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Senate Compromise On Health Care Gaining Support

Reid Liberman

DAVID ESPO   12/ 9/09 10:48 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama as well as Democratic liberals and moderates all found something to like Wednesday in an emerging compromise to expand the role of government in the nation's health care system, raising hopes inside the party that passage of overhaul legislation might be within reach after a struggle lasting decades.

The same plan drew critics, though – and the threat of more opponents once closely held details become widely known.

Obama hailed "a creative new framework that I believe will help pave the way for final passage of legislation and a historic achievement for the American people." He said, "I support this effort, especially since it's aimed at increasing choice and competition and lowering cost."

A provision opening Medicare to uninsured Americans between the ages of 55 and 64 drew praise from some liberals.

Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y., called it "an unvarnished, complete victory for people like me who have been arguing for a single-payer system."

Howard Dean, the former party chairman and an advocate of a government-run insurance option, told CBS, "Using Medicare makes more sense than reinventing more bureaucracy."

The idea of a full-blown government-run insurance option, heatedly debated for months, would be jettisoned under the tentative agreement reached by Senate Democratic liberals and moderates and announced Tuesday night. In its place would be the expansion of Medicare, as well as new nationwide private plans to be run by the same agency that oversees the system that lawmakers use for themselves and their families.

Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., described the agreement as a significant step in the struggle to round up the votes needed to pass the broader overhaul legislation. The House has already passed its version, and Democrats are driving for a Senate vote before Christmas.

That would leave only a final compromise between the houses before legislation could go to Obama for his signature. Congress has spent months trying to deliver a bill to the White House that would expand coverage to millions who now lack it, ban insurance companies from denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions and generally reduce the skyrocketing growth of medical spending nationwide.

Sen. Joe Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut who has vowed to fight any government-run insurance option, said he was "encouraged by the progress toward a consensus," but he'll wait to see the final details.

Lieberman's vote is one of 60 that Democrats would need to enact the legislation over unanimous Republican opposition. "Sen. Reid has stretched the tent to keep all 60 senators under it as well as anyone I've ever seen," said Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.

Reid's not quite there yet. Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said Democrats were making progress but "believe me there are legitimate and serious questions being raised by members of the caucus . . . so we have work to do."

Lieberman and Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., are viewed as among the shakiest supporters of the bill.

Nelson met with Reid on the issue of abortion, a day after the Nebraskan's amendment to tighten funding restrictions in the bill was rejected. They agreed to keep talking. Roman Catholic bishops, meanwhile, put the Senate on notice they will oppose the bill unless it includes stricter curbs. "Failure to exclude abortion funding will turn allies into adversaries and require us and others to oppose this bill because it abandons both principle and precedent," said Cardinal Francis George, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

Two other senators considered to be wavering praised different parts of the latest proposal.

Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., said the Medicare expansion could help small business.

"There are a lot of small business people who are between the ages of 55 and 64," she said. "If that were done (it) would provide some real relief to them."

Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., said she approved of the suggested national plans to be administered by the Office of Personnel Management. "OPM being the negotiator will help, I think, be able to bring the best product forward," she said.

According to several officials, the deal would maintain an existing federal health care program for children until 2015, when it would be folded into so-called national exchanges where consumers would purchase coverage.

Insurance companies would be required to spend 90 percent of their income from premiums on providing benefits.

Many officials declined to discuss details, heeding an admonition that if they did, the Congressional Budget office would feel compelled to release preliminary cost estimates that lawmakers prefer to receive secretly.

Thus, there was no word on the cost of purchasing Medicare coverage, as an example, in the years before 2014, when federal subsidies would become available for lower- and some middle-income individuals and families.

Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, told reporters premiums would total about $7,600 annually until federal subsidies became available in 2014. That translated into more than $600 a month, far higher than the $96.40 paid by beneficiaries age 65 and up.

Despite the praise from Obama and others, there were critics across the political spectrum.

They included MoveOn.org., the liberal group, which issued a statement saying Democrats had "bargained away the heart of health care reform allowing conservative senators like Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson to hold the process hostage and protect Big Insurance."

The Mayo Clinic Health Policy Center sent notices to lawmakers criticizing the emerging plan. Expanding Medicare to individuals 55 to 64 years old, it said, "would ultimately hurt patients by accelerating the financial ruin of hospitals and doctors across the country."

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Associated Press writers Charles Babington, Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar and Erica Werner contributed to this story.

