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Christmas 'Miracle' As Mother, Infant Resuscitated After Showing No Signs Of Life During Labor

DAN ELLIOTT   12/29/09 11:25 PM ET   AP

Miracle Birth

DENVER — Mike Hermanstorfer was clutching his pregnant wife's hand in a Colorado hospital on Christmas Eve when she stopped breathing, her life apparently slipping away. Then he cradled his newborn son's limp body seconds after a medical team delivered the baby by Cesarean section.

Minutes later he saw his son show signs of life in his arms under the feverish attention of doctors, and soon he learned his wife had inexplicably started breathing again.

"My legs went out from underneath me," Hermanstorfer said Tuesday. "I had everything in the world taken from me, and in an hour and a half I had everything given to me."

Hermanstorfer's wife, Tracy, went into cardiac arrest and stopped breathing during labor on Thursday, said Dr. Stephanie Martin, a maternal fetal medicine specialist at Memorial Hospital in Colorado Springs, where the Hermanstorfers had gone for the birth of their son.

"She had no signs of life. No heartbeat, no blood pressure, she wasn't breathing," said Martin, who had rushed to Hermanstorfer's room to help. "The baby was, it was basically limp, with a very slow heart rate."

After their miraculous recovery, both mother and the baby, named Coltyn, appear healthy with no signs of problems, Martin said.

She said she cannot explain the mother's cardiac arrest or the recovery.

"We did a thorough evaluation and can't find anything that explains why this happened," she said.

Mike Hermanstorfer credits "the hand of God."

"We are both believers ... but this right here, even a nonbeliever – you explain to me how this happened. There is no other explanation," he said.

Asked about divine intervention, Martin said, "Wherever I can get the help, I'll take it."

Tracy Hermanstorfer, 33, was getting prepped for childbirth at the hospital Thursday morning and her 37-year-old husband was by her side when she began to feel sleepy and laid back in her bed.

"She literally stopped breathing and her heart stopped," her husband said. Pandemonium erupted as doctors and nurses tried to revive her with chest compressions and a breathing tube, but nothing worked.

"I was holding her hand when we realized she was gone," Hermanstorfer said. "My entire life just rolled out."

Doctors told him, "We're going to take your son out now. We have been unable to revive her and we're going to take your son out," he recalled.

After the Cesarean section, some of the team rushed his wife to the operating room while the others attended to Coltyn.

"They hand him to me, he's absolutely lifeless," Hermanstorfer said. The doctors went to work on Coltyn as Hermanstorfer held him, and soon he began to breath.

"His life began in my hands," Hermanstorfer said. "That's a feeling like none other. Life actually began in the palm of my hands."

Martin said Tracy Hermanstorfer's pulse returned even before she was wheeled out of the room and into surgery. She estimates Hermanstorfer had no heartbeat for about four minutes.

Hermanstorfer remembers getting sleepy and closing her eyes in her hospital bed, then awakening in the intensive care unit.

Friends have asked if she saw a light or had other experiences described by others who have survived near-death experiences, but she didn't.

"I just felt like I was asleep," she said.

When doctors told her what happened, "I'm like, 'Holy cow, was it that bad? Wow.'"

The Hermanstorfers returned Monday to their home in Security, just outside Colorado Springs about 65 miles south of Denver.

Both Mike and Tracy Hermanstorfer worry that she might have a recurrence. Martin said she can't offer the Hermanstorfers much advice because she doesn't know what caused the original problem.

On Tuesday, the couple celebrated a delayed Christmas with their 3-year-old son Kanyen and Tracy Hermanstorfer's 11-year-old son, Austin, from her previous marriage.

She plans to tell Coltyn about his birth when he's old enough to understand.

"I'll tell him everything ... that he's my miracle baby. That he had a tough time coming into this world, that he's my miracle baby and he's still here with us," she said.

She said Austin is worried and confused but the experience is improving his already-close relationship with Mike Hermanstorfer, his stepfather.

