Buffalo's Debt Collectors Allegedly Using Illegal Tactics To Intimidate Debtors

CAROLYN THOMPSON AND DAVID B. CARUSO   01/ 5/10 03:06 PM ET   AP

Illegal Debt Collector
Several Buffalo Collections Agencies Have Been Accused Of Illegally Bullying Debtors

BUFFALO, N.Y. — When Tobias "Bags of Money" Boyland went looking for a new career after serving 13 years in prison for armed robbery and drug dealing, he quickly found something that suited his sensibilities: He opened a collection agency.

It was, in some ways, a natural move for a young man in Buffalo. Desperate for jobs, this chronically depressed Rust Belt city has become home to one of the biggest concentrations of debt collection businesses in the U.S.

"Collections is the Bethlehem Steel of Buffalo," said Boyland, 44, recalling the industrial giant that once employed 20,000 people in the region. "You can make a decent living in a town where there isn't a lot of opportunity."

Between 5,000 and 6,000 people earning $30,000 to $40,000 a year now work at roughly 110 collection agencies in and around Buffalo, an industry created with the help of seed money from the state of New York. The industry has been a rare economic bright spot in Buffalo, the nation's third-poorest city of its size, a place where 30 percent of the people live in poverty.

Yet, law enforcement and consumer groups point to a dark side: Buffalo, they say, has also become a center for some of the worst elements in the business. Debt collectors, some of them convicted felons, have illegally posed as lawyers or unlawfully browbeat people – threatening to have them arrested or stripped of custody of their children – to scare them into making payments.

"Get some clean clothes because you're not coming home any time soon," one debtor was told.

As the sour economy leaves people less and less able to pay their debts, the collection abuses have become so flagrant and numerous that state and federal authorities have moved to shut down several Buffalo-area agencies where the most heartless and bullying telephone calls originated. At least 20 people have been sued or arrested on criminal charges.

Boyland himself was forced out of business and jailed in June after authorities said they caught him carrying a loaded, unlicensed pistol as they investigated more than 1,000 complaints about abusive tactics at his collection business.

The regional Better Business Bureau said that in the past three years, it has gotten 4,562 complaints about debt collection agencies in western New York. Of 213 agencies it has graded in the region, 104 were given an "F." And of all the complaints about debt collection received by the Better Business Bureau nationwide last year, about 1 in 10 involved a company in western New York.

Collection agencies began sprouting in Buffalo in the mid-1990s as a spinoff of the city's then-growing back-office and financial-services sector. Like other businesses operating big customer-service call centers, the collection companies were drawn to Buffalo by its inexpensive office space and its willing and affordable work force.

A state development agency has sweetened the pot since 2001 with $1.2 million in grants to four collection agencies. It gave an additional $400,000 in October to a collection company that plans to double its work force with 50 new hires.

"Almost everyone knows someone whose son or daughter has worked for a collection agency," said David Polino, president of the . "This is one of the industries that used to be Bethlehem Steel, the Chevy plant – all the places where you used to get out of high school and find employment 35 or 40 years ago, it's now call centers." Better Business Bureau of Upstate New York

Industry supporters blame many of the worst complaints on small firms operating on the fringe.

Twenty-eight of the region's collection agencies have a grade of "A" from the BBB for generating few complaints while setting up repayment plans for delinquent credit card accounts, medical bills or loans.

"The vast majority are great businesses that benefit the local economy, do a good job, are respectful, and then you've got a few that are just wacko," said John Nemo, spokesman for the Association of Credit and Collection Professionals, a trade group with 3,500 members.

Boyland blamed the problems at his nine companies on unsupervised employees who abused a chance to make good money. Twelve of his former workers have been arrested and charged with offenses including posing as law enforcement officers to intimidate people into paying debts.

When "Dateline NBC" did a segment on Boyland's business in March, Boyland appeared unrepentant, writing on his Web site that he was "laughing all the way to the bank." But in a recent interview with The Associated Press, he was more contrite, saying he wouldn't have condoned such "ludicrous" tactics.

"Who can build a successful business model from that? It's not possible," he said.

Nationally, the Federal Trade Commission received more than 78,000 complaints about third-party debt collectors in 2008 and announced civil judgments of more than $1 million against agencies. The 2008 complaint total, the most recent complete-year figure available, was more than twice that of 2003. No other industry generated more calls.

For the first half of 2009, the FTC logged 45,050 complaints, an increase of nearly one-third from the same period in 2008.