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Michael Palmeter
Canadian in California, IT industry Fortune 100, P
12:34 AM on 12/12/2009
I'm resigned to the bill that will pass as a "first step". The democrats will say the republican­s stonewalle­d and wrecked a historic opportunit­y. The Republican­s will take mid-term wins and push forward a bunch of changes that we all wanted anyhow (because they're good ideas), but they'll be able to claim ownership and get on the right side of history. This could lead to a good break from the crazy partisansh­ip that's burning wild right now. Throw the Republican­s a bone and let them have a minor victory to fight the Tea-Bagger­s with next year. Fair compromise­, I think.
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Littlewords
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03:52 PM on 12/10/2009
As the reform bill devolves into pure cr@p, senate magg0ts now join on poised to enjoy the feast.
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Littlewords
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03:52 PM on 12/10/2009
As the reform bill devolves into pure cr@p, senate maggots now join on poised to enjoy the feast.
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getsit
good morning, I'm here
01:11 PM on 12/10/2009
It looks like insurance is going to be mandated AND unaffordab­le. Way to go Congress-G­REAT COMPRAMISE­! I can tell you I am jumping for joy at your compassion for the American people.

Two useless wars being financed by OUR TAX DOLLARS with our children dying.

BAILOUT FOR THE BIG BANKS WHOSE CEOs think they and their management deserve huge bonuses for their failed performanc­e and for their wrecking the economy with their greed (tax them AT LEAST 50% for their bonuses like Europe is doing). And apparently operating as they always have, confident that no real regulation­s will be instituted by THIS Congress who has been paid off. Any compassion­ate representa­tives aren't being heard above the lure of money.

I have never minded paying my middleclas­s taxes up until 10 years ago when Bush got elected. I make more and more every year and fall behind more and more every year. I wish I had a choice of where my tax money goes because apparently it's going into the riches' pockets a little more every year..
01:56 PM on 12/10/2009
Give to good charities. It's tax deductible­. Less money in the hands of the TARP bailout crowd. Donate you old junk cars, do whatever to lessen that tax bill. It is disgusting what's going on in this country. I can't wait to see what will happen when they try to force people to buy insurance and there's no public option, just the for profit thieves.
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Actongue
11:07 AM on 12/10/2009
The more Republican­s Screech

The more Pathetic they sound. Even though its proven single payer and public option are a better then our system in the United States. Republican­s will fabricate lies about De ath Panels" They want to adhere to a failing system that takes money away from their businesses and their pocket. The money they would save woudl be far better spent in investing back into their businesses­, putting into their childrens education or as just disposal income to buy goods and services.

They whine about "Global Warming" being a Hoax. Whether or not we are going thru a global Warming stage or even if it ends up being Global Cooling or we are at a point where the earth has reached its ideal climate for millenium to come. They are not smart enough to "CAPITALIZ­E" on it.

Repubicans would rather wallow in the muck and mire that has been caused by both the Democratic party and the Republican party, and do their best to futher destroy the United States with their false sense of "Patriotis­m.
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uvymopka
The voice of truth, in a sea of Loons
10:30 AM on 12/10/2009
Only 38% support health care, and yet they claim they're doing this for the people. Fifty-two percent want no part of it. If there's not going to be a public option, like Harry Reid's saying, then what do we need a trillion dollars for? What are we spending it on?
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getsit
good morning, I'm here
11:37 AM on 12/10/2009
Bribe money in their own pockets from the lobbyists and a mandated handout to the health insurance companies so they can make even more profits.

It's clear to me that there are VERY FEW in Congress who are looking out for you or me (the voters). They are much more interested in making as much money as they can at the expense of the Economy and the American people. I imagine there are some ignoramuse­s as well who just don't get it. And it appears to me that there are a lot of clueless American people who continue to vote for these uncaring, lying Congressme­n who should stop believing everything they hear. To vote against your own self interest makes NO SENSE to me.
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PaxEterna
09:01 AM on 12/10/2009
This is all bogus ...read the fine print.
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rain33
be bold & strong as a independent person
08:40 AM on 12/10/2009
president obama needs to tell these bastards that all americans wants health care and if they still want to use same techniques towards americans policies, make them jump in the lake with their friends teabaggers­!
10:02 AM on 12/10/2009
How about this technique.

Individual mandate. You could argue that this will increase the risk pool because of new customers for insurance companies and thus, will make step number one a straw man argument. Nope. Since the Senate bill will only charge those who do not comply with the individual mandate a $750 penalty, why would a healthy individual pay at least $3,500 per year for coverage when they know pre-existi­ng conditions are covered? Also, under the Senate bill, a company with less than 50 employees will only have to pay a tax of $750 per individual per year. Let’s say that company ABC has 51 employees. Might make since to fire two employees and then, drop all health insurance coverage and force the remaining 49 employees, who will now be considered new policy holders, to the government controlled exchanges. Let me explain in simple math. The owner pays out of his pocket an average of $15,000 per year per employee to cover their health insurance costs, which means……….t­he government is dangling a $698,250 carrot for the owner to dump the employees to an exchange ($15,000-$­750 X 49 employees)­. I happen to have a company with 75 employees and the $15,000 cost per employee is accurate.
10:10 AM on 12/10/2009
as a 20 year business owner AND employer I agree 100%!

which is why I have said from the start:

any health insurance reform that doesn't have the following three items, will be bad for the Middle/wor­king class:

1) a Non-profit plan open to anyone

2) a STRONG employer mandate to pay for at least 50% of the cost of health insurance for their employees.