Kanyen doesn't understand much except that doctors had to work on his mom in the hospital, she said. His reaction was, "OK, we got the baby, let's go home now."

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Nosybear
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12:54 PM on 01/02/2010
There is of course a low positive probability of something like this happening without divine intervention. Sorry to burst your bubble, religious folks, but a miracle actually requires God violate his own laws and in this case, no law of nature was violated, only a low probability event occurred. That said, I'm happy for the family that Fate smiled on them.
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Guitanguran
11:30 AM on 01/04/2010
"That said, I'm happy for the family that Fate smiled on them."

?
06:40 PM on 01/01/2010
Did she have an epidural??? http://www.healing-arts.org/mehl-madrona/mmepidural.htm#medical_risks_epidurals_rates Number 14 is // Maternal Heart Attack or Spinal Cord Ischemia:
The lack of ability of the heart to pump blood around the body (from low blood pressure or pooling of blood) can become so severe that a heart attack occurs or the spinal cord will suffer damage from not enough blood reaching it.//
That could explain what happened and the hospital just doesn't want to say.
05:50 PM on 12/31/2009
By chance, some things live, and by chance, some do not. But that chance is always a factor of many things, some not even known to us yet due to the fact that many people continue to count on these 'miracles', instead of studying what really happened. To say it is a miracle is to not believe in cause and effect. Which is just ignorance, really.
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Guitanguran
08:34 AM on 01/01/2010
"To say it is a miracle is to not believe in cause and effect. Which is just ignorance, really."

In the absence of an explanation by the medical personnel in attendance as to how something like this could happen, I think the possibilities should then be cast wide open. One of the possibilities in this case could be intervention by a superior being. If you're not willing to entertain that as a possibility, it is you that showing ignorance. You are also being narrow minded.

I'm reminded of a film clip about intelligent design where famed atheist Dr. Dawkins considered aliens from another planet, highly advanced, that introduced life forms to this planet as a possible explanation for the origin of life here. He admitted that he had no explanation of how life started on this planet, and that exploring the alien visitor hypothesis would be a worthwhile area of research.

Aliens from another planet? One of the most respected proponents of atheism thinks aliens might have visited earth with the purpose of creating a biological experiment, so to speak?

So hypothesizing a superior being is causitive agent for these two surviving death is ignorance?

Psalms 14:1 "The fool (that is to say someone with no sense) has said in his heart, 'There is no God.' "
02:13 PM on 01/01/2010
I could care less what some so-called proponent of Atheism says is possible. But, to tell you the truth, I would believe in lifeforms from another planet before I would believe in a superior being. Why? Because science has proven that with the right conditions, life can flourish. Example: Homo Sapiens. If those conditions are met on another planet, maybe one like ours, then it is completely possible. But until I see proof that they've mastered interstellar travel and had a hand in our creation, or proof of any other being or maybe even a god had their hand in it, I will continue to follow the path that I've chosen, and say that yes, there is no God.

Also, as I've said here before, if there was a God, he would be more proud of Atheists for using the logic he supposedly gave us to come to our own conclusions, instead of blindly following some scripture that was written by another man.

So I'm open to anything, if there's evidence for it, otherwise you're just blinding your view towards life with your pride and dedication towards something you don't even know exists. How sad that must be for you.
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Nosybear
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12:57 PM on 01/02/2010
So.... What natural law was violated? In the absence of a violation of natural law, the thinking person (the kind Psalms apparently discounts as a fool) applies Occam's Razor and assumes the unobservable, unmeasurable spirit whose 'plan' most closely resembles random chance was not involved, rather some accident, happy as it may be, of physiology and circumstance.
05:35 PM on 12/31/2009
It's a *Miracle!

*of modern medicine
08:03 PM on 12/30/2009
"We are both believers ... but this right here, even a nonbeliever – you explain to me how this happened. There is no other explanation," he said.

