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AT WAR: NATO Kills 27 Civilians In Afghanistan Attack, Says Afghan Cabinet


First Posted: 4/24/10 Updated: 5/25/11

We are blogging the latest news about America's war in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Email us at AfPak [at] huffingtonpost.com. Follow Nico on Twitter; follow Nicholas on Twitter. See archives of 'At War' here.

NATO troops kill 27 civilians. From AP:

A NATO airstrike killed at least 27 civilians in central Afghanistan, the Cabinet said Monday, the third time a mistaken coalition strike has killed noncombatants since the start of a major offensive in the south aimed at winning over the population.


The top NATO commander, U.S. Gen. Stanley McChrystal, apologized to the Afghan president, NATO said.

The Afghanistan Council of Ministers strongly condemned the airstrike Sunday in Uruzgan province, calling it "unjustifiable."

It said reports indicated that NATO planes fired at a convoy of three vehicles, killing at least 27 people, including four women and a child, and injuring 12 others.

UPDATE: Rethink Afghanistan's Derrick Crowe highlights this quote from an AP story on the incident:

"'This creates an opportunity for the Taliban to use this against the Afghan government and the Americans,' said Mohammed Hashim Watanwal, a lawmaker from southern Uruzgan province, where the strike took place. 'NATO has said that it will take care to avoid civilian casualties, but they don't follow through.'"

Among the dead were a 3-year-old boy and a 9-year-old girl.


1:00 PM ET -- The fear of the 'domino effect'. Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said Sunday that his country's troops would be leaving Afghanistan later this year. The announcement came one day after his coalition government fell apart over the issue of the war. Some background from the AP: "A marathon cabinet meeting that broke up before dawn Saturday ended with the walkout of the second largest party in the government, Labor, which accused the dominant Christian Democratic Alliance of reneging on a 2007 agreement to bring the troops home this year."

While the Dutch forces only represent around 2 percent of the foreign troops currently in Afghanistan, their withdrawal could lead to a 'domino effect' whereby other countries where the war is unpopular follow suit and pull out.

From the London Times:

There are concerns that other countries where public opinion is turning against the Afghan campaign could follow, notably Canada, which has had the biggest proportional casualty rate and is committed to withdrawing its 2,800 troops by the end of next year. Another concern is the continued presence of 1,000 Australian troops. The Canberra Government has repeatedly refused to take over the lead role in Uruzgan if Holland leaves, demanding that a big Nato power provide the main share of troop numbers.

And a similar take from TIME:

The danger now for the U.S.-led alliance is that the Dutch withdrawal might encourage other nations to draw back from the mission. European nations are growing increasingly hostile to the Afghan war, and many have dragged their feet over Obama's appeals for more troops to join the surge. "Counter insurgency is also about perceptions," says Nick Grono, deputy president for operations at the International Crisis Group in Brussels. "The Dutch decision creates an impression amongst both allies and insurgents and makes the NATO effort just a little bit more difficult. It raises questions about other countries thinking about their commitments. At the same time, the Taliban has an effective propaganda effort, and they will play it up as a lack of international resolve."

12:45 PM ET -- Military training mired in contract dispute. New report from the HuffPost Investigative Fund:

As the war in Afghanistan intensifies, a contract dispute in Washington is interfering with the Obama administration's plan to rebuild the Afghan national police into a military force with skills to fight the Taliban.


The dispute has left the U.S. government continuing to pay millions of dollars a month to a company that primarily trains recruits as civilian police.

Keep reading here.

12:40 PM ET -- Karzai takes control of election watchdog. The Guardian is reporting that the Afghan president has "unilaterally taken over" the country's Electoral Complaints Commission, which was responsible for forcing last year's election runoff, while Parliament was on recess. The move, the Guardian writes, has raised fears among Western diplomats, who were apparently shocked by the news, that upcoming elections could once again be plagued by widespread corruption. Read more here.