While the bad economy has been partly responsible for the rise in complaints, another factor has been the emergence of companies that buy portfolios of old debts and make another stab at collecting, often more aggressively. Virtually anyone can buy into the business and get access to the personal information needed to collect a debt – including people with criminal records.

Over the past year, the New York attorney general's office has picked off some of the companies that generated the most outrageous complaints, including threatening debtors with phony lawsuits or trying to embarrass them by phoning employers and neighbors, both illegal under federal law.

"The tactics allegedly used here are some of the worst of the worst in the debt collection business," Attorney General Andrew Cuomo said in announcing a dozen arrests in September. "The defendants' alleged lies, deceit and intimidation caused many innocent people to pay money they didn't owe just to stop the terrifying calls."

Threatening to have people arrested for failing to pay a debt is also illegal, but that has been happening, too.

Michelle Minton of Springville said she was home alone with her two toddlers when someone claiming to be a lawyer for a collection firm phoned her, told her she owed $2,100 and said a warrant had been issued for her arrest. The only way out, he said, was for her to make a payment immediately.

"If your husband can't make it home from work, your children will have to go to Social Services," he told her.

Minton was certain there had been a mistake, but panicked and gave the caller access to her bank account, which was quickly drained of $900. She found out later the debt was owed by someone else.

"Forty-five minutes of bullying and they got $900," she said.

She and her husband tracked the call to a Buffalo company that has been the subject of other complaints. Cuomo's office is suing the business.

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David B. Caruso reported from New York City.

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07:44 PM on 01/06/2010
I bet they did not take any bail out money. Its amazing what people will do when government stays out.
01:24 PM on 01/06/2010
So who is running the debt collection in Buffalo?

The Sopranos?

or some other family?
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12:59 PM on 01/06/2010
The sleazy collection practices of these companies has little to do with Buffalo as a city. The depressed economic environment makes people so desperate for jobs that they have no choice but to take these jobs. Buffalo, NY is also a city full of friendly, old fashioned "neighborly" neighborhoods, amazingly affordable housing, (there's been no "bubble collapse" in prices here, so people have not been devastated financially) gorgeous 19th century architecture, a major university, a park system designed by Frederick Law Olmsted, three Frank Lloyd Wright buildings, an absence of "sprawl" that plagues almost everywhere else, and many other hidden features other cities would die for.
01:54 AM on 01/06/2010
It would be nice the people in power would actually listen to Volcker, and perhaps apply his ideas. Instead, the 'too big to fail' mindset dominates
good articles; http://iamned123.blogspot.com/
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12:33 AM on 01/06/2010
You've got to question the Morality of the collection agency personnel when they proclaim
" I'm a personal Investor in the Company...when are you paying up.....especially when it's
Penny Mac....yes the Countrywide break off. Da Mob...
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12:31 AM on 01/06/2010
I wrote a cease and desist order on a fraudulent charge! if you site the statute and go by the law of informing them to stop harassment they will be forced by law to stop! and also if you state that no third party is to be informed of your personal information even credit agency's they must comply!
Americans do not take the time to read the law and that is how they keep getting away with it!
11:00 PM on 01/05/2010
First and foremost nobody can get an arrest warrant issued ex parte in a civil
case. That is absolutely ridiculous. If some idiot claims on the phone he can
do that feel free to laugh in his ear, he can't. Remember NEVER answer ANY
questions asked by someone who calls you on the phone. Heck NEVER answer
questions above and beyond identifying yourself to any law enforcement official
Invoke the 5th amendment. ALWAYS tell these buffoons immediately to not call
you again and put ALL communications in writing. Then demand in writing to
provide all information establishing the debt AND their standing. I've never
heard from them again after that. It's work and they are lazy bastards.
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10:37 PM on 01/05/2010
Why do ya think they call 'em the Buffalo BILLS?
10:27 PM on 01/05/2010
Don't pay! We won't pay for their crisis!
Don't pay! We won't pay for their crisis!
Don't pay! We won't pay for their crisis!
Don't pay! We won't pay for their crisis!
Don't pay! We won't pay for their crisis!
Don't pay! We won't pay for their crisis!
Don't pay! We won't pay for their crisis!
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GerryS
There they are--
10:17 PM on 01/05/2010
Buffalo????

Is there a right wing christian mega-church there?