Logic FAIL
06:17 PM on 12/30/2009
I have a good friend who's heart stopped right after birth, both times, during her deliveries.
One baby was blue (nat), the other breech (c-sec).
Without medical intervention (i.e. science) her first delivery would have failed to revive her or the baby and she would have perished. The second, was a near overdose of pitocin as she tried to deliver naturally before a C-sec. The baby was fine but, her heart was restarted with adrenaline because it stopped from shock.

Our bodies are wonders of nature. A function to behold. Our understanding is so much greater than it was even only a century ago. How we continually rely on the unexplainable to be answered by faith based presumptions rather than actuality and fact through logic just boggles the mind.

Even though, some may say, both her babies are miracles because her births were difficult, she knows that her births were difficult because her pelvis was malformed and she suffered from minor heart palpitations that became severe during birth.

Answers explained.
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Guitanguran
12:04 AM on 12/31/2009
"Our bodies are wonders of nature. A function to behold."

Psalm 139:14 "I am fearfully and wonderfully made..."

Considering David wrote this about 1000 BC, I find it interesting that he pretty much follows along with you (or maybe you with him) without the benefit of modern medical knowledge.

What David as a believer was doing was giving credit to his Creator. Would you expect a believer to do something less than ascribe a blessing he received to his Creator? I would hope not.

It certainly didn't prevent those folks from going to a hospital and depending on the knowledge and skill of medical personnel, irrespective if any of those medical personnel believed in God, or not.

It certainly isn't going to change how those folks practice medicine or how research is conducted, or what new things are learned in the field of medicine.

Lay off, willya?
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Nosybear
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12:58 PM on 01/02/2010
I am fearfully and wonderfully made, I agree. I simply disagree on the agent. Yours in not observable - to observe God would require either he show himself or that something occur, caused, to violate natural law. My agent is random chance over billions of years, not as dramatic nor as comforting but a wonder nonetheless.
06:03 PM on 12/30/2009
Sounds to me like a sedative overdose.
02:58 PM on 12/30/2009
There are some gaps in this story, which may or may not be due to the father not being the best medical historian and getting caught up in the emotion of what just happened to him. In the span of a few minutes he nearly lost both his wife and his newborn child. I don't know enough to say whether this event would truly be considered a miracle, but why are the naysayers who foam at the mouth at any mention of God or religion so threatened by this story? How is it hurting you? To suggest that it's an insult to doctors and nurses, or that scientific research will in some way be jeopardized if people believe in miracles is absurd. For what it is worth, at least from the Catholic perspective, it is nearly impossible to get any unexplained medical event deemed a miracle. Look up the 65 documented and accepted miracles that happened at Lourdes, France. The number of faithful who believe they experienced a miracle at Lourdes greatly outnumbers the cases that were found to be miraculous because the criteria is so strict. Still, a person who believes they experienced a miracle hurts no one except someone who is so rotten at their core that they can't stand anything good happening to others.
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jdbond
03:01 PM on 12/30/2009
Can I say G od ki lled the baby but doctors saved it?
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primordialsoup
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03:03 PM on 12/30/2009
How is thinking rationally "rotten at their core"? If you've read the posts, the critics mostly have voiced their happiness that the mother and child survived. The criticism is the contention that this was a case of divine intervention - something that there is absolutely no evidence to support.
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jdbond
03:06 PM on 12/30/2009
Everyone has g od given right to be irrational. To oppose that indeed is like ...
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Guitanguran
03:17 PM on 12/30/2009
mostly?
02:50 PM on 12/30/2009
I have a prediction. In a thousand years time science will be no where close to explaining the origin of the universe, how to embody a machine with a sense of consiousness, what exists beyond the end of the universe. At that point science will conclude that the only rational explanation is that God created it all. In effect, the existance of God will be proven and accepted by science.
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jdbond
02:57 PM on 12/30/2009
As long as it's freemarket predicting!! Who wouldn't want to hear prediction from someone who probably has nothing to do with science!

