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Health Care Costs: A Look Into WellPoint's Profits

By TOM MURPHY   02/21/10 01:16 PM ET   AP

Wellpoint Profit

The Obama administration has seized on the issue to renew its push for an overhaul of the health care system.

At the heart of the debate is the question of what should be a fair profit for health insurers. WellPoint CEO Angela Braly will likely be grilled on the issue when she appears at a Congressional hearing Wednesday. Here are some questions that explore the issue.

Q: How does WellPoint make its money?

A: The Indianapolis insurer made about $4.7 billion in 2009, a total stoked by the $2.2 billion it received from the sale of a pharmacy benefits management subsidiary.

Outside that, WellPoint made most of its money through employer-sponsored group health insurance. It reported $2.4 billion in operating profit from that segment last year, which amounts to about 58 percent of its total earnings.

The insurer has said it gets only about 10 percent of its operating income from individual health insurance like the kind it sells in California.

Q: With that kind of money, why did WellPoint hike rates in California so high?

A: WellPoint says it lost millions last year on the individual health insurance policies it sells in California. The insurer underestimated the premiums it needed to collect in order to pay claims.

On top of that, WellPoint said hospital costs are rising an average of 10 percent a year and pharmaceutical costs are up 13 percent, and that must be factored into pricing.

At the same time, the tough economy is forcing more healthy people to drop their individual insurance. That leaves a higher concentration of sick people who generate medical claims in their risk pools. All this leads to premium increases that could average 25 percent.

Q: Can't WellPoint use money from a profitable business segment to cover shortfalls in its individual insurance division in California?

A: Each segment has to stand on its own in part because customers in New York wouldn't want their premium dollars being used to subsidize the California business. Likewise, a large company wants its premium dollars spent on coverage for its employees, not a subsidy for another line of insurance.

Q: WellPoint's a for-profit company. Do nonprofit competitors hike rates as high as WellPoint is planning?

A: Yes. They see the same customer turnover in individual insurance and they have the same capital requirements WellPoint has, although they don't need to generate shareholder returns.

Nonprofit insurers can raise rates in the range of 20 percent, said Gary Claxton, an expert on the private insurance market at the Kaiser Family Foundation. However, regulators in some states can require nonprofits to return some of their surplus to curb rate increases.

Q: What is a fair profit for health insurers?

A: This has become a stickier issue as medical costs rise. Insurers need to make a profit to generate a return on investment that makes their stocks attractive to shareholders, who supply the capital necessary to underwrite policies.

They have to use some profit to invest in technology to keep up with changing billing codes and pay claims quickly. Regulators also require them to set aside some of their earnings in case claims exceed the insurer's expectations.

Whether their profit margin should be 3 percent or 10 percent "is a much grayer area," Oppenheimer analyst Carl McDonald said.

By one measure, managed care companies make modest profits. Health insurers posted a 2.2 percent profit margin in 2008, placing them 35th of 53 industries on the Fortune 500 list. Drug and medical product companies both made the top 5.

"They're very much middle of the pack, but they've sort of been demonized in this health care reform debate," said Christopher Conover, a research scholar in Duke University's Center for Health Policy who has studied profit margins.

WellPoint's profits look outsized, in part, because it is a huge company. It had $65 billion in total revenue in 2009 and was the 32nd largest company on the 2009 Fortune 500 list, which is based on 2008 figures.

Some states have approval power over health insurance rates. But many, as is the case with California, do not. California and other states do, however, set a minimum percentage of premiums that must be spent on medical claims. California regulators require insurers pay at least 70 percent of the premiums they collect on individual insurance toward claims. WellPoint says it tops that percentage.

While insurers do aim to make money, analysts and actuaries say rising medical costs are the main driver of rate hikes. Many insurers are in competitive markets, and they have to be careful not to overprice, said health care consultant Dan Mendelson, president of Avalere Health.

"You wouldn't see a 35 percent increase in price because they're trying to make more profit," he said. "It just doesn't work that way."

