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Lieberman's Medicare Flip-Flop Leaves Democrats Fuming

First Posted: 03/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 03:55 PM ET

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Sen. Joseph Lieberman's abrupt announcement that he will sink the health-care bill if it includes a provision to expand Medicare has spurred a torrent of angry recriminations from Democrats -- and confusion among those trying to divine his motives.

A big issue is all the contradictions. The Connecticut Independent has for years been an ardent champion of the provision he now opposes. Lieberman has also reversed course on the question of filibusters, which he once denounced as a way of holding up legislation. And the same senator who was once critical of his electoral opponent for not exhibiting party loyalty has now fashioned himself into the ultimate rogue agent -- happiest only when the full attention of the political world is on him.

"When carrots no longer work, when you put Senator Lieberman's most significant health care proposal at the heart of reform and he still opposes not just the larger reform but also his own provision, you start to wonder if this man is dealing in good faith," said Paul Begala, the long-time Democratic strategist. "How do you deal with someone who is so committed to opposing health care reform that he will even oppose his own ideas? It's a tall order. And I haven't the slightest idea what the answer is."

The history is right there. On Monday, video surfaced of an interview Lieberman conducted just three months ago with the Connecticut Post in which he specifically endorsed expanding Medicare to those as young as 55.

And that was entirely in character. After all, Lieberman ran for vice president in 2000 on a platform that included a Medicare buy-in, citing its bi-partisan appeal within Congress. He repeatedly touted Medicare during his run for president in 2004. And according to Stan Greenberg, a prominent Democratic pollster and longtime Connecticut resident, he made the government-run health care system a focal point of his first run for office in 1988.

"The position on Medicare makes no sense to me at all at any level," Greenberg said, "either at the consumer level or in regards to the kind of social spending that he always supported. He always supported Medicare."

The simplest explanation for Lieberman's pirouette is that he is in the pocket of the insurance industry. He has been criticized along those lines since his days as attorney general of Connecticut. Back in 1988, he was dogged for accepting campaign donations from the insurance company Advest Inc. one month after Connecticut Insurance Commissioner Peter W. Gillies had requested an opinion from his office in a case involving the company. Over the course of his career in the Senate, meanwhile, Lieberman has taken more than $1.04 million in campaign contributions from insurance companies, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

But not everyone buys that he is simply doing private insurance's bidding. The opposition comes from a far more personal place, they suggest: a grudge against the party for abandoning him in 2006 and not supporting him more fully in 2004.

"I think he is smarting from 2004 and 2006," says Greenberg. "I think he believes that he should have been a presumptive strong [presidential] candidate in 04 having been Al Gore's vice presidential candidate. That didn't happen and I think the resentment began then. Then in 2006 the [Ned] Lamont challenge which made him an independent. I know he resents the left wing of the Connecticut Democratic Party and the left wing of national Democrats. I'm sure he doesn't mind putting it to them."

Lieberman has abandoned long held principles in other ways as well, in his war against health care reform. The senator, for example, once bemoaned the use of the filibuster by senators, co-sponsoring legislation in 1994 that would have essentially eliminated the procedural tool. Now he is wielding the filibuster threat himself.

Back in 1988, he spoke disparagingly of the fact that his opponent, Sen. Lowell Weicker, was not really a member of either major party. "Lowell Weicker is not a real Republican," Lieberman charged. "He's not a real Democrat. He does what he wants when he wants to do it." Now, of course, Lieberman is jubilant in his self-proclaimed independence.

If there is any consistency in what the senator is doing, it's his consistent eagerness to derail reform. Lieberman was a thorn in Bill Clinton's side during the last attempt at health care legislation in 1994 -- so much so that pro-reform activists staged a mock trial outside his Senate office, charging him with obstructionism. Capitol Hill police, according to the Hartford Courant, arrested ten people that day, including a protestor in a wheelchair.

And now it looks increasingly like the senator who Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and President Barack Obama generously kept in the Democratic caucus following the '08 elections will end up upending their primary domestic agenda.

"It's all about his ego and isn't based on any principled understanding of the policy," said one senior Democratic aide. "But the big problem with Lieberman is that his saying that he will vote 'no' gives cover and opens the door to about a half dozen other senators who can now do the same. So this really won't be about Reid having to find one more vote to balance Lieberman. Which means that either health reform is doomed or a bunch more deals will need to be cut watering down the reform even more. I guess the question is, at what point does it all become a wash?"