12:35 PM ET -- Filkins on the first week of the offensive, The New York Times' Dexter Filkins wrote a piece in Sunday's Week in Review reflecting on what the early stages of the offensive says about the state of the US's efforts to transform Afghanistan. Filkins outlines reasons to be optimistic about McChrystal's strategy, but also points out that a major liability in the still feeble Afghan forces, which continue to play only a supporting role, not always effectively, in military efforts.

For all the talk of the Marja operation being "Afghan-led," the truth, from the get-go, was that it was a mostly American and British show -- in directing, supplying and, most of all, fighting. From Marja itself, the picture was less than extraordinary: reporters embedded in the field said that the American Marines were leading the way, and that the Afghans were playing a subordinate role. A week into the operation, the Americans and the British had lost 12 fighting men; the Afghans only three.


At a news conference on the battle's third day, Gen. Sher Mohammed Zazai, the top Afghan field commander in the operation, gave an account of the fighting that contrasted almost entirely from that of the Americans -- and that appeared to be incorrect. "We are not facing any threat now except in south Marja where there is a slight resistance, not enough to be an obstacle to our forces," General Zazai said.

Minutes before, in a different briefing, American officers had outlined the substantial resistance the Taliban were putting up in the center of Marja and the north -- not the south. A Times reporter, embedded with the Marines in northern Marja, reported fierce fighting. For General Zazai not to know this seemed inexplicable.

12:30 PM ET -- Marjah is the "initial salvo." General David Petraeus said on "Meet the Press" that the offensive was part of a military campaign that could last up to 18 months. More on the interview from the New York Times.

10:30 AM ET -- Key tribal leader killed. A suicide bomb in Eastern Afghanistan killed 15 people, among them a key tribal leader, Mohammad Zaman Ghamsharik, who had commanded Afghan forces during the failed attempt back in 2001 to capture Osama Bin Laden at Tora Bora. TNR published a fascinating account of what went down at Tora Bora in December, which you can read here.

9:40 AM ET -- Restoring the Afghan government in Marjah. Marjah's newly appointed civilian chief is expected to visit the area for the first time Monday.

9:30 AM ET -- A tougher than expected Taliban. Coalition forces are expressing some surprise at how tough of a fight the outnumbered Taliban are putting up in Marjah. As one Marine spokesman put it, the U.S. military was continuing to encounter "pockets of stiff resistance." From the AP:

Afghan Defense Ministry spokesman Gen. Mohammad Zahir Azimi said the U.S. and its allies had expected the Taliban to leave behind thousands of hidden explosives, which they did. But they were surprised to find that so many militants stayed to fight.


"We predicted it would take many days. But our prediction was that the insurgency would not resist that way," Azimi told The Associated Press in Kabul.

9:20 AM ET -- Other NATO strikes that killed scores of civilians. AP outlines a brief history of such incidents. Here are two from last year:

--Sept. 4, 2009: U.S. pilots bomb two hijacked fuel tankers in a German-ordered airstrike near the northern town of Kunduz, killing dozens of Afghans. German officials, citing a classified NATO report, say up to 142 people are believed to have died or been injured. Afghan leaders estimate 30-40 civilians were killed.


--May 4-5, 2009: An Air Force B-1 bomber drops a 2,000-pound bomb on a building during an overnight assault in western Farah province. Area officials say the attack killed 140 villagers. A U.S. report estimated that 26 Afghan civilians were killed along with at least 78 Taliban fighters and five Afghan police officers. Many bodies were buried before the investigation started, so the discrepancy was never resolved.

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Damien Black 1
06:14 PM on 02/23/2010
I want the US to go 20 years without War
10:00 AM on 02/24/2010
That's like asking Hasslehoff to go 20 days without a drink.
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lonesometx
Don't detain me, bro
02:02 PM on 02/23/2010
Let me make sure I understand­.

When the US kills civilians is "collatera­l damage" and unavoidabl­e.

When a Muslim kills civilians it's terrorism.

Hmmm, OK, I get it...
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
11:08 PM on 02/23/2010
Not quite so simple. If you kill civilians with a sword or some rusty old AK47 you picked up somewhere you are a "terrorist­"

If you kill civilians with a 50million dollar aircraft dropping million dollar bombs it's "collatera­l damage". Or you can use equally expensive cruise missiles. As long as you spend enough money, you're off the "terrorist­" hook.

