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Lieberman: Obama Never Pressed Me On Public Option

First Posted: 03/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:00 PM ET

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Senator Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) insists that the White House did not pressure him to get in line behind either a public health insurance option or a Medicare buy-in compromise during the health care debate this year.

"Well, no. I think I got pressure from the president to be for health care reform," Lieberman said when asked by HuffPost about any pressure from the administration to support either the public option or the Medicare buy-in. "I'd have to think about this, but I didn't really have direct input from the White House on this."

He added that Nancy-Ann DeParle, a top administration health care aide, downplayed the public option's significance early in the debate.

"Early on, Nancy-Ann DeParle came in, I told her my argument, I said, 'Nancy, I don't remember this ever being in the presidential campaign debates -- or discussions. I don't mean just the debates. And she said, 'You know, it's interesting. We went back and checked and there's one mention in the bottom of a paragraph of an Obama presidential policy statement on health care where it's mentioned as an option.' But most of the negotiation I had on that was with Senator Reid."

When Obama addressed the Democratic caucus towards the end of the debate, as the public option was teetering on the brink, Lieberman said the president told him simply to work it out.

"When he came to the caucus he said, 'Just try to work this out as you get to the end here.' And I said, 'OK,'" explained Lieberman.

On Sunday, Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.), blamed the administration's decision not to push for the public option for its eventual demise. "Unfortunately, the lack of support from the administration made keeping the public option in the bill an uphill struggle," he said.

One of the first times that the White House was closely involved in public option or Medicare buy-in negotiations was two Sundays ago, when Lieberman told Reid he would filibuster the buy-in compromise, Lieberman explained.

"Most of my dealings were with Senator Reid until the very end, that Sunday, when I went in to his office and Rahm Emanuel was there," said Lieberman. Rahm, said Lieberman, "was relatively quiet."

Reid and Emanuel met privately before Lieberman arrived at Reid's office; HuffPost previously reported that sources familiar with the meeting said that Emanuel pressured Reid to drop the Medicare buy-in. Regardless of whose decision it was, by the time Lieberman got to Reid's office, Reid was ready to drop the Medicare compromise, said Lieberman.

"The truth is that the meeting was really run by Senator Reid. And at that point he was basically trying to put it together and he said, 'I hear you. I understand you don't want the public option, which is out, and now you don't want to expand Medicare. I understand your reasons. I don't agree with them. We've got to get to 60. And so we'll take them out,'" Lieberman recalled.

"Most of our active discussion that day was about this OPM [Office of Personnel Management] national private plan idea, because I wanted to make sure there wasn't any sort of fall-back public option in there, which had been in an earlier iteration, and he promised me there wouldn't be."

Emanuel didn't weigh in much on the Medicare compromise, said Lieberman. "He was relatively quiet. He asked a few questions about the national private plan discussion," he said.

Ultimately, said Lieberman, the president wasn't attached to the public option and repeatedly made clear that it was simply a preference.

"Personally, I feel that the bill does what the president set out as his goals: contain costs, expand coverage to some of the millions of people who don't have it now and regulate insurance companies so they treat consumers and patients more fairly. And I remember the president, in his address to Congress earlier this year, said 'I prefer the public option but what I'm really interested in is my goals. If you can achieve my goals in health care reform without a public option, then that's fine with me.' And I think that's what this bill does," said Lieberman.

UPDATE: Reader Bluesue points out that if Lieberman's correct that DeParle searched campaign documents for reference to a public option, she didn't do a very thorough job. The public option -- referred to in the campaign's platform as a "new public plan" -- is mentioned throughout the campaign's health care literature. (PDF)


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08:13 AM on 01/14/2010
How does it contain cost.
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
03:47 AM on 12/23/2009
On Countdown with Keith Olberman, America's largest Registered Nurses Union (National Nurses United) came out today against the Senate healthcare bill, saying it will make the healthcare crisis WORSE:

"Sadly, we have ended up with legislation that fails to meet the test of true healthcare reform, guaranteeing high quality, cost effective care for all Americans and instead are further locking into place a system that entrenches the chokehold of the profit-making insurance giants on our health. If this bill passes, the industry will become more powerful and could be beyond the reach of reform for generations."

In response, Senate Republicans have gone from telling Teaparty supporters they will fight to the last, to helping Democrats pass it faster.

Senate Republicans have now agreed to cut debate short to let Democrats pass this bill earlier.
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hdohighdesertobserver
The high desert is a place in between
03:20 AM on 12/23/2009
Given the recent history of this reprobate, why would I believe him?
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donbrown
A television producer in Hawaii
02:11 AM on 12/23/2009
I say do what Obama is doing -- humor Lieberman long enough to get what we want out of him (a key vote)....

