Hatch Threatens Partisan 'War' If Dems Attempt Reconciliation Strategy

First Posted: 03/31/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:20 PM ET

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If Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) is any indication, the GOP plans on greeting any attempt to move health care fixes into law through the budget reconciliation process with what amounts to protracted trench warfare.

Hatch promised "a new high in partisan tensions" if Democrats choose to go that route:

Hatch said Thursday that using reconciliation would be "one of the worst grabs for power in the history of the country" that would permanently impact relations between the two parties.


"It is going to be outright war and it should be, because it would be such an abuse of the reconciliation rules," Hatch said. "If they abuse those rules it is going to lead to even more heated animosities between not just the two parties, but even between individual senators."

It's not an empty threat. The advantage in using budget reconciliation to get health care fixes through the Senate is that it would allow Democrats to bypass a filibuster threat. Reconciliation votes would only require the support of 51 senators (or 50 plus Joe Biden). But the advantage could be countered if the GOP does what it's said it plans to do: load down the process with an interminable array of unrelated amendments, with the intention of turning the whole affair into a drawn-out, tendentious process that would force the Democrats to voice their opinion on a whole lot of issues.

Senator Judd Gregg (R-N.H.) -- you know, the guy who's super concerned about government waste and who was at one time, perplexingly, in line to be President Barack Obama's Commerce Secretary, for frack's sake -- has vowed to "make it an extraordinarily difficult exercise." By which he presumably means a new frontier in extraordinary difficulty, beyond where he has already taken things.

However, Plum Line blogger Greg Sargent points out today that Hatch and his colleagues have backed reconciliation in plenty of past instances:

* The College Cost Reduction Act of 2007, which passed through reconciliation;


* The Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005, which passed through reconciliation;

* The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005, which passed through reconciliation;

* The Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003, which passed through reconciliation;

* The Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001, which passed through reconcilation;

* The Marriage Tax Penalty Relief Reconciliation Act of 2000, which passed through reconciliation; and

* The Taxpayer Refund and Relief Act of 1999, which passed through reconciliation.

And, as blogger Matt Yglesias pointed out a while back:

Under Bush, congress even tried to open the Alaska National Wildlife Refuge to drilling via reconciliation--they failed because they couldn't get the fifty votes. There'd be nothing unusual about passing significant legislation through reconciliation. Nor would a reconciliation bill necessarily be an "inferior" one. It just might have to have a more limited subject matter.

But Hatch, in opposing the Democrats' potential reconciliation designs, is likely to find himself a powerful ally in the retrenched and absurd Beltway media, who have already laid the groundwork for treating reconciliation as some sort of alien way of passing legislation that doesn't really count.

Consider the case of David Broder -- serious people tend to listen to him for reasons that have never, ever been made entirely clear to me. Back in June, he said this:

The goal of the Obama White House is to come up with a health-care plan that can attract bipartisan support. The president has told visitors that he would rather have 70 votes in the Senate for a bill that gives him 85 percent of what he wants rather than a 100 percent satisfactory bill that passes 52 to 48.


There is good reason for that preference. When you are changing the way one-sixth of the American economy is organized and altering life for patients, doctors, hospitals and insurers, you need that kind of a strong launch if the result is to survive the inevitable vagaries of the shakedown period.

As I've said before, there may be junior high school civics classes out there where students are learning about the way the Founders established the "shakedown period" and it's "inevitable vagaries." In Fairfax County, Virginia, we learned that if 50 senators and the vice president agree on something, count it in. But that's way too simple for a political media that will probably cover Hatch's protracted partisan "war" as if they are rolling on Ecstacy.

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Demystifying The Media's Take On Budget Reconciliation

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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Kealadi
Seeker of Truth
06:06 PM on 02/09/2010
To Senator Hatch: So you don't want government getting too many fingers in the health care pie. Knowing your past record, I can understand where you're coming from. I don't think the government should regulate nutritional supplements, just like you, and I'm with you on that issue. But what if there was something in the bill that would support a person's right to buy any nutritional supplements they need all on their own without a doctor's prescription? Would you be more willing to support that? How about allowing doctors to actually have the option of treating people through complimentary/alternative medicine, rather than always through big wig pharmaceuticals, which often kill people or make them sicker? Would you support such an amendment that would let doctors use any means to actually HEAL people in a health reform bill? Would that help win your support? People with little extra money left in their pockets after living expenses can not afford health care. Many die! Some can't even afford healthy food, let alone expensive doctor visits, tests, and toxic drugs. Senator Hatch, I would urge you to speak up about these things I know you have cared in the past about. Congress needs dialog. But if that can't happen and the two parties can't hash things out without punching each other, the only ones suffering will be ordinary Americans, who vote.
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Kealadi
Seeker of Truth
05:45 PM on 02/09/2010
If Republicans can push us into war through reconciliation, then Democrats can push through a decent health care bill! It should be obvious to anyone who has been following this issue closely who really is to blame if a decent health care bill that actually helps millions doesn't get passed. Oh, of course President Obama and the Democrats will get most of the blame. But if people will take a good look, they will see that it is the insurance companies who are really behind the opposition. Of course! They stand to lose their easy money! They will have to give up their cheating ways and actually INSURE people! That's what insurance is FOR! Does a restaurant go into business serving people food, then refuse to serve the consumers when they place their orders? NO! Then why should health insurers do the same? When someone gets sick, insurance should pay, that's what they're business is supposed to be! These crooked insurers buy off congresspeople continually. Big Money is what is doing all the talking, as usual, in Washington, just as it always has. And if people don't realize this and continue to blame the wrong people it will continue to get that much worse for America. God help us!
11:39 AM on 02/03/2010
Orin Hatch ...Go Fu*k yourself and the same with your worthless Republicans. You never intended to show any partisanship or help anyone but yourselves. I honestly believe your party and members in it are an ineffective carload of crap! But that is just my humble opinion.
07:31 PM on 02/02/2010
This story is right, and Hatch proves my point, without a doubt we republicans have been kicking our responsibility don't the street. We need a new message and a realistic message that show respect for what the voters want. I want my party back, and I saw this article that speaks to that new message, all republicans are not like what the media makes us out to be, here is your proof:

http://bit.ly/republicanmanifesto

Check it out
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M Jordan
08:31 AM on 01/31/2010
We don't need Reconciliation, and you don't need a 60 vote majority, When the GOP GREED OVER PEOPLE party held congress they passed everything they wanted and Bush signed them into law. Put the public option in make the Bill worth something for the working class and pass it. This is why we Independents are having a hard time supporting Democrats, They all think about themselves being reelected. At Least the GOP look out for the Rich.
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ferob
02:05 AM on 01/31/2010
Does this mean they're not going to fund the wars AKA troops?
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ReedYoung
global mean land-ocean temperature 1880 to present
09:09 PM on 01/30/2010
BRING IT ON, Orrin.
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HUFFPOST PUNDIT
ReedYoung
global mean land-ocean temperature 1880 to present
12:47 AM on 01/31/2010
It would be "one of the BEST grabs for power in the history of the country" because it would be a grab for the power to do what The People want, over the objections of those who serve corporations, and illiterate bigots.
04:53 AM on 01/31/2010
It's not what The People want. There has been no mandate for Health Care Reform.
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wesinohio
Can't never did anything.
08:20 PM on 01/30/2010
The Democrats are the majority and they should wield their power to get their agenda passed, otherwise they'll lose that majority.
04:54 AM on 01/31/2010
Congress needs to do the will of The People, not the will of the Party.
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wesinohio
Can't never did anything.
09:33 AM on 01/31/2010
I agree. On the issue of health care reform, among other things it means Public Option or Single Payer. Regarding the party system, I would like to eliminate it, not through mandate but letting it whither away through through public campaign financing.
05:03 AM on 02/04/2010
The will of the people is expressed in elections, not in your fantasies.
06:17 PM on 01/30/2010
oh please. those republicans are doing everything they can to stop everything. I say do whatever it takes, and to hell with them.
04:59 AM on 01/31/2010
Yeah, to hell with democracy! Nice attitude, Bub. Let's ram through Obamacare, even if The People don't want it.

THERE IS NO MANDATE FROM THE PEOPLE.
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wesinohio
Can't never did anything.
09:37 AM on 01/31/2010
Most people's reality isn't JBoy's reality, and President Obama's name isn't part of the health care bill either. Most people do want the Public Option, in a form which is way left of where the bill stands now. There is, in fact, a mandate for liberal reform.
06:15 PM on 01/30/2010
It's time for Utah voters to realize that Mr. Hatch is ready to retire from public office. What has he done lately for the American public? He's a nice person - but he's part of the GRIDLOCK mentality.
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
helenwheels
SEDAGIVE?!?
01:45 PM on 01/30/2010
Typical rethug hypocr!sy. IOKIYAR.
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Horus45
Liberal Activist, anti-Fascist
01:30 PM on 01/30/2010
He's been waging a partisan war for the past year!
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swengnikaerb
'ello Duckies :)
02:06 PM on 01/30/2010
How, be specific.
12:57 PM on 01/30/2010
OMG legislation passed by a majority Its the end of civilization.
BTW what's a filibuster? anybody see one lately?
01:18 PM on 01/30/2010
The Senate lives in a virtual reality. A filibuster in the virtual Senate is what we call a THREAT of a filibuster in the real world.

I, too, want to see a REAL filibuster. I want it to go on so long that the American public rushes en masse to Washington to vomit all over our precious Senators. I want it to go on so long that filisbustering Senators drop dead at the podium and on national TV. Now THAT would be real politics instead of the phony game they play out, wasting each and every day of our lives.
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swengnikaerb
'ello Duckies :)
02:07 PM on 01/30/2010
LOL Survivor DC - Inside the Beltway
12:31 PM on 01/30/2010
Yeah! And if the taliban ever dares to enter Afghanistan, the United States of America will rise up and declare war on them!

Hatch is a very low-tech tool. He could use a CPU and some memory.

Gotta hand it to him, though. He's a true champion of dissembling cynicism.

Newsflash!! The Republican Party is already at war with every single thing the Democrats propose. There is nothing more they can do, given the fact that they have nothing to offer which hasn't already been proven to fail. Reaganomics (a.k.a. voodoo economics...because that's what it is) has set the national economy back 75 years, and it only took them 30 years to accomplish that. But they're still demanding that we buy it.

As for his new found hatred of reconciliation, it was the Bush led slim-majority Republican Congress which pushed MOST of their agenda through using reconciliation, whether or not the specific bills in question had any effect on the budget.
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
12:21 PM on 01/30/2010
Thanks to all for the logic in answer to the threat of Hatch's...
Hatch a modern day "Paper Tiger"...