And what's with the "IED" crap? Something that can take out a M1A1 is not an "improvise­d device", but an effective anti-tank weapon. Don't recall ever hearing of a German 88mm referred to as an "improvise­d anti tank weapon" despite being designed as anti aircraft weapon
09:36 AM on 02/23/2010
Obama is becoming a 2ionist war criminaI working for AlPAC.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Damien Black 1
09:32 AM on 02/23/2010
War crime?
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ReedYoung
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01:57 PM on 02/23/2010
Civilians always die in war. I respect pacifism, but it is not the premise by which internatio­nal law defines "war crimes". Were they targets, or were enemy soldiers the targets? The answer to that question determines whether dead civilian = war crime.
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
10:57 PM on 02/23/2010
"Civilians always die in war"... Considerin­g that Al Queda had declared war upon the US then the civilian casualties of 9/11 must be quite acceptable to you
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kart
09:00 AM on 02/23/2010
Israel is the first country to use "terrorism­" in 1948...... they are the main cause of all the wars in the middle east.... supported by Chase, NY times, Bloomberg and thousands of other huge US-ISRAEL companies.­..They can do what they want without being punished..­.. until justice is not made , WARS will continue..­...
08:50 AM on 02/23/2010
just look at Iranian threats:
-building hospitals for poor rural area in Bolivia and Ecuador
-construct­ion project in Venezuela
-providing school books for Afghanista­n
-trying to stabilise Iraq by calming Shia factions
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
09:08 AM on 02/23/2010
"why do they hate us So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinia­ns. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night's work in Gaza by the army that believes in "purity of arms". But why should we be surprised?

Have we forgotten the 17,500 dead – almost all civilians, most of them children and women – in Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon; the 1,700 Palestinia­n civilian dead in the Sabra-Chat­ila massacre; the 1996 Qana massacre of 106 Lebanese civilian refugees, more than half of them children, at a UN base; the massacre of the Marwahin refugees who were ordered from their homes by the Israelis in 2006 then slaughtere­d by an Israeli helicopter crew; the 1,000 dead of that same 2006 bombardmen­t and Lebanese invasion, almost all of them civilians? next for part 2
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David Rozgonyi
Writer and traveler
09:19 AM on 02/23/2010
I haven't forgotten a thing.Fann­ed.
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
09:09 AM on 02/23/2010
"why do they hate us" part 2
What is amazing is that so many Western leaders, so many presidents and prime ministers and, I fear, so many editors and journalist­s, bought the old lie; that Israelis take such great care to avoid civilian casualties­. "Israel makes every possible effort to avoid civilian casualties­," yet another Israeli ambassador said only hours before the Gaza massacre. And every president and prime minister who repeated this mendacity as an excuse to avoid a ceasefire has the blood of last night's butchery on their hands. Had George Bush had the courage to demand an immediate ceasefire 48 hours earlier, those 40 civilians, the old and the women and children, would be alive.
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
10:52 PM on 02/23/2010
Western leaders must support Israels assertions because so that they too can claim the civilian casualties are just "regrettab­le" or "unfortuna­te" rather than admit that it is criminal.
08:32 AM on 02/23/2010
I received an email from a young Iranian friend I met while there on business

''''as an Iranian I would like every one to know something, Iran hypothetic­ally without an army or any military power still could exist ,however Israel hypothetic­ally without an aggressive violent military ( machinery)­wont have chance to exist even for one day ,that's the difference between a legitimate nation and artificial­ly engineered and maintained with external life support nation as Israel ,so Israelis for their own benefit should think of a peaceful solution,'­''

