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Latest Public Option Concession Comes Into Focus

First Posted: 03/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:05 PM ET

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With several prominent House Democrats acknowledging that they will likely have to give up a public option for insurance coverage in health care reform negotiations with the Senate, the focus has shifted to what concessions they can extract in return.

The main issue on the radar is to try and ensure that newly created health insurance exchanges are national (the House version) and not state-based (the Senate version), say sources on and off the Hill.

"That's where people are going to be looking," said Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.) when asked if this would be the key compromise if the public option is dropped. "I'm going to give you my own view, which is the House view, which is that I think we need a federal insurance exchange.... I think we've got to look closely at this. I think that it's much easier... to keep insurance companies in check -- it is simpler to administer. We're going to have a checkerboard here [with the Senate bill]. And also I think you have to take a look at the political reality. Implementing reform is going to be much more difficult in some states than in others."

Progressive activists, in addition to well-respected health care reform advocates, feel the same way. A national health insurance exchange, they argue, has the potential to fundamentally change the accessibility and affordability of insurance. Set up as a virtual market in which consumers have a list of policies from which to pick and choose (think Expedia.com but for health insurance), it would be limited to small businesses and individual buyers. Moreover, state governments, if they meet certain standards of accessibility and regulatory oversight, will have the option to opt out. But the prospect of having providers compete side-by-side -- unlike some of the monopolized markets that exist today -- with the federal government in a regulatory role, is an obvious and alluring way to reduce costs.

The Senate, by contrast, has structured its legislation differently -- choosing to set up exchanges in individual states that in turn would be regulated by state governments. Such a structure may prove effective in lowering costs but likely on a lesser scale. It also will cater better to local health care needs and markets. But the concern is that it won't foster the type of institutionalized competition, risk-spreading and purchasing power that one national exchange presents.

"The Senate is a weaker version, a more insurance-friendly version," said one progressive health care activist. "The state-based exchanges are weaker on the structural level because you have less number of people in these exchanges. There would be more competition and lower prices in the national variety. But also, state-based exchanges would be a lot more subject to the insurance industry lobby."

Diane Archer, the director of the Health Care Project at the Institute for America's Future, also commented on the preference for a national exchange over the state variety in a small entry at the Washington Post's Website.

"The single biggest weakness in the Senate bill is its reliance on states to implement the exchanges," she writes. "The federal government should implement the law in a uniform way and relieve the states of the burden of setting up whole new insurance markets and regulatory structures -- unless they choose to and demonstrate their ability to -- as the House bill provides. And, we need the will, skill, resources and power of the federal government to ensure that the insurers behave. History and experience suggest the states will almost always be outgunned by the insurers. The states should hold complementary regulatory authority over the insurers and also have the right to innovate and improve the insurance market."

Faced with the likelihood that a government-run insurance option will be scrapped when the Senate and House hold their conference committee to mesh their respective pieces of legislation, Democratic lawmakers are now going more public with these arguments. DeLauro, for one, stressed that the debate over the public option "was never just about the public option for the public option."

"It was about: where's the competition?" she added. "People can choose something and still not have any choices in the selection."

But, as has been the case with the entire reform process, there are impediments. Conservative Democrats in the Senate are wary of creating a new bureaucratic regulatory structure to oversee a newly-created national exchange -- preferring instead to rely on already existing state regulatory bodies. And the argument for a more federalist approach also holds deep sway inside the corridors of that chamber.

"It's hard to imagine how Ben Nelson would get on board with national exchanges," said one health care reform activist. "The states rights/every state is different argument" is an impediment.

Not everyone thinks Nelson will draw a line in the sand when it comes to the structure of the exchange. But one senator is all it takes to derail the entire reform process. And if the conference committee chooses not to make too much hay over this aspect of reform, there are other policy battles that the progressive community will wage. Jon Walker, over at FireDogLake for instance, has penned an essay making the case that Democrats should demand that some of the benefits of reform (including the exchanges themselves) kick in well before their slated date of 2014 -- citing the policy and political sense of accelerated action.

"If there was any one single completely terrible political decision made by Democrats during this health care debate, it was to 'save money' by delaying the start of reform," he writes. "This is an act of political foolishness so profound, I'm, to this day, at a loss for words. Making the bill appear $100-300 billion cheaper simply is not worth the medium term political damage that delaying reform will do to the Democrats."