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09:41 PM on 12/15/2009
I will personally donate money to any grass roots organization that goes up against him in the next election - even though I'm not a constituent - I say call them all out - but especially him - I've despised him for as long as I can remember - and he was a TERRIBLE choice as a VP running mate, I've always thought that.
02:13 PM on 12/15/2009
Lieberman's going to have blood on his hands if this goes his way..........along with a few other Senators.
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balthus
05:47 PM on 12/15/2009
It already has gone his way. Reid didn't have balls enough to tell Joe he'd pull his committee chairmanship if he didn't get in line, and Obama apparently could care less what a health bill looks like as long as it has "health bill" on the cover page and a dotted line he can sign.
02:09 PM on 12/15/2009
Some good journalist needs to take a hard look at what's going on behind the curtains with Lieberman. His hypocrisy and somewhat abrupt about face on issues is suspicious. Starting with his close relationship with health insurance companies and then his relationship with Israeli organizations in the US. As they say, "follow the money."
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lejoueur
01:48 PM on 12/15/2009
The rising cost of providing healthcare is the reason why healthcare insurance premiums are high. If you want premiums to reduce, you will have to address the reasons for the rising costs. We have are a litigation friendly society which makes it necessary for doctors to buy expensive malpractice insurance. Although this is only about 5% of the total cost of healthcare, the consequences are seen in defensive medicine and the overprescription of expensive scans for even the most minor ailment. Also the incentives for to prescribe these procedures favors the doctors because they make more money. This creates a perverse incentive system. Beating on the insurance companies is easier than addressing the causes of rising cost.

It is almost like we want the insurance companies to be the safety valve that will limit the increase of premiums while at the same time we want access to all the healthcare we want. I would support a public option if we had control over the cost of providing healthcare. Short of that, any public option will only lead to the same disaster that is Medicare (it is running at a huge deficit).

It is unfair that younger workers who are hardest hit by the crisis are paying (or will pay through future taxes) for their parents healthcare through Medicare. 20% of the population consumes about 56% of total healthcare and the oldest 1% consume about 20%. Unfortunately young people are not engaged in the debate.
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dmsdzinr
Progression wit a twist of sarcasm.
01:45 PM on 12/15/2009
This Hose Bag's FLIP-FLOPPING like some captured carp is a COMPLETE indication of his true character and morals. The man changes his mind as often as the wind. He is totally UNPRINCIPLED!!!
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Bronxdude
Integrity has no need of rules
01:15 PM on 12/15/2009
Thousands of uninsured Americans show-up at emergency rooms everyday with stage 4 cancer, and Joe Lieberman finds this moral travesty wholly acceptable. In contrast, rather than fund insurance reform by raising taxes on the wealthiest, Mitt Romney has, instead, proposed reducing the deficit by cutting the salaries of blue collar Federal employees. The cost of the Bush tax cuts over the next ten years is $3.9 trillion (insurance reform: $1.2 trillion). As a result of Bush’s tax cuts, the period from 2001 to 2008 registered the weakest jobs and income growth in post-war America. When Bush entered office, 12% of the population was living in poverty; by 2008, that number had swelled to 17%. In 2001 the unemployment rate was 4%; by 2008, it had doubled. Under Bush, overall monthly job growth was the worst of any cycle since 1945, and household income growth was negative for the first time since tracking began in 1967. In 2001, 17 million Americans received food stamps; by 2008, 30 million were relying on food stamps. Republicans who now deride the $800 billion recovery package implemented by Obama as “too big” willingly jumped aboard the Bush bandwagon claiming his $1.35 trillion in tax cuts would create millions of jobs and bolster the economy (not!). In fact, when Bush took office, he inherited and quickly squandered a $759 billion surplus created by Clinton; thus, Bush equals recession, and compassionate conservatism is a scam.
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Joe The Nerd Ferraro
Group IQ is inversely proportional to group size.
12:29 PM on 12/15/2009
i realize this is really off-topic
I am acting like a stupid spammer

this is from a facebook group looking for members....
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http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=169917060735

JANUARY 15 2010 - MARCH FOR CHANGE

AMERICANS NEED TO MARCH ON WASHINGTON IN NUMBERS HERETOFORE UNSEEN TO DEMONSTRATE OUR SUPPORT FOR THE FUNDAMENTAL CHANGES WE STILL BELIEVE IN AND WANT TO SEE OUR PRESIDENT & REPRESENTATIVES FIGHT FOR.

We need to show our numbers, our vigor, and our commitment to REAL, SUBSTANTIVE, AND FUNDAMENTAL (not incremental) CHANGE in a way that will capture the national media's attention and call attention to our discontent. This astroturf, right-wing, TeaBag movement has been successful in creating the misperception that "Millions" of Americans are fed up with Gov't (specifically Obama).
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this is a worthy group to join; even as the RW trolls try to attack this.

please re-post this on threads you think may want to see this.
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17ladyslippers
12:41 PM on 12/15/2009
Is there any money or muscle behind this movement? Teabaggers costs for transportation, food and protest signs were paid for by the for-profit Health Insurance Industry and some very powerful Conservative organizations.

I believe in grassroots but today, and especially in the current economy, it costs money to rally enough numbers to show up to demonstrate.
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Joe The Nerd Ferraro
Group IQ is inversely proportional to group size.
12:59 PM on 12/15/2009
we are a month out from this.

if this is a valid idea things will happen

if it is not - it dies on the vine.

it is the marketplace of ideas.

will the best ideas survive.

