China: Obama-Dalai Lama Meeting Would Harm Bilateral Relations

GILLIAN WONG   02/ 2/10 08:52 AM ET   AP

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BEIJING — Any meeting between President Barack Obama and the Dalai Lama would harm bilateral relations, China warned Tuesday while repeating Beijing's refusal to discuss Tibet's status with the spiritual leader's envoys.

An Obama meeting with the Tibetan spiritual leader would "seriously undermine the political foundation of Sino-U.S. relations," said Zhu Weiqun, the executive deputy head of the Communist Party's United Front Work Department who was in charge recent talks with the Dalai Lama's representatives.

Zhu spoke at a news conference where he said Chinese officials told the Dalai Lama's envoys in their weekend talks that Beijing would not make any compromises on its sovereignty over the Himalayan region and that both sides' views remained "sharply divided."

China maintains that Tibet has been part of its territory for centuries, but many Tibetans say the region was functionally independent for much of its history and consider the Dalai Lama their rightful leader.

The Dalai Lama's representatives said China's warnings came across as high-handed, but they said they would keep pursuing dialogue with Beijing despite their differences.

"The reaction of the Chinese reflects a certain unfortunate arrogance. It's unbecoming of a nation with such a long history," Lodi Gyari, one of the Dalai Lama's emissaries, told reporters in Dharmsala. "We hope China behaves in a more mature way as they have to play an important role in the international arena."

The talks showed no signs of producing any breakthroughs as both sides stuck to the positions they had assumed when they last met in November 2008 and the discussions had ended in deadlock. Beijing has refused to discuss the status of Tibet with the emissaries, saying the Chinese would only address the Dalai Lama's return to China.

The Dalai Lama, who fled Tibet in 1959 after a failed uprising against China, leads a government-in-exile in India. Beijing has accused him of trying to split the country – a charge he denies – and often lodges protests against his travel abroad and meetings with heads of state.

The warning to Obama comes after signals from U.S. officials in recent weeks that Obama might soon meet the exiled Tibetan leader – something Chinese officials are keen to avoid before President Hu Jintao travels to Washington, possibly in April.

No date for Obama's meeting with the Dalai Lama has been announced, but White House spokesman Mike Hammer said last month that "the President has made clear to the Chinese government that we intend to meet with the Dalai Lama, it has been his every intention." The White House did not immediately return a call seeking comment Monday night.

Zhu did not give any details on what China would do if Obama meets the Dalai Lama, saying only: "We will take corresponding measures to make the relevant countries realize their mistakes."

At the last round of talks in 2008, China rejected a proposal presented by the Dalai Lama's envoys to help Tibetans achieve more autonomy under the Chinese constitution – a key demand of the minority community.

Zhu said the Chinese government was the only legitimate representative of the Tibetan people, not the Dalai Lama or his envoys. The Tibetan government-in-exile disagreed, saying the exiled spiritual leader is viewed by Tibetans as their true representative.

The Dalai Lama "speaks on behalf of the Tibetan people, with whom he has a deep and historical relationship and one based on full trust," Gyari said in an earlier statement. "It is indeed only by means of dialogue with His Holiness the Dalai Lama that the Tibetan issue can be resolved. The recognition of this reality is important."

China's hard-line position and continued refusal to engage the Dalai Lama's envoys on the issue of Tibet has been an issue of concern to many governments and will likely be viewed as an insufficient response to the issue, a Tibet expert said.

"There's a general view that the Tibetans are a distinct nationality and indigenous one and that the Chinese government should have some obligation to work with their leaders to sort out how they are to be treated. Yet the Chinese government has consistently refused to do so," said Michael Davis, a law professor at Chinese University of Hong Kong who writes about Tibet. "They are talking past each other, and the big question is whether anyone out there will be satisfied."

Beijing demonizes the Dalai Lama and says he seeks to destroy China's sovereignty by pushing independence for Tibet. The Dalai Lama has maintained for decades he wants some form of autonomy, not independence, that would allow Tibetans to freely practice their culture, language and religion under China's rule.

Tibetan areas have been tense in recent years, with the minority community complaining about restrictions on Buddhism, government propaganda campaigns against their revered Dalai Lama, and an influx of Chinese migrants that leave Tibetans feeling marginalized. Those feelings boiled over in deadly anti-Chinese riots in 2008 that shocked Beijing's leaders.

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Associated Press writer Ashwini Bhatia contributed to this report from Dharmsala, India.

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02:28 AM on 02/19/2010
This is a pissing match, and the heat just got turned up a notch or two. So in the last 2 months China dumped $34 Billion in treasuries. That clearly did not do the trick. What's the next stop? $300 Billion? Dollar for dollar protectionism? Who cries UNCLE first? Both sides will probably see more unemployment, but the Chinese are a lot more used to hardship. So hold on to your belts - they'll need tightening a few notches.
12:27 AM on 02/05/2010
The Chinese always make these kinds of noises when the Dalai Lama comes to visit. The best thing George W. Bush ever did was to award him the Congressional Gold Medal in spite of their howls of protest. A precedent for meeting with the Dalai Lama by distinguished members of our government has been firmly established. The Chinese government can go to hell.
04:26 AM on 02/12/2010
I guess you will not make any noise if one of the US state try to get independent using the reason they were independent many many many years ago.
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03:28 PM on 02/04/2010
...Is the Chinese gov't controlling these posts? Mine keep getting deleted. Anyway, this one's for you, Mike72: The Chinese government is not as calculating as you think. There's nothing calculating about exploiting your own people. There's nothing calculating about making hyperbolic threats at foreign governments that will never be carried out. It's the exact opposite of calculating, but the irony is--just like a not-too-smart person trying to use "big" words and using them incorrectly--that the Chinese government is so convinced it has the world fooled.
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10:18 AM on 02/03/2010
Just on the basis of how China relates to the Dalai Lama it is obvious that they are delusional and duplicitous and certainly willing to say and do anything. The can not be trusted; they don't even care that their constant and obvious lies are recognized as such. It's a grim future for the world with China gaining strength.
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02:03 AM on 02/03/2010
He is the President of the United States - he will meet with who he wants to - deal!
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11:40 PM on 02/02/2010
Every time that one government does something that another doesn't like, the other one snaps. I can see this turning into a Jerry Springer skit.
11:33 PM on 02/02/2010
China, let those people free. We shouldn't pay back the money they loaned us, until they start acting like an upright country. They owe us for their success and have caused our economy hurt by paying for out politicians campaigns, gaining favors, and from blackmail. What do you think Nixon's visit was really about? JFK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy
http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/FbiMemoPhotoLinkBushJfk.htm

Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 PM on 2/02/2010

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Your ridiculous conspiracy theories aside, what moral high ground do you have to tell people to act like an "upright country".

We've supported genocide in Guatemala, wiped out democratically elected governments in Chile and Iran, invaded Iraq and Afghanistan causing widespread human rights catastrophes, and you are telling CHINA to change its behavior?

This double standard would be suprising if it wasn't so prominent.

Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 2/02/2010

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Nothing ridiculous about it. All documented.

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." MLK

We need justice reform here.

Clinton should have asked them to clean up the human rights abuses, before giving them access to our markets.
10:36 PM on 02/02/2010
The Chinese are as politically calculating as it gets. It is all an act. When any foreign government head meet with Dalai Lama, the government head won brownie points from his "politically brave" move on "human concience" and went against the wrath of China.

From Chinese perspective, Dalai Lama is just a no-good-use political dog that has no real national security consequence. So in a sense, Dalai Lama is the political "buffer zone." The real interests of China never got touched.

At the same time, Dalai Lama got to be in the political lime light for one more second. The meeting will reconfirm his standing among that 300,000 followers camping in India.

All three sides get their objectives. And you guys are just du**mb a99 jumping up and down in HuffPost. :)
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11:33 AM on 02/04/2010
Mike72, The Chinese gov't is not as calculating as you think. There's nothing calculating about exploiting your own people. There's nothing calculating about making hyperbolic threats at foreign governments that will never be carried out. It's the exact opposite of calculating, but the irony is--just like a not-too-smart person trying to use "big" words and using them incorrectly--that the Chinese government is so convinced it has the world fooled.
10:09 PM on 02/02/2010
What is the big deal of Obama seeing Dalai Lama?

I think China should play a practical joke on Obama: on the second when Obama shake hand with Dalai Lama, all communications between China and USA at all levels just suddenly go dead silence for 24 hours. No response. No nothing.

And 24 hours later, all communications resume and China claimes some hardware malfunction.

That will be fun. After all, Obama meeting Dalai Lama is actually placing a practical political joke on China, anyway.

2009 when Obama needs China, Dalai Lama got dumped.

2010 when Obmam needs a good election stance, he suddenly found Dalai Lama.

If that is not a joke, I don't know what is.
07:01 PM on 02/02/2010
Obama-Lama-Rama!
06:59 PM on 02/02/2010
I have read the recent comments on the Dalai Lama news. Very interesting. I can also see some interesting China bloggers joining the fray. It may be propagandas from both sides but some facts have been revealed. A person with a neutral mind reading these comments will have a wider picture of the Dalai Lama.
One thing for sure Obama's meeting with the Dalai Lama is certaining not for spiritual enlightenment.
10:12 PM on 02/02/2010
Obama needs spiritual guidance from Dalai Lama for all the troubles he is facing in Wall St and Health Care debacle. :)
12:26 AM on 02/03/2010
I think it is just a confirmation to the Tibetan exiles that US will continue to support them.
If US recognizes the Dalai Lama then the exiles will have to back him.
Bush also had this meeting and certainly nothing spiritual (remember Bush gets his advice from "higher authority"} or beneficial came out of it.
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05:14 PM on 02/02/2010
It's sad that China's only reaction to dealing with a man who sounds completely reasonable in his goals is to demonize him and go on about how he'd destroy Chinese sovereignty. This coming from the nation that invaded Tibet in the 50s and took THEIR sovereignty. Seems like the only sovereignty that matters to the Chinese is their own. Any neighboring countries that they want to claim as a new province are fair game, though, their sovereignty be damned.
10:18 PM on 02/02/2010
Some background info:

Tibet declared independence with British support in 1934 when Nationalist Chinese government lost control of most of it territories. Around the same time, Outer Mongolia declared independence with Soviet Unions support. The Tibetan independence declaration was rejected by the Nationalist government. The Outer Mongolia independence declaration was accpeted by Chinese government and the treaty was signed. Since then, Outer Mongolia stands as independence state in the world.

After the Commie beat up the Nationalists, they proceeded to "invade" all China to assume control. Tibet was part of the process. If Tibet was invaded by the Commies, so are the rest of China.

I will say tough luck for the Tibetans. That is once in a millenium chance to declare independence. But the Nationalist Chinese government did not agree to it. The Commie just literally assumed everything left by the Nationalists, including Tibet.
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04:45 PM on 02/02/2010
The Chinese have been working a long time to get us under their thumb, and I guess they think they've got us there now.

Wrong.
04:25 AM on 02/12/2010
Why would you never take a different angle viewing this stuff
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MikeBakunin
03:56 PM on 02/02/2010
The Chinese should retaliate by banning exports to the U.S.

Please.
03:25 PM on 02/02/2010
Free Tibet!!!
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DeathStare
06:06 PM on 02/04/2010
Free Willy!!!