would not need additional seed money and would be similar to a proposal she introduced earlier this year called the SHOP Act. She said that she continues to oppose a "government-run plan," but that this proposal would meet the twin goals of keeping down costs and increasing competition. Snowe and Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) are cosponsors of the SHOP Act.

The Lincoln proposal appears to be the alternative option that the conservatives and centrists discussed at the earlier meeting. Snowe had said the proposal was both old and new and Lincoln's measure answers that riddle.

It does little, however, to answer liberals' demands for a nationwide public option. Pryor said, however, that the progressive senators they met with were willing to continue discussions and cautioned that it would be several days before a deal was reached.

They plan to meet again Sunday evening after Obama departs.

UPDATE II: On Sunday, Snowe told reporters that the proposal is no longer being considered as an alternative to the public option, but is being looked at on its own merits. The change, she said, took place between Saturday evening and Sunday.


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In a breakthough in Senate negotiations around a public health insurance option, Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) sat down with centrist conservative Democrats for the first time Saturday since the bipart...
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HUFFPOST PUNDIT
Bronxdude
Integrity has no need of rules
02:26 PM on 12/07/2009
Uninsured Americans can use hospital emergency rooms to receive quality healthcare. That’s the republican solution for granting healthcare access to 50 million uninsured Americans. The other republican solution is to privatize Medicare, which, according to the CBO, would generate an additional $3 trillion in annual revenue for the insurance cartel. The Republican Party – the quintessential party of lies, exaggerations and distortions – is aware that any costs associated with uninsured Americans using the emergency room will be passed on and absorbed by private insurance subscribers, not insurance or healthcare providers. Privatizing Medicare and encouraging uninsured Americans to continue using hospital emergency rooms increases the profit margin for insurers and healthcare providers. Every year, insured Americans pay on average an additional $834 in premiums to cover uninsured Americans. Universal coverage would end this practice and reduce the cost of premiums and healthcare coverage for every American. America spends 17% of GNP on healthcare, while France, Canada and Britain, respectively, spend 10%. Yet America ranks 50th among industrialized nations in life expectancy (France, Canada, Spain and Britain rank in the top 20). Healthcare in America is a $2 trillion-a-year industry, but a cost/benefit analysis would appear to indicate that there is no correlation between the amount of money spent and improved outcome, i.e., spending more does not produce better outcome. Obviously, fixing the delivery system is not what republicans want; for republicans, throwing more money at the problem is the only solution.
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HUFFPOST PUNDIT
Bronxdude
Integrity has no need of rules
02:25 PM on 12/07/2009
No matter what concessions democrats make, duplicitous republicans never intended to offer bipartisan support for healthcare reform, as evidenced by Grassley telling Obama he’s for reform, while telling Iowans he’s against it. For their efforts to sabotage reform, republicans have received millions in bribes from drug and insurance cartels. It was UnitedHealthcare that recently told me I couldn’t have the treatment my doctor prescribed, not the Federal government. With the public option, subscribers will pay premiums, patient care and not profit will be the central focus, and government will not use federal subsidies to create an artificial marketplace so the public option can enjoy an unfair competitive advantage over private insurers. Real competition will end the monopolistic stranglehold enjoyed by private insurers. President Obama inherited a huge deficit from Bush—$700 billion (Wall Street bailout), $900 billion (Prescription Drug Bill) and $2.2 trillion (Iraq War). President Clinton left office with a $759 billion surplus. What happen? According to the CBO, the public option will cost $100 billion per year. Per year, ending Medicare subsidies to insurance companies will save $40 billion, cutting subsidies to drug companies will save $30 billion, repelling Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest will save $30 billion, cutting Medicare fraud will save $60 billion and shutting down the Iraq War will save $70 billion. Compared to insurance reform, according to ten year CBO projections, prosecuting the Bush/Cheney War will cost $4 trillion.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
drricklippin
physician-activist-poet
01:07 PM on 12/07/2009
If we fail on health care reform the entire US legislative system could very well be declared broken beyond reasonable hope of repair.That could literally lead to a bone-fide political meltdown which could threaten the very stability of our nation.

Believe it!