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Rocnjohnny
TEXICAN
04:04 PM on 04/03/2010
Ok if Wellpoint makes a 2% profit then that sounds like they are just barley gettin by. If they do 2.2billion then 2%is not much for that amount of business. In order to keep that profit margin low and taxes too they pay out all but 2% in compensation to the top people and that keeps the margin really low. The top of the company gets 100s of millions to walk away with. What a way to get over while crying to the government that we only make 2% profit and that goes to the stockholders...Give me a break.
05:01 PM on 02/22/2010
They should have asked;

"what, as a health insurance company do you do, anyway?"

"uh............we rate people's risk and either cancel policies or raise rates, why?"

"so you actually do nothing, you don't add any value to peoples' health care "

"okay, we are leeches; a useless level of adminstration within a business system that does not require administration. We are the gatekeepers of health care, we are the 'rationers' ; the 'death panels'..oh, was the mic on?"
12:22 PM on 02/22/2010
Q: What does health insurance DO besides pay bills?

Q: What value does health insurance provide its customers?

Q: If you removed the 60% of delivery costs which insurers are responsible for, wouldn't healthcare become affordable?
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SpongeBrad
Republicans Crashing the economy since 1929
12:13 PM on 02/22/2010
1. Each segment has to stand on its own in part because customers in New York wouldn't want their premium dollars being used to subsidize the California business

True but why is all of California not considered one risk pool rather than big companies one rate, small companies another, and idividuals a 3rd, should all be in one risk pool.

2. If we went to a single payer system, or at the very least passed a public option, and merged all state programs into it we would be able to consolidate all back office work and save billions.
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blueken
Finger Picking blues man
11:54 AM on 02/22/2010
Bottom line, private insurance has failed. End of story. That only leaves the government. The only two shows in town, government, private enterprise. Private enterprise has failed. That leaves the government. Every other modern country in the world has worked it out. We can too. The many who are well, pay for the few that are sick. Illness is not an opportunity for profit. Health care is a right. If you want to free market, than the uninsured should be turned away at the hospital. That's free market. Sick people are left to die because they can not pay. That's the free market. You loose your job, you loose your insurance, you get sick, you die.
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GlenParked
11:33 AM on 02/22/2010
Once again, the AP skims a rock across the surface of the pond and tries to call it a deep-sea adventure.

"WellPoint said hospital costs are rising an average of 10 percent a year and pharmaceutical costs are up 13 percent." Where are the citations to prove this statement? Where is the follow-up question of how these increases came to be? And, more to the point, what did the author receive from WellPoint to pose as its cheerleader via this article?
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munki
Global to Local now Local to Global
11:37 AM on 02/22/2010
WellPoint and pharma should LOWER the costs and NOT up!!!

Perhaps, President should put FREEZE on costs!
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ldcbl
facts matter
11:18 AM on 02/22/2010
i wonder how much their "key" people took home, and how much in bonuses were paid out to the "key" employees. I bet the bonuses were high and unreasonable, and thus came off the bottom line of profits.
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Singing Sparrow
retired-government worker
10:14 AM on 02/22/2010
Oh please!! these statistics are so crooked. Employees pay for their medical insurance. Admittedly we don't pay the full bloated cost but we do pay hundreds of dollars every month for this "insurance" and then there are co-payments whenever we see the doctor or get medicine. When will you and your team admit that what is worrying you is that what the health insurers want is the kind of returns that Wall Street bankers expect.
Health coverage as capitalist profit is repugnant and that is what we have in this society. Gross.
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Genep34
stop the nightmare, end the GOP
10:02 AM on 02/22/2010
for profit health care is a contradiction in terms.
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pjwrites
09:33 AM on 02/22/2010
"Each segment has to stand on its own in part because customers in New York wouldn't want their premium dollars being used to subsidize the California business. Likewise, a large company wants its premium dollars spent on coverage for its employees, not a subsidy for another line of insurance."