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With several prominent House Democrats acknowledging that they will likely have to give up a public option for insurance coverage in health care reform negotiations with the Senate, the focus has shif...
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Divide and Conquer
09:18 AM on 01/04/2010
This women gives me the creeps, like she is still in the 60's Mod fashion mood.
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blaster8
11:46 PM on 01/03/2010
House Democrats need to put the Senate Democrats on the defensive by pushing for re importation of medications. How can a fiscal conservative argue against saving between 20% and 80% on prescriptions?
Don't give me that argument of safety!
How arrogant can we be to believe that we are the only ones concerned with drug safety?!

If the Senate Democrats want to portray themselves as fiscal conservative then make them approve re-importation of drugs.
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03:48 PM on 01/03/2010
why won't my post show up here???????
02:34 PM on 01/03/2010
Hi Roy Orbison!
04:20 PM on 01/03/2010
I would gladly pay my fair share of taxes in order for me and my family to walk in and out a hospital or doctors office with no payment due. Only those who have large amounts of income and/or stocks and bonds would think that the current system works. Or they are on Medicare or some other public option covering their needs but could care less about the rest of America.

You want American families to spend twice as much as necessary $12,000 - $15,000 per year in premiums another $2,000 or $3000 in co-pays, $500 - 1000 deductibles per person, and then be told that the in-house Doctors bill is too high and offer to pay 40% of the bill so that you pay even more or the Doctor doesnt get paid?

Sorry, but ethical insurance coverage doesn't work that way. This system doesnt work.
There is no VALUE today in a FOR PROFIT HEALTH INSURANCE POLICY

This system is broken and complaining about taxes taxes taxes is one small part of the issue.
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stargazer13
To Love One Is To Love All
01:27 PM on 01/03/2010
tax poem pending it is just a poem mod !!
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stargazer13
To Love One Is To Love All
01:19 PM on 01/03/2010
Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he's fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his work,
Tax his pay,
He works for peanuts
Anyway!

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his pants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his _ _ _.

Tax all he has
Then let him know
That you won't be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers,
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He's good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he's laid.

Put these words
Upon his tomb,
"Taxes drove me

to my doom..."

When he's gone,
Do not relax,
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To Love One Is To Love All
01:19 PM on 01/03/2010
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
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Liquor Tax
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State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
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Workers Compensation Tax
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stargazer13
To Love One Is To Love All
01:26 PM on 01/03/2010
these are just a few of the taxes we have inherited in the last 100 years

I need a tax break can not afford to pay for lack of employment

can,t keep up with just the taxes any more !! but I did honestly try !!
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06:39 PM on 01/03/2010
That's more depressing than anything.
Did you download the poem from the Democrats mission statement?
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stargazer13
To Love One Is To Love All
11:57 AM on 01/04/2010
no copied it from my son,s e-mail to me !!

this has nothing to do with D or R because it does not matter who you are ! you will pay regardless of party !!
12:39 PM on 01/03/2010
Insurers do NOT provide care. They take in dollars and pay out dollars based on a written contract commonly called an insurance policy. They try to take in as much as possible and pay out as little as possible as they are a for profit enterprise.

Any for-profit company would, and that’s OK except this is HEALTH INSURANCE and peoples lives are at stake. If loads of insureds decide the public option is better, the insurers will LOWER premiums or INCREASE coverage to compete. We pay 2X more than any industrialized country and the so called QUALITY of the Services places us right above Slovenia at 37th in the industrialized world according to independent experts.

In other words there is very little VALUE in the policy. Its been eroding for decades. Would you pay $10.00 for a Big Mac and then be told that sorry, but we can only afford to give you one patty and no secret sauce and oh by the way you must buy one or we will fine you ? I like my secret sauce and I like single payer.
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beauboy
01:50 AM on 01/03/2010
Single Payer, Public Option: Anything else would be getting close, but afraid to step on the toes of the Insurance Companies, Lobbyist bought, right wing Congressmen and Senators. I'm glad to see this little dog and pony show is about to come to an end. i don't see how the legislators on the right can reach out their bhands to pick up their pay check. God knows they haven't earned one lousy penny.

The only hope we have of ending up with a decent health reform package, is to have provisions in the new bill that will allow the Federal government to oversee how the new coverage is being dispensed, and to use it's power and influence to make sure the Insurers stay within a reasonable profit margin.

The decades of "cherry picking" for healthy insurees should be over, but insurers have used this tactic to boost the bottom line for ages,and they are probably looking at options at this time.
09:51 AM on 01/03/2010
You do not think that less than 3% profit is reasonable? Not many companies could do business with less than 3% profit.
12:31 PM on 01/03/2010
Successful companies do business all the time with 3% profit margin. It depends on how BIG they are. Most insurers run mightily with a 95-100% loss ratio. How? Because they invest the premiums. Many insurers/reinsurers make 20-30% annually in investment income. They pay losses at a slower rate than they take in premium.