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Elbrando
The dream shall never die - Ted Kennedy
09:32 AM on 12/07/2009
The trigger could work if you put the trigger low enough that it would almost assuredly go off unless private companies REALLY drop their rates. This way people could get the public option and politicians could save face.
12:45 PM on 12/06/2009
Snowe has already cast her lot with the democates in far too many ways for her to expect or receive any backing from the RNC so she may as well back the public option and shoot the moon and hope for a grassroots re-election prospect.
12:08 PM on 12/06/2009
She can be bought off as easy as Landrieu. We all know what she is, it's just settling on the price.
11:24 AM on 12/06/2009
The fact that we have to grovel to people like Snowe tells you just how disgusting Senate "democrats" are.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
lafayette2009
Revolutionary Leader
11:13 AM on 12/06/2009
I'd like to get on that Snowe Boat to Healthcare
All by myself up to Maine

I wonder how long it will be before Caribou Susie seeks to climb aboard the Maine Snoweboat?
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
billygore2000
10:49 AM on 12/06/2009
I forget. Was there a chapter in JFK's "Profiles of Courage" about Snowe?
10:16 AM on 12/06/2009
Sen. Snowe's probably ticked that Sen. Landrieu got $100 million for her vote and all she got was an autographed gift:

"I took it on the chin for Obama and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt."
09:56 AM on 12/06/2009
Dems need be more concerned about their senate leader

http://www.lvrj.com/news/fewer-back-health-reform-78628342.html

2009, LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL

President Barack Obama has lost ground in the last month in getting Nevadans to embrace his health care reform package and, for the first time, opposition is above 50 percent and support is below 40 percent, a new poll commissioned by the Las Vegas Review-Journal reveals. Only 39 percent of the poll respondents approve of Reid's efforts to get a bill through the U.S. Senate at a time when he's running for re-election.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
TFDNYC
thought police stink
10:04 AM on 12/06/2009
Surely you know how to look at things from more than one angle... That disapproval could very well indicate that they are frustrated by THE WAY he's pushing it through-- not THAT he is pushing it through. 68% of Americans still want the public option. Without it, no one is going to be happy with this bill.
11:09 AM on 12/06/2009
68%------------------ Not True
Try closer to 40%
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Downix
08:19 AM on 12/06/2009
Snowe is one of the reasons I am proud to be from Maine. She is an old-school Republican, from when they stood for something, not against something. She believes in big business, but is willing to cut a deal to help out the country as a whole. She knows we need healthcare reform, she also knows that if she comes out flatly for a Public Option she'll loose her fundraising channels from the RNC, so she is playing her cards very close to the chest here.
08:31 AM on 12/06/2009
She;'s wiolling to cut a deal to help the Bath Iron Works, anyway.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Downix
08:39 AM on 12/06/2009
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth! (and I'm from Maine, you think I don't have family which have worked for BIW? My great-grandfather used to be a foreman there)
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
newcastlebill
Pretty Liberal-couldn't be otherwise
08:58 AM on 12/06/2009
I, too, am from Maine, but I'm unwilling to sing Snowe's praises. Time after time she has voted to appear to be a moderate when her vote didn't make a difference in the outcome. Whenever her vote was really needed by the repugs, they got it.
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
ron071
12:56 PM on 12/06/2009
Much time and effort have been wasted in attempting to get votes from people who are bought and paid for by the big money from the health insurance industry. We have the necessary votes by reconciliation and should get on with it instead of compromising with those who seek to defeat any meaningful reform.

Then, after getting this vital reform passed, we need to attend to Joey Boy Lieberman and the other faux democrats. They will, in any event, go to work as lobbyists for their real constituents after they are booted from office. Why waste precious time and effort? Let's get on with reality in this matter.
08:16 AM on 12/06/2009
I hope if there is a trigger, it is triggered on state level but effect is on national level. So instead of this public option being available in only state where conditions are met, but is triggered in all state. This will create an internal pressure on insurance company in every state to make sure that it is not triggered in any state.
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07:45 AM on 12/06/2009
PUBLIC OPTION AS 'BEACHHEAD'
by J. P. Green
http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/
(slightly modified for length)

“… We need a public option 'beachhead' codified in health care reform. Even a weak public option can be strengthened as political circumstances improve. Establish the precedent now, while we have a chance, even if it requires some sort of 'trigger.' If we fail now, it could damage prospects for enacting any kind of public option into the foreseeable future, especially if Dems lose seats next year. With even a rudimentary public option established, amendments to broaden access piece by piece, would later have a much lower profile and better chances of success. The 'trigger mechanism' could be loosened up later, with the loudest stage of the ideological clash, public vs. private, behind us.

Secondly, I know 'rules is rules,' but to cave and allow a relatively small number of obstructionist Democrats to kill the public option entirely when a majority of both houses of congress support the proposal sets a dangerous precedent. If a healthy majority of Dems opposed the public option, I would say, OK ditch it, even though it's the best idea out there. But that's not the case. In addition, public opinion indicates that most Americans want it. Are we going to let a few Senators trump all that? If we do, it will only embolden them to do it again and again.
06:15 AM on 12/06/2009
For some reason I hope she helps stick it to Lieberman.