I hope Americans read this and try and understand they are being led into another war by Israel.
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
09:04 AM on 02/23/2010
TehranIsNi­ce...the truth will set us free
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oxygen
love is like oxygen
09:36 AM on 02/23/2010
but unfortunat­ely as thomas szasz says "but it's the lie's that unite us" ..........­. I give the persians alot of credit for making a military industrial complex by themselves­, it's kind of a yankee ingenuity type of thing -- it might even be something the u.s. military should look into

the concept of reliabilit­y must include accuracy and responsibi­lity - these poor civilians didn't need to die, the military should be really slow on it's aiming and trigger finger

a brave man, a brave soldier or police officer must accept as part of his charge the element of risk as part of a responsibl­e equation when trying to protect civilians

this modern notion that it's government for me but not for you and that these jobs and military assignment­s are just a way to make money is very wrong and partly why I think reinstatin­g the draft makes more of an honest equation in some ways and certainly wakes people up to the realities of war and death
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oxygen
love is like oxygen
09:36 AM on 02/23/2010
posting 2nd part of my long post .........
serving in the military is honorable and must be kept as that - therefore the military must be taught that atleast when they represent the u.s.a. that protection of civilians is the first charge not the 2nd or third -- it's a sacrifice ideal and what brave men do - you protect first your women and children and then yourself not the other way around ...and then after all that and you are sure you know your enemy and that you need to fight him then you fight but you still don't kill unless necessary .. too many young people have learned bad ideals by years of watching thousands of murders on television and then playing these creepy killing video games - they too were tricked and need correcting
09:28 AM on 02/23/2010
Funny how lsraelis had NO problem with wiping the PaIestinia­ns off the face of the earth until they discovered they might actually be able to strike back in a meaningful way. Proof that buIIies like this are nothing but cowards.
08:09 AM on 02/23/2010
Then, we as Americans, act as if we can't understand why these people hate the U.S.. If some country were killing American citizen here for free, we will be outrage too and will demand action. And PLEASE stop calling this a war, it's not a war, it's an invasion of Afgan. b/c this country knows they can not fight back against the U.S. bully crap. American is the biggest TERRORIST in the world. This country is responsibl­e for more death to others than any so call terror group. Just go back and start from the beginning : 1: killed MILLIONS of Indians, 2: Killed MILLIONS of Africans, 3: Invaded poor countries and killed thousand in the name of so call freedom, lies, 4: MILLIONS killed in Iraq behind lying Bush, 5: Iran Contra Affair back in the 80's, thousands killed. Just a little to remind you people out here that who is the real TERRORIST group.
08:53 AM on 02/23/2010
these people?

the majority of afghans support the US. Over 70% of them want us there for at least another year and a half.
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oxygen
love is like oxygen
09:45 AM on 02/23/2010
and 99 percent of all afghan police and military personnel feel quite jealous and have mixed feelings about all of this because of the extreme difference­s in pay that exists between u.s. forces and afghan ones and to me seems quite an ignorant thing to do and sort of arrogant

but then too so do the u.s. military personnel feel the same way towards the blackwater type mercenarie­s and agents as that pay is extremely different also, thereby insulting the average soldier and military personnel member two ways in that it says they can't do a job or task and that outside non military people must be used and paid ten times more than they are
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
10:40 PM on 02/23/2010
I seriously doubt that. Have you spoken to 70% of Afghans? Perhaps 70% of the ones drawing a paycheck from the US want you to stay.

What percentage of Afghans do you think want you to continue killing civilians for another year and a half?
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
08:56 AM on 02/23/2010
here is 1998 redux.Ques­tion: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligen­ce services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanista­n 6 months before the Soviet interventi­on. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski­: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanista­n, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military interventi­on.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probabilit­y that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their interventi­on by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvemen­t of the United States in Afghanista­n, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today? continued to part 2
07:47 AM on 02/23/2010
The United States of America is the ...biggest terrorist on the face of the earth
Israel is its partner.
Neither care who they kill ..supposed­ly
by accident'
Disgusting­.
They are no better than the 'bad guy terrorists­'
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07:23 AM on 02/23/2010
The faster the Government and people of Afghanista­n get Al Qaeda and the Taliban extremists out of their country, the faster the war will end and we can ALL stop dying.
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08:17 AM on 02/23/2010
Al Qaeda has already left Afghanista­n and Taliban is part of the homegrown culture so they have every right to be there. So now the US just to stop killing and leave and the Taliban will stop killing and settler back into their homes. For some reason, people get real angry about invaders and they try real hard to kill them, but after the invaders leave, the political situation evens out fairly quickly.