But as long science has been given 1000 years to prove it, I might just as well hold my breath.
04:29 PM on 12/30/2009
You didn't do very well in middle school science did you?

It's obvious that you don't have a clue as to what sciences does, or what it even is.
02:43 PM on 12/30/2009
ok, so according to democrats we should all pray to St. Darwin and deny St. Peter. What I don't understand is how did the world get created if God did not do it? And what is this nagging sense of consciousness and self awareness that I perceive?
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jdbond
02:47 PM on 12/30/2009
You can take them out of sh it but cannot take sh it out of them. They need saint!

"What I don't understand is how did the world get created if God did not do it?"

If we needed any proof of complete failure of education system in this country.
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Guitanguran
02:51 PM on 12/30/2009
Rather than comment on the education system (a democrat/union institution btw) failiure...

How about answering the guy's question?
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primordialsoup
I have a micro-bio, therefore I am.
02:49 PM on 12/30/2009
Let's see, science attempts to explain nature using evidence. Religion attempts to explain nature using conjecture. Gee, evidence or conjecture. Hard decision, isn't it?
02:54 PM on 12/30/2009
But if God blinked it all into being and started the evolution clock running, science has to recognize that possibility.
02:37 PM on 12/30/2009
ok, so the democrat party does not believe in God. Do I have that straight?
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primordialsoup
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02:40 PM on 12/30/2009
The "democrat" party may very well not believe in god. The Democratic Party, on the other hand has many Christians in it's ranks.
02:44 PM on 12/30/2009
Ok, so you all have some Christians in your ranks. But you think they are idiots, right?
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primordialsoup
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08:06 PM on 12/30/2009
"its".
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02:40 PM on 12/30/2009
Huh?
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SolarPowerGuy
Ph.D., Immunology; Solar power @ home; Green Party
02:32 PM on 12/30/2009
This is a very interesting, mysterious, and even heart-warming story. However, please compare and contrast:

"Mike Hermanstorfer credits 'the hand of God.' 'We are both believers ... but this right here, even a nonbeliever – you explain to me how this happened. There is no other explanation,' he said."

"Both Mike and Tracy Hermanstorfer worry that she might have a recurrence."

If God intervened once, to restore life to this mother and child -- what could God possibly be thinking, if he should refuse to intervene a second time?
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Guitanguran
02:35 PM on 12/30/2009
My guess is that they're not perfect.

Who knew?
02:39 PM on 12/30/2009
Am I correct to say you challenge the judgement of God as much as you question the policy positions of Dick Cheney?
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jdbond
02:51 PM on 12/30/2009
judgment of God? Someone knows God personally! And we all thought only Je sus pulled that one out(or may be few angels);)
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SolarPowerGuy
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02:54 PM on 12/30/2009
Yes, and you can fan me for it if you like. :^)
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gaysofla
02:30 PM on 12/30/2009
I found the conversation between the “No God” and “Go God” readers very interesting, especially after my own recent ‘near-death’ experience.

A week before Thanksgiving I suffered a pulmonary embolism. November 20, 2009, I slipped into a coma for two weeks. During my long sleep I flat lined twice. When a patient displays a cardiac flat line, successful resuscitation is generally unlikely, and is inversely related to the length of time spent attempting resuscitation....bascially clinically dead.

After finally waking up, I asked my best friend and room mate Geo where we were going for Thanksgiving. “Uh David,” he replied, “Thanksgiving was last week.”

I don’t remember seeing any bright lights, Ieven though I had some weird dreams.

Not a religious person, I’m not so iquick to thank God for bringing me ‘back’. Instead, I thank the doctors and nurses of http://www.memorialpembroke.com/ , my many friends who sat with me and rubbed my hair and had one-sided conversations with me, and even those who prayed for me.