Our leaders have been brokered or bought and sold. They are either completely incompetent or totally dishonest.

This is why the way the current bill is structured, its a gift to the health insurers. They increase their market share gigantically, they can charge whatever they want and everyone MUST buy. This is the PERFECT design by the insurance lobby.

Maybe we should fire all Congressmen and Senators and hire the lobbiyists as our reps. We might actually be able to get what Americans really need.

Single Payer now. Everyone pays the same. Every American is covered. Period.
12:16 AM on 01/03/2010
The public option amendment should now start becoming the number one thing to target the opposition with. Simple clear cut and straight forward, with no obfuscation and lies to hide behind. American lives or corporate profits, force the choice in 2010. Try to pass the amendment right before the election and if it fails do it right after the election. Of course there will be 45,000 less Americans to vote for those that support the public option but don't let their lives be lost in vain.
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10:53 PM on 01/02/2010
I could support the public option if it had an opt out feature. If I opt out then I pay nothing towards the public option and I do not get to use it. Those that want a public option pay into it and get to use it. This whole thing is people wanting someone else to pay their bills.
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Doyaun De Valda-Martinez
04:17 AM on 01/03/2010
Could you also be a fan of removing the Hospital's mandate to treat any patient regardless of Insurance? In other words, if you opt out of National Insurance, and out of your own personal insurance, then you get no treatment and can die in the streets? I mean I don't want to just let people die, but when we use the words want others to..."pay their bills", I see an equivocation that freedom does not mean freedom to die for choosing not to protect oneself.

Also you would in essence be paying your bills when you have to have some form of insurance if NOT a public option. So if you are putting a little money down (unless truly impoverished then there would be a subsidy) and taking care of things while healthy when you are sick there is that healthcare. Because without it every time a person uses an emergency room and never pays their medical bills the rates go up and the guy with Insurance pays the bill or federal/state aid comes in to play. Big pictures are often missed.
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09:01 AM on 01/03/2010
If we don't eat then we will starve to death, does this mean grocery stores should be required to give away food to the hungry? Of course not and in response to the problem of hungry people charities have sprung up to help them and the same would happen with charity hospitals.
09:53 AM on 01/03/2010
Agree. If we opted out of the public option, then it would not have the money to operate. They rely on our money. Spreading the wealth has been the mantra of this administration from the begingin. Let work to stop them.
04:50 PM on 01/02/2010
To Kurfoo and others who don't understand the difference between the state and national:

There is an anti-trust law in place which allows the states to determine what companies can seel insurance in their state. The House plan would abolish this law. The Senate plan keeps it in place.
11:45 PM on 01/01/2010
How does the national, as opposed to state level, insurance exchange differ from what Republicans have been advocating, namely enabling insurers to sell across state lines? I'm for being able to buy insurance across state lines. I have never understood why insurance premiums should be based on the actuarial experience of the insureds of one employer or one state, as opposed to those of all people of a particular age. The bigger the pool, the better the estimation of cost, the more competitive the pricing between insurers.
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Doyaun De Valda-Martinez
04:23 AM on 01/03/2010
A good reason is the economic investment that states have in their own healthcare needs. Some states may be complacent on the degree of healthcare provided and therefore have weaker health conditions of it's citizens. Then when thinking of the risk the insurance company may be exposed to when 70 percent of a state is obese, smoking, or highly prone to heart disease...well that state would raise national premiums in a national plan. Now pay attenton i am not advocating a state by state version of a national concept. I am saying that Healthcare reform must involve more than just premium costs. Inprove the health of the nation and rates will drop. one step in doing this is providing healthcare to as many citizens as possible so they can remain healthy from a young age OR so they can improve their health and decrease their reliance on high cost solutions to advanced illness.
09:04 PM on 01/01/2010
1. There SHOULD be a public option. (Absolutely necessary to keep prices down)

2. There should absolutely NOT be a mandate to purchase health insurance. (One of the worst mistakes in the history of the Democratic party if they implement a mandate)

3. There should not be a provision to provide for abortions in the Healthcare bill. (I'm pro-choice but I can see the other sides point of view)

Anyone voting on this bill should insist that these three points be included or it should not pass.
08:54 PM on 01/01/2010
Not one Progressive Demo in the House has the dignity to stand up
and fight for a Public Option. Roll over you little doggies, now bark!