That's the b.s. line right there, folks. They are able to rape and pillage the public not only with this kind of horse manure, but with full complicity from the government. Let's see Obama set this right, because if he doesn't, then we really don't get any meaningful "reform", do we?
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TXfemmom
Grandma with eye on the future
09:35 AM on 02/22/2010
Insurance is supposed to spread the risk, folks. That is the idea behind insurance.
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PragmaticStatistic
09:23 AM on 02/22/2010
We all need to realize that there is a growing problem coming regarding health care:

1) Like Social Security medical health care insurers face a staggering liability with the rising cost of aging Baby Boomer's health care as long as they continue hold medical insurance policies.

2) The medical insurer customer base will be shrinking in the coming years due to:

a) The fact that birth rates have declined with the smaller family sizes since the 1960s, resulting in a potentially smaller workforce once as much as 40% of the workforce retire and die off by 2040.

b) The rising cost of health care insurance is becoming unaffordable by either employers or individual policyholders who pay for their own coverage. 75% of those who need to pay for their own individual coverage go without, and a the number of companies that no longer offer complete employer-paid coverage or offer employer-paid coverage at all is growing fast.

3) Abuse. Policyholders view employer-paid, health care as free, while medical service providers find it easy to over bill the system or bill for services not rendered. See the following article: http://www.your-story.org/connecticut-bbb-cautions-medical-insurance-fraud-may-jeopardize-patients-health-11793/

Therefore, the medical insurance industry has had to raise rates as dramatically as much as 42% to 54% in a single year and would like nothing better than to obtain a government subsidized and mandated health care program to ensure their profitability.
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Corners
08:54 AM on 02/22/2010
For profit health care has conflicting goals and should not exist because of this conflict. Profit or patient well being. As we all know corporations are mandated above all to make money and time and time again profit comes before taxpayers well being. Just look at congress.
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shryock
It never is what it is anymore
08:26 AM on 02/22/2010
i gotta tell you, this was the single most unhelpful explanation of insurance industry profits ever.
i still do not understand ....
i think you said, well point had 65billion in income in 2009 (but then in another sentence you said well point 'made' 4.7billion), of which a little over half is what is called operating income, and of operating income, about 2billion was straight profit.
so why the difference between what they made, 4.7billion and their income, 65billion?
did they not 'make' the other 60billion if they only made 4.7billion? where did the 60billion come from if they did not 'make' it?
well, what is the other income if not operating income?
and how much of it is profit?

as long as the numbers can be obscured so easily, how do we ever know what the insurance companies are 'making' by overcharging and underpaying? the insurance industry as a whole claims it is barely getting by and must raise rates because health care is so costly, but i sure cannot find any justification of that belief in the above article.
02:44 AM on 02/22/2010
Even the Chinese are getting Universal Health Coverage
http://www.forbes.com/2009/01/22/china-health-care-markets-econ-cx_twdd_0122markets04.html
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
01:49 AM on 02/22/2010
Wellpoint/Blue Cross helped renew the push for REAL HEALTH CARE REFORM!

Large Corporations self-Insure to avoid the Massive take Insures add to the cost of coverage.

So why NOT AMERICA SELF-INSURING 306,000,000 people using Medicare?

Simply amend the Medicare Law to include everyone and remove the FICA limit on income withholding over $106,800 to pay for the program.

If that is NOT enough then perhaps raise the rate from 6.2% to 6.9%.
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
01:51 AM on 02/22/2010
The issue of FAIR PROFIT is simple 0% PROFIT!

Self-Insure with Medicare and take the $106,800 lid off the withholding of FICA!
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
01:58 AM on 02/22/2010
The Indianapolis insurer made about $4.7 billion in 2009. It reported $2.4 billion in operating profit from Health Care fees.

Tough economy is makes it impossible to afford the OUTRAGEOUS FEES for younger people, leaving a higher concentration of sick people!

LOL! "You wouldn't see a 39% increase in price because they're trying to make more profit. It just doesn't work that way." RIGHT!
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
01:59 AM on 02/22/2010
Don't forget that is after all the MASSIVE INCOMES AND BONUSES HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO EMPLOYEES as a COST!