Then strip him of his chairmanship and kick him to the curb until the next election... and make sure he loses.
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rebeccaj
01:10 AM on 12/23/2009
Does anyone really believe this guy -- about anything?
12:05 AM on 12/23/2009
If we can believe Joe, which is a big if, this is the smartest thing Obama did...Joe wanted attention, the worst fate to him is to ignore him. Good Work Mr. President.
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maxfax
Taa - dah!
10:20 PM on 12/22/2009
Who to believe? Gibbs said the President did "everything" he could to get the public option. What a friggin' joke.
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mainemomma
I don't want a micro bio
10:42 PM on 12/22/2009
We know he didn't do everything. He didn't channel FDR. He did very little to promote the public option. But, Lieberman is a liar... and a creep. I don't believe him either. Gibbs is a lackey..
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maxfax
Taa - dah!
11:01 AM on 12/24/2009
Rahm needs to go.
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AxelDC
04:56 PM on 12/22/2009
No, all the WH pressure came to get Democrats to cave in to Lieberman.

We see where Obama's priorities are.
10:26 PM on 12/22/2009
That is ridiculous.

First, the public option was not popular with many Senators. Pushing for it meant the demise of any health care reform since it meant the loss of 60. Compromise is the only way to get it to pass and at least five of the 60 were never going to vote for a public option.

Second we need to stop bashing President Obama for having to face political reality. The fact is that there are a lot of conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans who are responsible for whittling away at the President's agenda and these are the people who need to be targeted, not the President.

The simple math behind the political reality needs to be faced. And people need to grow up and understand that President Obama does not have a magic wand that is going to repair all the damage that the Bush administration did in 12 months, or persuade a bunch of partisans to vote Democrat.

President Obama is a success - we are the failures for balming him instead of pressuring these politicians ourselves.
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mainemomma
I don't want a micro bio
10:44 PM on 12/22/2009
You are right, but our President needs to remember his base.. vs. trying to be bi-partisan.

Bush always remembered his base, and it did well for him. If you don't have an energized base, you lose.
02:38 AM on 12/23/2009
Pure BS. Sometimes it is better to go down fighting the good fight than compromise your principles. This was one of those times IMHO. This administration has no backbone. Bush passed his horrible agenda with 50 senators. OBIE can't do the right thing with 60! If this is the best he can do it is time for him to resign and let Joe do it.

What a disappointment and a disgrace. If there isn't a good progressive running 2012, I know I will be home reading a good book on election day. I give up. The cynics have been right and I have been wrong for many years, there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the 2 parties. Democracy is dead. Both parties are bought and paid for by the same bunch of greedy bast****!
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Christian Troy
"Reality has a liberal bias"-Stephen Colbert
02:18 PM on 12/22/2009
So Obama didn't pressure Lieberman, but progressives. Pretty telling about how he is going is governing.
10:32 PM on 12/22/2009
The fact is that nothing is going to pass Congress without the imprimatur of conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans. That means that the Progressives have to compromise. If you don't like it, don't blame President Obama for the math behind adding up votes and the political reality that represents. Take responsibility for what you want and work your butt off to get the conservative Dems and Republicans out of government.

Because the way it looks right now, the whining that you and others are doing about what a disappointment President Obama is, instead of seeing reality for what it is and dealing with it, is playing right into the new right wing propaganda line about how ineffective President Obama is.

President Obama is not the problem. The conservatives occupying seats in the Congress are the problem, along with people like you who think they can be ignored.
02:50 AM on 12/23/2009
Hogwash! The 60 vote for turn off of the filibuster rule is just that a rule. it can be changed with a simple majority vote. Reid and the administration are just hiding behind the 60 number! They don't want to change it because it gives them an excuse to cave to lobbiests and their pay masters.

This administration is becoming more of a sellout everyday. Obama is no FDR, Truman or LBJ - no principles and no backbone, more like an American version of Neville Chamberlain.
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thefixisin
02:09 PM on 12/22/2009
Listen up people I dont care if you dont like politics this is going to affect us all! This health care bill is not reform it is a giveaway to the vary insurence companys that have been ripping off the american public for years. You will be mandated to have their product and up to 8% of your income and 30% if you have a pre-execsting condition. Call your Senators and stop this or you will be whining later stop this now without a Public Option we have no choich but to defeat this corprate giveaway!
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rebeccaj
01:14 AM on 12/23/2009
@thefixisin: I have a pre-existing condition and a cousin who died a month ago from NOT having ANY health insurance.

Please don't spout off about this Health Reform Bill when you don't seem to care about all the facts.

I am SICK of progressives acting as if the Public Option was the ONLY part of this bill. It was ONE tiny part which can be added later.