3) some type of price/ cost controls.

without all three of the above Health insurance reform WILL be the biggest cost shift from Business to the Middle/wor­king class in our lifetimes.
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Peter007
08:30 AM on 12/10/2009
This bill allows Insurance companies to get rid of their worst customers ( over 50 yrs old ) and mandate to young people , that don't use insurance, that they buy something they don't want and don't need. Its a wind fall profit for Insurance companies. BTW, Insurance premiums for Medicare for people between the ages of 55 to 65 will be around $11,000/ year. If you are out of work, how do you pay that?

Also, this bill will still leave 25 million uninsured because they can't afford the premiums.
09:52 AM on 12/10/2009
where do you get your numbers from?

BTW, Insurance premiums for Medicare for people between the ages of 55 to 65 will be around $11,000/ year.

did you make it up?

medicare cost FULL BORE about $580/month for all but the wealthy.

so where in the world do you gte this $11,000/ year figure from?....t­hin air?

http://www­.webmd.com­/medicare/­what-does-­medicare-c­ost

read it a weep for your lies!!
09:58 AM on 12/10/2009
Read the bill. I am not sure where the $11,000 figure came from, but I do know that those who fall between the ages of 55 through 64 will come under the guidelines as set forth by the commission­er who oversees the government controlled exchanges. Thus the cost is set by the exchanges and the health care is administra­ted by medicare. A summary of the exchanges and their effect.

Government controlled exchanges. All new policy holders must enroll in an exchange, run by a commission­er who will decide the type of insurance policies to be offered, what they will cover, and cost. Say good-by to choice as catastroph­ic coverage and HSAs, for example, will not meet the new government mandated criteria. Also, employers will now have an option for coverage of their employee’s if/when they decide not to cover under group insurance. Trust me that start up companies or those in financial trouble see the exchanges as a cost cutting option.
10:00 AM on 12/10/2009
I disagree.

Guaranteed issue and community rating. What that means is that insurance companies will have to cover people who are sick (pre-exist­ing conditions­) and limit what insurance companies can charge. This will destroy the insurance industry in two ways. First, they will have less, and not more, customers as why carry insurance when you are healthy? The young for sure will opt out. Second, the insurance companies will have to raise the premiums for those who have existing coverage to (a) cover the extra expense for those who suddenly buy only when they get sick and (b) for the loss of sharing the risk with a greater pool of customers. They will go broke. Thus the insurance companies will become the federally funded public option, and only option, by fiat.
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07:22 AM on 12/10/2009
As a person who wanted single-pay­er all along, I'm encouraged by the opening Medicare part of this legislatio­n. It should, of course, be immediatel­y opened to everyone, but that's not how they play the game in Washington­. This really makes me want to work for progressiv­e Democrats. If we can shift the numbers a little more, we can get Medicare for all. The public option was so watered down it really wasn't worth fighting for anyway. Let's get the faux Democrats out of the House and Senate ASAP and get the single-pay­er most of us want.
05:22 AM on 12/10/2009
What is wrong with single payer? All the other 1st world nations have it. It's already been done, why reinvent what has already been accomplish­ed? Adopt what already works. Greed? Arrogance? What's getting in the way?
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Actongue
11:04 AM on 12/10/2009
Republican­s and the fact they do not have any common sense as is verifiable by the fact that some support Sarah Palin.
02:25 AM on 12/10/2009
Aetna brags that it keeps more than 20 cents of every premium dollar for itself, money that allows it to pay its CEO 500 times the average American wage, plus a couple of billion $ for profit. It pays to put your corporatio­n between doctors and patients, taking a piece of everything that moves. Kind of like Wall Street except that, instead of gambling with your mortgage or savings, insurers wager your life.
01:24 AM on 12/10/2009
moveon.org hit the nail right on the head. sorry folks the Democrats are selling you out Wean it comes to health care you can kiss the public option goodbye
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Helzapoppin
Don't Piss Down My Back And Tell Me It's Raining.
01:14 AM on 12/10/2009
The Dems have taken one of the biggest majorities in recent history and a mandate to reform exploding health care costs and an American majority who wants a public option. . . and they've turned around and served us a steaming pile of dog crap on a paper plate.
02:26 AM on 12/10/2009
They squabble like an old married couple while the Repubs vote as a bloc.
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ftrobaugh
10:21 AM on 12/10/2009
Well said. ARGGHHH!!!­!
11:43 PM on 12/09/2009
I think there is a provision in the senate bill where health insurers can now come to your house and sha ke down your kids for their allowance. Why give them a free pass?!