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Guantanamo Death Lawsuit Thrown Out Of Court

PETE YOST   02/17/10 03:03 AM ET   AP

Guantanamo Death Lawsuit
Prisoners pray in Guantanamo. A lawsuit over the death of two former inmates has been thrown out of court.

WASHINGTON — A judge has dealt a setback to the families of two Guantanamo Bay detainees in a lawsuit that alleges former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. military officers and medical personnel were responsible for the detainees' deaths.

The case alleging unlawful treatment of former prisoners Yasser Al-Zahrani and Salah Ali Abdullah Ahmed Al-Salami is barred by the Military Commissions Act of 2006, U.S. District Judge Ellen Huvelle ruled Tuesday.

Al-Zahrani and Al-Salami were among three men who allegedly committed suicide on the night of June 9, 2006. They were found hanging in their cells at the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

A recent article in Harper's magazine by an attorney who long has worked on detainee issues suggests the three prisoners were transported by guards from their cells hours before their deaths to a secret facility on the island.

The families of the dead men have been seeking damages under the Alien Tort Claims Act, alleging arbitrary detention, torture, cruel and inhuman treatment, violations of the Geneva Conventions, and cruel and unusual punishment.

The judge said the two detainees were properly determined by the U.S. military to be enemy combatants.

Citing an appeals court decision, Huvelle said judicial involvement in the "delicate area" of how detainees are treated could undermine military and diplomatic efforts by the U.S. government on the terrorism front.

Al-Zahrani, 22 years old when he died, was captured in Afghanistan in late 2001 and he was 17 years old when he was transferred to Guantanamo in 2002, according to the suit by the men's families.

Al-Salami was arrested by local forces in Pakistan in March 2002.

Al-Zahrani was from Saudi Arabia. Al-Salami was from Yemen.

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Logicnotfaith
Ret. Lt Col. USAF, now college prof in Austin TX
12:02 PM on 02/17/2010
For record, the judge that dismissed the murder charges against the Blackwater contractors and the this judge are BOTH CLINTON APPOINTEES. Kind puts a huge hole in the lib "repug" conspiracy doesn't it
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07:54 AM on 02/18/2010
The ruling concerns a Bush-written law.
12:01 PM on 02/17/2010
So we want to present ourselves to the world as a changed and reformed nation. Well, let’s hold up on that presentation. The only things that have changed are words and labels. The Lie and Deny mentality is making a come back which I thought left in 2009. With that change and new reform, the prefix of “In” continues to be added to the word Justice. I do hope that justice can be found at the World Court, since we seem to be falling deeper and deeper into a moral abyss.

(Words of Martin Luther King, Jr.)

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
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Coinyer101
King of Doobiestan
11:51 AM on 02/17/2010
Even our judges are corrupt torture-mongers.......,We'll never regain our moral authority that Bush squandered, and the current admin. thinks they can get back with apologies and 'looking forward'......,

Maybe they'll all wind up in the same 'heII' , when it's all over.....,
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toadfoot
I don't have to show you any stinkin' bio!
11:34 AM on 02/17/2010
Attorney General Holder is obligated under the Geneva Conventions and the UN Convention on Torture to prosecute Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et. al.

"Nations who are party to these treaties must enact and enforce legislation penalizing any of these crimes.[9] Nations are also obligated to search for persons alleged to commit these crimes, or ordered them to be committed, and to bring them to trial regardless of their nationality and regardless of the place where the crimes took place. The principle of universal jurisdiction also applies to the enforcement of grave breaches. Toward this end, the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda and the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia were established by the United Nations to prosecute alleged violations."

If Holder does not prosecute then he's also guilty under applicable law and he is in turn liable to prosecution. The neo-cons have pushed America to the brink of fascism with their "ends justifies the means" attitude towards the rest of the world.
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patches12
11:03 AM on 02/17/2010
You can't win a case without EVIDENCE!
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11:01 AM on 02/17/2010
It is impossible to try a war crimes case against US war criminals in US courts and get a fair and impartial hearing. These cases need to be tried in international court.
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calhar
10:29 AM on 02/17/2010
The judge was absolutely right to throw this case out.These people were probably unstable to begin with.Guantanamo shoul remain open.I dont think the American people want these radicals in the United States.This so called fiasco was completely overblown for politicle reasons.
12:14 PM on 02/17/2010
You don’t really have a clue. The truth about this government hypocrisy hurts doesn’t it? Have you considered yourself as unstable, since you are making preemptive assumptions about their stability? Are you assuming that unstable people need to die?
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09:46 AM on 02/17/2010
“This is amazing.

