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In A Frenzied Copenhagen, Crucial Climate Talks Begin

First Posted: 03/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 03:50 PM ET

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By Jonathan Hiskes from Grist.org:

COPENHAGEN--There was no calm before the storm. At least not over the last few days, not in Copenhagen. The climate change conference begins for real this Monday morning, but the deluge--of information, of people, of noise of all sorts--swept into the city days ago.

Downtown, the wide sidewalks are jammed. Visitors ascend to street level at the central train station, rolling suitcases and opening maps. In bars and restaurants--I noticed this more once a bartender pointed it out--foreigners stare blankly at the Danish coins in their hands and try to figure out how much they're paying.

Aside from the permanent medley of neon signs--this city might be quaint, but it's commercialized too--climate-related posters and banners are everywhere. Most advertise Hopenhagen LIVE, a package of concerts, educational pavilions, and a giant illuminated globe in the City Hall Square (the event must have a serious advertising budget). There are posters too for climate-related rallies, concerts, expos, and art exhibits. And booklets, pamphlets, leaflets--whatever--stacked in abundance. The ubiquitous public climate-change art seems designed to provide inspiration or moral orientation. But there's so much of it that it sort of runs together. 100 Places to Remember Before They Disappear, an outdoor photo exhibit at Kongens Nytorv square, is stunning, but I don't know how many delegates will take the time to visit installations such as this.

A completely separate event, the Klimaforum09/Peoples Climate Summit offers a 48-page guide to its sessions. The Summit, which skews toward the down-with-capitalism crowd, will unfold at a posh downtown sports venue. According to the U.K. Telegraph, Copenhagen "officials" hope that the venue's climbing wall, swimming pool, and bowling alley will keep the radicals engaged downtown so the grownups at the U.N. conference can stay focused. (One group has threatened to break into the main conference site and "take over" for a day.)

At that main conference site, Copenhagen's Bella Center on the edge of the city, still more crowds gathered. On Sunday afternoon, an unattended suitcase led police to close entry and exit points and call in a bomb squad. The situation proved harmless, but it kept a crowd of delegates, NGO representatives, and media members waiting in the cold for about an hour.

Around the same time, organizers announced that the center was running into "capacity constraints"--34,000 people want to attend and the space holds only 15,000. The announcement introduced a quota system for NGOs and the press; only 3,500 media members would be allowed. I'll find out Monday morning exactly how conference organizers plan to handle this and other last-minute issues. Like whether to merge the AWG-LCA and AWG-KP negotiating tracks.

I haven't mentioned the policy jargon. AWG-LCA stands for Ad Hoc Working Group on Long-Term Cooperative Acion; AWG-KP is the Ad Hoc Working Group on Further Commitments for Annex Parties Under the Kyoto Protocol. Then there's the MRV--measurement, reporting, and verification goals. You get the point--it's a busy, confusing place, even before the conference begins.

Anyone who signed up to negotiate, or lobby negotiators, or report on them, should know by now that the climate problem is fraught with complexity, and so is the conference convening to address it. Nobody said this would be simple. I can't help but wonder how folks will find a measure of clarity amid the noise.

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By Jonathan Hiskes from Grist.org: COPENHAGEN--There was no calm before the storm. At least not over the last few days, not in Copenhagen. The climate change conference begins for real this Monday m...
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Balzac
08:27 PM on 12/07/2009
Puerto Rico's delegation should have disproportionate influence on the subject of trading systems for carbon offset trading, for example. They're in a special position and the Puerto Rican representatives are representing my own point of view on important issues related to structuring incentives for capitalism to get behind environmental preservation.
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midnight toker
07:55 PM on 12/07/2009
~Chicago's weather on Dec. 7, 1941:
"It was typical early December weather on Sunday Dec. 7, 1941, when news of the surprise Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor reached the Chicago area shortly after noon. Skies were overcast and temperatures were holding in the middle 30s with gusty south winds making it feel even colder. Temperatures had climbed from an early morning low in the middle 20s on the way to an afternoon high of 38 degrees. The weather was dry, though a few snow flurries would fall across the city later that evening. Temperatures remained chilly in the following week, but spiked to near 60 in a pre-Christmas warm-up. Snow was not much of a factor that month, totaling just 1.7 inches with nearly an inch falling just before the New Year."
http://weblogs.wgntv.com/chicago-weather/tom-skilling-blog/2009/12/chicagos-weather-on-dec-7-1941.html
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midnight toker
08:00 PM on 12/07/2009
and yet a year ago today there was a major ice storm:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/albert-imperato/the-ice-storm-one-year-la_b_382127.html

and from el paso to kennebunkport today we have an early winter storm.

damm that CO2!!!
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realpolitic
GOP is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!
10:37 PM on 12/07/2009
Yes, we saw a lot of cool temperature in America in the past year of 2009, yet it was still the fifth warmest year on record. The rest of the world is pretty large, Fumes, even bigger than the Jersey penisula! Oh, snap!
05:10 PM on 12/07/2009
For something like this you would hope for more video conferencing than limo's and private jets. Let's use the tech we have and set the example. Otherwise it is all hypocritical.
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EdRea
War is organized insanity.
03:39 PM on 12/07/2009
Somebody could make a killing with 2400 luxury bicycle rickshaws right now.
06:49 PM on 12/07/2009
Doubtful, since free busses were provided and came to the conference empty. Only 5 hybrid cars were found. The cars on the you tube video had one and sometimes 2 passengers. If I really believed the earth was on the edge of dying due to CO2 as these people supposedly do, I'd be video-conferencing, riding in a bus, renting a hybrid car, flying commercia. Obviously these people are not that worried - - not really. What hyprocrits.
02:59 PM on 12/07/2009
A Bob Dylan song has been chosen as the 'unofficial' Conference anthem by the UN.