I thought Rev. Rickie's church was in CA-----------------------
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Graywolf48
If you’re not at the table, you’re on the menu
09:48 PM on 01/05/2010
Essentially here's what a debt collector can do without an attorney, not much. Using an attorney they can sue you in civil court and obtain a judgment. If you get a notice to appear in civil court you don't have to go. If you don't go, the creditor will get a default judgment which will include interest (about 30%) and attorneys fees. The judgment is good for 10 years and can be renewed for another 10 years for a total of 20 years. Once they have a judgment, they can execute it by going to court for a wage garnishment plan or seizure of assets. If you are a wage earner, they can garnish up to 25% of your disposable income, that's money left over after you pay your rent, car payment, groceries, utilities, etc. If they find you have a savings/checking account, they can seize the account(s) without notification. If you own real property (a home) they can record the judgment against it making it impossible to sell or transfer the property without paying them first. If you have a low wage job, no house or money in the bank, you are essentially "judgment proof" meaning your creditors have nothing but paper that may be worth something if you make good in the future. Know the law, learn your rights. You can always declare bankruptcy when you're ready.
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DebtNavigation
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10:53 AM on 01/06/2010
Please do not quote the length of validity for judgments. They are not uniform from state to state. Additionally, there are states that do not have garnishment (Texas) or where garnishment is difficult to obtain and/or subject to a lot of potential exemptions. And then there is the added complication of working in a non-garnishment state for a big employer who has a presence in a garnishment state. And I'm just scratching the surface with what I'm saying here.

What you've written is a good, brief synopsis of what can happen in a plain-vanilla situation in a state that's pretty much average with respect to its debtor/creditor laws. That's probably a handful of states at the most.

Books like mine (Debt Hope: Down and Dirty Survival Strategies) straighten out as much of that as possible. A whole lot can be handled or even entirely avoided if the debtor makes the right moves at the right times.
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lisakaz2
Da ministero dell'interno di Snark.
09:15 PM on 01/05/2010
I was contacted by a collections agency once and I was SMOKIN' HOT MAD. It was a bogus thing. I had proof of a billpay of the rent and faxed it to this guy. He was pretty annoyed with me, I guess imagining I was acting. He sure changed his tune when he got the fax.
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BaronWVS
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09:01 PM on 01/05/2010
Not to defend these types of Mafia Loan Shark Enforcer tactics, but is anyone really surprised by this? Welcome to Great Depression II. Settle in, it's going to be a bleak, bumpy ride.
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Gover
08:41 PM on 01/05/2010
To anyone with debt problems:

Don't be afraid of debt collectors. They are your friends. The entire debt industry is based around people being scared of debt collectors and avoiding them. This is wrong.

In their efforts to be scary, nearly every debt collector in America is lazy and breaks the law constantly. You can prove this in court and not only walk away with 0 debt, no hit on your credit score, and often you can COUNTER-SUE debt collectors for Federal Debt Collector's Practices Act and win back thousands in settlements from them.

There are websites where people that have repeatedly and successfully fought debt collectors and not only erased their debt but have won thousands of dollars suing debt collectors acting as their own attorney. Some people go so far as to purposely run up debt just for the opportunity to sue these guys and make huge piles of easy money from shady collectors that have no understanding of the laws which regulate their industry.

You may have debt but you still have a brain. Use it. Find sites that provide specifics and read up on it. Chances are almost 100% if you're being "hounded" by creditors they have already committed multiple violations of federal law entitling you to sue for significant sums of money.

These laws were passed to protect you but they can not succeed at doing it if you are ignorant to what they say.
10:15 PM on 01/05/2010
There is a major flaw in your argument. You have to have money to do anything about it. A lot of money.
01:33 PM on 01/06/2010
that is not true there are attorneys in all states that will file your lawsuit for a percentage of the judgment. i used John Cimino in colorado and he didnt charge me a dime. the fdcpa allows 10k in punitive damages for every violation.
08:31 PM on 01/05/2010
Here is some advice about any debt collector...don't ever speak to them on the phone. If they do manage to get you on the phone, tell them to hold on while you turn on your tape recorder to record the conversation. They'll hang up. If they do make phone contact with you, they have five days to send you written demand of the debt. Once they do, dispute it with them. Do so within 30 days of receiving their written claim. Send it certified mail with return receipt.

Never give out your banking info to a debt collector. If you do agree to payments, send them money orders or you run the risk of them cleaning out your bank account. Don't assume you owe the debt or the amount they claim. Make them validate the debt and make them prove they have the authority to even try to collect it from you.

If you are being contacted by the Original Creditor, they don't have to follow the same laws. Still, they can't call you several times a day. Most Attorney General's offices consider that harrassment even if it's the original creditor. Once it goes to a debt collection agency, the law is pretty clear on what they can and cannot do.

Get educated on the FDCPA. You have rights. Learn them. A good resource of info is Creditboards website. Check out the forums there, it is enlightening.