If there's a higher power, thanks for the 2nd chance But if there's no God, I remain thankful for the opportunity to see 2010 and hope I’ll use whatever remaining time I have here on this earth to do good and bring joy and happiness to those around me. Whatever you belief, I'm sure we can agree that the story had a happy ending for the Hermanstorfer family and we should all rejoice.
02:35 PM on 12/30/2009
Congrats on your recovery, pulmonary embolisms aren't fun for sure.
And thank you for mentioning your doctors and nurses, as someone who works in healthcare, it’s always appreciated to hear “Thanks”
03:03 PM on 12/30/2009
Wow!
02:19 PM on 12/30/2009
And yet another question:

If g0d is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent, doesn't that mean he knows all of our lives and how they are going to turn out before we are even born?

But he creates us, right?

So that means he's creating people that he knows aren't going to accept him, never will, and he goes and creates people in advance that he knows are going to burn for all eternity anyway. Sure, maybe we have free choice, but he already knows the outcome, and goes and makes these non-believers anyway.

Why would he do something like that?
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primordialsoup
I have a micro-bio, therefore I am.
02:23 PM on 12/30/2009
Ooh, ooh, I know! God works in mysterious ways, right?
02:29 PM on 12/30/2009
Survey says ! Yes!
You get your very own jesus-fish thingie to put on the back of a heathens car while they aren't watching.
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Guitanguran
02:34 PM on 12/30/2009
Ah, Predestination, the Calvinist Conundrum.

You picked a good one. How indeed can we have the free will to choose, and yet God know sthe outcome which ultimately means He knows in advance if you're going to Heaven or not, so why bother?

If it worked as described, why have a human race at all?

Yet, we're here.

My best shot is God doesn't interfere with our free will irrespective of what he knows in advance. Maybe that's the one thing he leaves up in the air. Hard to understand when the Creator you're dealing with exists in all time zones, all at once, all the way to infinity.

It does beat the heck out of believing in some spontaneous generation of life that comes from...what?
04:31 PM on 12/31/2009
Fail.

1) You just contradicted the entire premise. You state that it is "the one thing he leaves up in the air." But then you claim he exists in all time zone, all at once, all the way to infinity."

Say what? So let me get the straight. God knows all, sees all, feels all, past present and future, but when it comes to our free will, he closes his eyes, sticks his fingers in his ears, and screams "nya-nya-nya, I can't hear me", to himself?

That's just rich.

2) "...spontaneous generation of life that comes from (nothing)"

Who believes that? Who has ever even proposed, theorized, hypothesized, or tried to prove that?
02:15 PM on 12/30/2009
And another thing: If G0d is so great, why did he need the doctors there? Couldn't G0d just make the mess he caused in the first place to just go away with a wave of his magic underwear?
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SolarPowerGuy
Ph.D., Immunology; Solar power @ home; Green Party
02:35 PM on 12/30/2009
A man is sitting on his porch as flood waters rise. A woman floats by in a boat, asking if the man needs help. "No, thank you," says the man, "I'm trusting in the Lord."

The waters rise higher, sending the man upstairs. A raft full of people floats by his second story window. "Get in," they say, "there's plenty of room." "No thanks," says the man, "I'm trusting in the Lord."

The flood waters keep rising, pushing the man up to the roof. A helicopter swoops in, lowering its ladder for the man. "Thanks anyway," shouts the man, "I'm trusting in the Lord."

Finally, the man is swept away in the torrent and drowns. At the gates of Heaven, the man asks God, "Why didn't you save me?" "What?'' replies God, "I sent you two boats and a helicopter!"
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jdbond
02:52 PM on 12/30/2009
I wonder if the woman and others who came to help were all non-believers.
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anitaj
01:34 PM on 12/31/2009
Can God make a burrito so hot that even he can't eat it?
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SolarPowerGuy
Ph.D., Immunology; Solar power @ home; Green Party
02:27 AM on 01/02/2010
Ah yes, the ever-popular Omnipotence Paradox!

(Don't tell the believers, there are solutions to this one.)