http://cagle.com/working/091202/payne.jpg
03:38 PM on 12/07/2009
probably Alice's Restaurant
03:39 PM on 12/07/2009
(yes i know it was arlo guthrie's song)
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american-dolt
Truther since 2004
02:30 PM on 12/07/2009
Welcome to One World Government.
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PWM
Eisenhower Rep. The 1% started class warfare.
02:51 PM on 12/07/2009
Dream on. Will never happen.
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american-dolt
Truther since 2004
03:40 PM on 12/07/2009
Nightmare On
02:27 PM on 12/07/2009
The Saudis are demanding an investigation of the "climategate" cover-up. At least someone is....though it's pathetic that it has to be the House of Saud instead of the WashPo or New York Times.
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PWM
Eisenhower Rep. The 1% started class warfare.
02:52 PM on 12/07/2009
The last thing the Saudis want is new technology rather than burning oil.
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karen1p
03:13 PM on 12/07/2009
OIL COUNTRY, lDl0T!
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yep yep
02:12 PM on 12/07/2009
Some interesting Copenhagen tidbits. A Bob Dylan song has been chosen as the 'unofficial' Conference anthem by the UN. Why this is a problem.

http://envirogy.wordpress.com/2009/12/07/bobby-d-and-the-un/
01:40 PM on 12/07/2009
200 limousines and 140 private planes. This is the type of thing that Copenhagen must stop... Oh, wait a minute, that's what the saviors at Copenhagen are using. Hope they have some carbon offsets...
02:07 PM on 12/07/2009
it was 1200 limiousines originally, now more
02:51 PM on 12/07/2009
Thanks... 1200 was what I meant to type.
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PWM
Eisenhower Rep. The 1% started class warfare.
02:52 PM on 12/07/2009
They learned bad habits from the right
01:25 PM on 12/07/2009
I am saddened (but not surprised) that this article takes the usual patronizing tone toward "the down-with-capitalism crowd." Sure, many activist proposals are silly and far fetched, but this trivializes the sheer amount of enthusiasm, talent and creativity that's going to this event. "The adults" you mention need a vibrant, intelligent and irreverent young generation to remind them who they're working for, and corporate media is doing its best to present the activists as boneheads. Shame on you for joining the bandwagon.
01:12 PM on 12/07/2009
and more emissions from the fraudsters than 60 countries combined ....
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jlab
01:24 PM on 12/07/2009
You built yourself a cozy little cottage there, on the wrong side of history. Enjoy.
01:28 PM on 12/07/2009
1200 limos ,140 PRIVATE JETS,,, and that doesn't count the media , hotels , entourages et al,,,,, How many copies and on what paper is that 48 page guide ..... Al has got to be making a bundle this week
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PWM
Eisenhower Rep. The 1% started class warfare.
02:54 PM on 12/07/2009
I am amazed you believe in emisions at all.
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
12:58 PM on 12/07/2009
In the US:

Nix SUVs, promote small businesses, let people have time to walk the distances, lock up the muggers and other antisocials.

In China:

Install proper environmental regulations and enforce them

Each country needs to look at what can be done, and then do it. Is the whole of humanity enslaved by corporate cheapdom, "Everything at lowest cost, even if it means we pollute all and make everything so poorly it HAS to break down within a couple of years?" And that isn't necessarily a "Blame China first" situation. Apathy, amongst other things, is.

Profiteers say "research for the sake of researching is wrong".

How about "profiteering for the sake of profiteering is wrong"?

Where is the proverbial middle of the road?
01:42 PM on 12/07/2009
"profiteering for the sake of profiteering is wrong"

Al Gore has made over $100 million off of this global warming scare. That is wrong.
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scooterdme
02:48 PM on 12/07/2009
I understand, you WANT us to be addicted to foriegn oil, have to pay more and more for energy, fund terrorism, and drown. SWEEEEET

I'm glad you don't want me to pay any taxes, 'cause when my electricity bill goes up to 50000 a minute i'll be able to give it to entergy instead of infrastructure, or social security. YOU SURE ARE SMART MR. Conservative!!!!
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PWM
Eisenhower Rep. The 1% started class warfare.
02:54 PM on 12/07/2009
Evidence?
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Richard2
12:35 PM on 12/07/2009
Can you comment on why 1200 limos have been ordered by the delegates to the climate conference? Can they all fit on the crowded streets of Copenhagen?

Is it true that the sea level is still rising at nearly a full two inches per century at the tide station at Copenhagen's harbor?
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
12:59 PM on 12/07/2009
And why, when they said they wouldn't put up Xmas trees, it was because it was about a religion... why not say "Cutting down trees makes the problem worse" instead?

Not to mention, anyone taking 20 attoseconds to look would readily discover the Xmas tree and all that has pagan roots. Not Christian. Oopsie...