You guys and the Teabaggers should form the "my way or the highway political whiners Party."
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exPatPatti
Eyes Wide Open
09:41 AM on 12/23/2009
Cosign!!!!
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1088
02:06 PM on 12/22/2009
Sanders wanted the expansion of Medicare and Lieberman make certain that it got drop for his vote, because he hates Progressives and don't them to win. Now, what if President wanted him to vote for the Public Option, and demanded it from him?
12:27 PM on 12/22/2009
says known liar Lieberman.

I could believe it, but I wouldn't believe it just because Joe says so.
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mainemomma
I don't want a micro bio
10:45 PM on 12/22/2009
We know he is lying because his lips are moving.
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
11:51 AM on 12/22/2009
Republicans gave paid homage to Big Insurance & PhRma (and had Democrats joining them) with the Medicare Reform Act of 2003. Normal people would have thought, "Well, that'll set them up for a generation, they've gotten their pay-offs along with the defense contractors and energy firms".

Wrong.

Obama and Democrats had to pay off Big Insurance & PhRma on their own after the 2008 election. Obama was the biggest recipient of insurance/hospital/PhRma money of all of the candidates. Hillary was the second biggest recipient.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.php?ind=H03

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.php?ind=H02

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.php?ind=H04

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.php?ind=H01

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.php?ind=F09

Obama and Rahm Emanuel made Blue Dogs stronger, more difficult to beat in 2010 and 2012 with the "go slow"/bipartisan approach. That didn't happen by any fluke; that was the plan. Rahm Emanuel hand-picked the Blue Dogs, ran them against REAL Democratic candidates in their states with the full power and money of the DCCC.
03:05 AM on 12/23/2009
Excellent post!
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
11:18 AM on 12/22/2009
People, mistakenly, have believed that Obama&Democrats want public health care.

If TheBushYears taught us nothing else, it's that anyone can sell anything to Americans, if you're stolid & relentless in your sales pitch & tactics. It's not that Bush&R0ve were geniuses & knew something that nobody else knew; Bush&R0ve were just more ruthless (clumsy & careless many political graybeards would say) in doing what politicians & the parties had gone to great lengths to hide from Americans.

Obama didn't get to be the first black president, vanquish the Clinton machine & the oldest, most experienced politicians in our nation's history (including the R0ve machine) by not having mastered these skills. Nor do Democratic politicians (more incumbents than ever, in office longer) not know how to do it. How do you think Democrats managed to keep impeaching Bush&Cheney off the table & have us still reelecting them, not marching on Washington with torches&pitchforks?

Obama&Democrats know how to do it -- They don't want to do it.

The trick for them has been to keep the many different populist groups believing that they really do support our issues, but that they're merely inept. And to get us to keep voting for them in spite of their failure to deliver on any of our alleged shared objectives.
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Marcospinelli
an old liberal Democrat, a 'New Deal'-Democrat
11:11 AM on 12/22/2009
Obama, in his own words:

"Meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public, no more secrecy.....No more secrecy.....":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQbQTrm_pSA

Transparency Will Be Touchstone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72g7qmeP1dE

"Clintons did health care the wrong way, behind closed doors":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvyharXBI0Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU0m6Rxm9vU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBtIKgGHYPQ

"On transparency", "About inviting the people back into their government again", and "Part of the job of the next American president is making Americans believe that our government is working for them, because right now they don't feel like it's working for them. They feel like it's working for special interests and it's working for corporations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K97hvOOdy_I

"We need a president who sees the government not as a tool to enrich well connected friends and high-priced lobbyists, but as a defender of fairness and opportunity for every single American. That's what this country's been about and that's the kind of president I intend to be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEMxfme7OQI

"The American people are the answer":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2cvru2TH-s

Obama's Transparency Problem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IODbwOhZYEM

Obama's campaign rhetoric was just that -- Rhetoric.
12:11 AM on 12/23/2009
so if the Senate had 5 more liberal Senators than they do and the Senate had passed a bill like th House, with a Public Option and more of the bill paid by taxes on the rich, Obama would have opposed it and not signed? Obama was signing whatever Congress passed...Obama might have had more influence, but he would have signed single payer if was what Congress had passed.
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hdohighdesertobserver
The high desert is a place in between
03:17 AM on 12/23/2009
Your simple argument carries far more weight than the former rave.
Palito
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04:05 AM on 12/23/2009
yes. Look how the WH fought hard to remove the possibility of reimporting drugs.... the WH easily defended their deals with phrma and insurance. Notice how the potential public option was watered down every day until it became useless and more expensive, which was exactly what the WH wanted it to be: a "sliver" and not meaningful item.

The reality is the deals with phrma and AHIP are the only reason there will be a bill this time. There was never any real possibility of a public option or strong regulation simply because the industry will not allow it.