One Year, Counting: When Will Guantanamo Close?

http://fora.tv/2010/01/22/One_Year_Counting_When_Will_Guantanamo_Close

Participants included:
Moderator: Jeffrey Toobin, The New Yorker
Stephen Abraham, Lieutenant Colonel (Ret.), US Army Intelligence Corps (Reserves)
Honorable John Coughenour, Federal District Court, Seattle, WA, who presided over the 2005 trial of Ahmed Ressam, known as the Millennium Bomber
Talat Hamdani, September Eleventh Families for Peaceful Tomorrows
Shane Kadidal, Senior Managing Attorney, Guantánamo Global Justice Initiative, Center for Constitutional Rights
Celeste Koeleveld, Chief of the Criminal Division, Chief Appellate Attorney, and Assistant United States Attorney, U.S. Attorney's Office, Southern District of New York (1991-2008)”
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David Campbell
09:25 AM on 02/17/2010
I've read the Harper's story and it is devastating, a cover-up by our military and government. It needs to be thoroughly investigated and those who were responsible brought to justice, no matter how high up in the government we must go.
(not a fan of me)
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chaimschwartz
09:22 AM on 02/17/2010
Folks..this is what you get when you elect Republicans to the White House.....right wing activist judges who shill for war criminals like I believe Rumsfield is!
09:15 AM on 02/17/2010
A string of conspiratorial decisions by our judicial system.

CIA, drug launderer, Allen Stanford's people let go for destroying evidence.

2 horrible decisions for CIA connected mercenary group Blackwater, where in each case the person bringing the charges or who has blown the whistle has been made to suffer or be charged with the crimes while the others go free.

The whistle blower of UBS tax cheats gets charged, the people committing the crimes go free.

Yoo and the other lawyers justifying torture are allowed to go free.

And what about the prosecutions of the Bush Administration?

Paul vs. Clinton.

How do we fix our judicial system to keep people from being above the law?
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chaimschwartz
09:24 AM on 02/17/2010
Don't elect Rethugs to the White House!
09:33 AM on 02/17/2010
We have to stop the corporatists in the primaries as well. I'm sick of wolves in sheep's clothing.
09:12 AM on 02/17/2010
I can't help but to think that, if 9/11 was staged, as it appears to have been for the simple reason that none of the millions of people on the ground in Washington, D.C. and Northern Virginia saw, photographed, or filmed (as in NYC) a jumbo jet falling from the sky, the cruel death of this 17 year old boy alone is enough to bring down the wrath of God on this country.
09:08 AM on 02/17/2010
Let's protest.
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chaimschwartz
09:25 AM on 02/17/2010
I've got to go to work..you protest...take the birthers and tea party loons with you..they need a break from CLUSTERFOX!
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Erzsebet Gilbert
author, expat, traveler
09:06 AM on 02/17/2010
And, absurdly, we behave this way at Guantanamo in the name of protecting our "free society" - and if, in the meantime, human rights and human lives (innocent OR guilty) fall by the wayside, that's just, um, collateral damage, because hey, don't you feel safer now that somebody's been tortured?
08:38 AM on 02/17/2010
Wake up, folks. We cannot say that all of this is in the past, nor can we blame it all on Bush and company. The CURRENT administration is obstructing justice for war crimes--at EVERY possible turn. Here. And even in other nations--like the UK where the CURRENT administration threatened their government over things coming out about OUR war crimes in THEIR legal inquiries. The CURRENT administration is continuing to flout international law. This isn't about political football teams any more. Wake up.

To borrow from the old Rabbi: Who will be left to speak when they come for you?
09:54 AM on 02/17/2010
Agreed, the change from Bush to Obama on the torture issue is non-existent.

Obama has the full responsibility for crimes like this being persecuted. He has failed to persecute Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld etc, thus he is already dirty, and it's just going on and on.
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11:07 AM on 02/17/2010
Obama should not compromise on principles of human rights to avoid inflaming the GOP just in the mere hope of getting health care reform passed. Both are human rights issues, and as such, neither are likely to get much support from the GOP - they only care about rich people corporations and military, not human rights.