I have some faith.
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lejoueur
12:28 PM on 12/15/2009
What makes Joe tick is a realization that a country that promises unlimited access to healthcare to everyone will end up bankrupt. Someone is either lying when they say there will be no rationing or we are heading straight for the cliffs especially when we consider the historic deficits. The president and congress need to focus on the economy and jobs which is how most people get healthcare.
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TheWanderer
Above us only sky
12:41 PM on 12/15/2009
That would explain the bankruptcy of France, the Netherlands, Great Britian, Germany, etc...oh, wait, they're not bankrupt, are they. Hmmm.
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lejoueur
01:39 PM on 12/15/2009
The rising cost of providing healthcare is the reason why healthcare insurance premiums are high. If you want premiums to reduce, you will have to address the reasons for the rising costs. We have are a litigation friendly society which makes it necessary for doctors to buy expensive malpractice insurance. Although this is only about 5% of the total cost of healthcare, the consequences are seen in defensive medicine and the overprescription of expensive scans for even the most minor ailment. Beating on the insurance is easier than addressing the causes of rising cost. I would support a public option if we had a handle on the cost of providing healthcare. Short of that, any public option will only lead to the same disaster that is Medicare.
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GreshamGuy
The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence"
12:47 PM on 12/15/2009
Nice try.

What makes Joe tick is narcissism, combined with a deep sense of grievance over the Democrats' rejection as their candidate in his re-election bid. He couldn't care less about deficits - the wars were fine with him - he just cares about getting vengeance on those who didn't appreciate his innate rightness.

Health care reform will cost less than a year's worth of our interminable wars. The Democrats may be partially responsible for the debt, but there was a surplus when GWB took over and that surplus was viewed as an opportunity to make the richest even richer, at the expense of everyone else.

There's a distinct aroma of excess piety around in regard to the debt. Or is that hypocrisy?
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joanevan
11:56 AM on 12/15/2009
I bet Obama regrets campaigning for this **** back in '06.


Ooops, your bad, obama.
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ETSpoon
11:14 AM on 12/15/2009
The subhead on the home page asked: "What Makes Joe Tick?"

Here's my guess, first he's in the pocket of Connecticut's insurance lobby.

But secondly he's also deeply in the pocket of Connecticut's defense contractors lobby and the Pentagon Shadow Nation. According GovernmentContractsWon.com the State of Connecticut was awarded $383,348,280,990 in contracts by the Department of Defense. http://www.governmentcontractswon.com/department/defense/connecticut_counties.asp

Life is good in the DOD Shadow Nation. Health care insurance is affordable. So what is the rest of the nation suffers. the DOD Shadow Nation ensures our liberties.
11:09 AM on 12/15/2009
Had Lieberman supported this Health Bill, Obamabots would be effusing how clever Obama was to strongly support Lieberman over Connecticut Democratic Party Candidate antiwar Ned Lamont.

Now that warmonger Lieberman continues to reveal his true colors on yet another issue, what do the Obamabots say now? They mistakenly blame the Connecticut voters for electing Lieberman!!!

Hello? Lieberman was elected in Connecticut by Republican crossovers, and Dems and Independents MISLED BY OBAMA.
Lamont's campaign was further starved for funds by Rahm Emanuel.

Please blame the true culprits. Obama and his gang of swindlers.
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Flavor
Change Is Now
10:54 AM on 12/15/2009
We can't continue being held hostage by a few, who have forgotten that they were called to serve, and that we aren't to serve them. Mr. Lieberman is just doing what he is known for doing,self. It is now our turn to squeeze the hell out of Congress & putup or shutup and or allow the few to continue in this rhetoric. I don't know what this man has on them but I believe he does this (JUNK), for attention & to make a name for himself, and right about now he has many new names that he does not hardly want to hear, what they are. I have lost the tiny bit of respect for them, in fact i believe fifth graders could do a better job. This has been a hoax and the biggest joke ever played, but he who laughs first, will be laughing last.
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duhtruth
10:26 AM on 12/15/2009
Stop LIEberman! ST@ne him in the name of all sick and suffering that cannot get health coverage. Money talks and Joe walks.
11:31 AM on 12/15/2009
What we need to do is start a list of people who died because they couldn't afford proper health care. Then have a senator read that list into the congressional record every day.
Once a few weeks go by, and reading the list takes an hour, even the republicans will think about budging...
10:04 AM on 12/15/2009
NO foreign aid to countries that have single payer or government run health care.
11:32 AM on 12/15/2009
And no alliances with them either, in fact we should all boycott them and set up a trade barrier.
Darn Canadians and British, interfering in our Iraq and Afganistan wars...
11:44 AM on 12/15/2009
Have the Repugs and Hoe vote no on this and their constituents would read them the riot act.
10:04 AM on 12/15/2009
I was really hoping for that Medicare buy-in (57, on long-term disability, scads of pre-existing conditions including a heart attack). Well, from now on, when I have to fill out all those financial forms at the doctors' offices, when they ask for "Responsible Party," I think I'll just put "Joe Lieberman." Anyone have his address and phone?
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midwesthousewife
10:47 AM on 12/15/2009
LOL...Great Idea!