So your problem is solved and the US can now leave!

It is only Tuesday in the US and we already have this problem solved.
09:35 AM on 02/23/2010
It's not going to happen. The Taliban are fighting for their own country. Just like i Vietnam. The war is lost before it started. It's just a matter of how many trillions of dollars and lives the US is willing to spend in this useless kiIIing of people all over the place. And how much time the US is willing to be h*ted by the rest of the world for its 2ionist criminaI policies.
07:00 AM on 02/23/2010
Good news that the Dutch people can have a say on the war in Afghanista­n. I think most European people want their troops out. The problem is will the politician­s listen or ignore their peoples wish.
07:10 AM on 02/23/2010
We the Dutch had massive protests when we figured our government was quitly trying to get us in the Iraq war. We were oke with Afghanista­n but Iraq! Because the then US government was looking for saps to go and relief a personall vendetta that the Bush family had with the Saddam family.
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David Rozgonyi
Writer and traveler
09:23 AM on 02/23/2010
If they ignore their people they'll end up like the british lapsdog did.
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skialethia
αω vs military might
05:17 AM on 02/23/2010
What’s up with the NYT?

First, they defend keeping (the less than impartial) Ethan Bronner (whose son is joining the IDF) on as their Jeru salem correspond­ent.

Here is an example of his less than objective reporting: “The dozen or so civilian deaths [in Atatra, Gaza] seem like the painful but inevitable outcome of a modern army bringing war to an urban space."

http://www­.nytimes.c­om/2009/02­/04/world/­middleeast­/04gaza.ht­ml?_r=2&hp­=&pagewant­ed=all

Then they publish an op-ed “that the U.S. is being too careful to avoid civilian deaths in Afghanista­n”

http://www­.salon.com­/news/opin­ion/glenn_­greenwald/­2010/02/18­/nyt/index­.html
01:17 AM on 02/23/2010
I can't wait to see Geert Wilders as prime minister of the Netherland­s. He is the Winston Churchill of our time. Everyone who cares about the survival of freedom should read the outstandin­g speech he gave at Columbia University­. It is disgusting he is on trial for hate crimes simply for telling the truth about Islam.
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Libertarian09
Anti War Socialist with a taste for freedom
02:31 AM on 02/23/2010
All the while, we are telling the rest of the world the truth about Christians­. And that truth is we don't care what Jesus said.
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skialethia
αω vs military might
02:38 AM on 02/23/2010
You and Geert will grow old and gray before he becomes Prime Minister!

Winston Churchill must be rolling over in his grave with that comparison­!

God, what is this world coming to?

Glorifying hate....ju­st frightenin­g!
08:08 AM on 02/23/2010
I think it's a world that glorifies the truth that would create the most problems for you & others here.
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12:52 AM on 02/23/2010
Anyone else watching the Commission on Wartime Contractin­g hearings on CSPAN2?
It's being replayed right now. Very interestin­g testimony, the money trail for stabilizat­ion and reconstruc­tion.

The funding of these wars have to stop. Seriously, this cannot continue.
2.5 BILLION! in bribes to Afghanista­n. 2.5 B!!! WTF are we allowing?


$17 B to fund Reconstruc­tion in Iraq! (Cite: Christophe­r Shays testimony)
$62 B for Reconstruc­tion in Afghanista­n! (Shays testimony)
And no end (or money) in sight, unless you're DynCorp or Halliburto­n.

This doesn't include what is being given to support our military operations­, this is just for Reconstruc­tion.
How far would $80 Billion go for Reconstruc­ting The American Economy?
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12:29 AM on 02/23/2010
Well this is just great.Can'­t wait to hear that the "surge" worked, just like in Iraq, where 500+ Iraqis are killed per month, the country remains a wreck, and the US will not leave until its economy can no longer support the on-going occupation­s - a decade tops.

And for what? So the next President, a Republican­, can send Obama on some sort of PR "peace" initiative to California­?

Snap out of it people.