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Gibbs: The Public Plan Doesn't Have The Votes

First Posted: 04/25/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:35 PM ET

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The White House made it official on Tuesday: the president doesn't think the votes are there to get a public option passed through reconciliation and consequently won't make a push to include or pass the provision.

Speaking at the daily briefing, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs was asked again why the administration did not include the government-run insurance option in its final health care proposal in light of the fact that 23 Democratic senators signed a letter calling for its passage.

"We have seen obviously that though there are some that are supportive of this, there isn't enough political support in a majority to get this through," Gibbs responded. "The president... took the Senate bill as the base and looks forward to discussing consensus ideas on Thursday."

The remarks were the clearest indication to date that the White House's vote counters don't see a viable path to getting the public option into law, even if Senate Democrats use reconciliation -- which would have allowed for an up or down vote. The outstanding question for advocates of the proposal remains: How many lawmakers could have been persuaded to vote for the public plan had the White House actually pushed for its passage?

It's worth recalling, after all, that Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn.) says he was never approached by the President to discuss the public option. And while administration officials insisted, at the time, that the Senator knew where they stood -- implying that there was nothing they could do to move his vote -- Obama clearly does carry significant sway in the legislative process. On Monday, Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) said she decided to support a modest jobs bill only after she met with an administration official and received a phone call from Obama himself.

Meanwhile, the White House message was already being relayed by House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, who told reporters on Tuesday that President Obama seemed to believe the public plan had no chance in the Senate.

"I was for the public option. I believe the public option does, in fact, provide for -- and CBO scores it as -- saving money. And to that extent I think it's a good thing," said Hoyer. "But I think that it is obviously an item that the president has decided -- he was for the public option, as well -- is not something that perhaps the Senate can buy."

UPDATE: Progressive Change Campaign co-founder Adam Green, one of the main activists behind the public option push, responds harshly to Gibbs.

The White House obviously has a loser mentality -- but America rallies around winners. Polls show that in state after state, voters hate the Senate bill and overwhelmingly want a public option, even if passed with zero Republican votes. More than 50 Senate Democrats and 218 House Democrats were willing to vote for the public option before, and the only way to lose in reconciliation is if losers are leading the fight. That's why Democrats in Congress should ignore the White House and follow those like Chuck Schumer and Robert Menendez who know that the public option is a political and policy winner.
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The White House made it official on Tuesday: the president doesn't think the votes are there to get a public option passed through reconciliation and consequently won't make a push to include or pass ...
The White House made it official on Tuesday: the president doesn't think the votes are there to get a public option passed through reconciliation and consequently won't make a push to include or pass ...
 
 
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hypnotoad72
Freedom = real democracy = living wages
07:13 PM on 03/07/2010
The majority of the voting public supports it.

How can our "representatives" not be on board? It can't be about cost, as we've spent a lot more, for less, on other issues, for numerous years. And republicans and the blue dogs didn't complain back then...

What prompted the President to do a 180 from this clip he presented in 2003?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE
Sandmanj
Tread gently. Mother nature is pregnant.
10:41 AM on 02/25/2010
In other words, since Obama's afraid of counting his chickens before they hatch, he's decided to kill the entire flock of chickens so he can rest assured he'll never have to count any chickens. Ever.
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MissVirginiaVoter
Turn your radio down!
01:00 AM on 03/03/2010
What?
11:32 PM on 02/24/2010
PLEASE President Obama and Democratic Legislators find some courage and do what the people who voted you in want. We are depending on you. Don't wimp out.
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Robert Cortez
If I had all the answers I wouldnt be writing here
09:44 PM on 02/24/2010
I don't care who thinks they have the votes or not. I want to have an up and down vote on the public option, so we can target the bastards that favor the insurance industry over the American people.
11:25 PM on 02/24/2010
Well said...after all the U.S. is ranked #37 in it's health care right next to Slovenia!

Sounds like we are really winning as a country and a people as we constantly get raped up the "a" hole by corporate interests and Republican corporate elitists thieves.

For a decade..I didn't know if I should raise both my hands in the air....or bend over.
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bascombe
Send the kids off to die, bleed their country dry.
08:40 PM on 02/24/2010
then O-Hoover won't have the votes, either.
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denicci1977
35 yrs, female Georgia early voted 4 Obama2012!
07:59 PM on 02/24/2010
I don't care, put it in there. I want to see who has the guts to go before America and vote down this bill over the public option being in it. PUT IT IN THE BILL !!!!!
04:22 PM on 02/24/2010
How would he know if he didn't even try? Obama does not want a public option!
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Beatriz09
04:41 PM on 02/24/2010
How could he be the very first president capable to create a House and Dem majority for a public option, and at the same time NOT trying to have a public option ... ?

The reason why WE ALL know that today a public option is impossible is because the GOP is filibustering it.

It's incredible how some people manage to turn one of the biggest Dem victories in history into something that is supposed to prove the 'weakness' of this president .. :-)
11:30 PM on 02/24/2010
...and in the end...they can't even begin to explain how Obama won by a landslide.

Could it be that "people" are actually LEARNING something about how bad Republican "trickle down" hasn't worked after 30 years?..while it's caused the biggest threat to freedom and democracy since the civil war.
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sknyjohn
03:28 PM on 02/25/2010
"Anyone who can add knows Republicans are not blocking universal health care. The performances of Republican teabaggers at a few town halls notwithstanding, there are just not enough Republicans in the House and Senate to block anything. The president and his party can roll over Republican opposition any time they want to."

http://tns1.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/whos-blocking-health-care-reform-now-blue-dogs-senate-dems-house-progressives-or-white-house

Obama Received $20 Million from Healthcare Industry in 2008 Campaign http://tr.im/PDqP

Protest for Medicare for All http://www.healthcare-now.org/
04:20 PM on 02/24/2010
Neither side cares what the public wants - we are just pawns in theri power plays! Neither side was EVER going to give us real healthcare refore, or any real reform that would hurt corporations. Afterall the corporations are their benifactors;the public is to be conned and teased into believing that there will be change.

The ONLY way to get real change will be thru civil unrest; voting won't work because the candidates are simply fronts for the selfish, greedy mega rich thieves!
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Beatriz09
04:45 PM on 02/24/2010
FYI: polls show that once you explain what's in the bill, a majority of the people want it.

Who is today trying to sign it into law?

The Dems.

Who is trying to block it?

The GOP.

How many jobs did we lose a month under Bush? Each month 100.000 more than the previous month. How many under Obama? Each month 100.000 LESS than the previous month.

To me it's rather clear who is for the people and who is against them or simply don't care...
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sknyjohn
03:32 PM on 02/25/2010
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"Anyone who can add knows Republicans are not blocking universal health care. The performances of Republican teabaggers at a few town halls notwithstanding, there are just not enough Republicans in the House and Senate to block anything. The president and his party can roll over Republican opposition any time they want to."

http://tns1.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/whos-blocking-health-care-reform-now-blue-dogs-senate-dems-house-progressives-or-white-house

Obama Received $20 Million from Healthcare Industry in 2008 Campaign http://tr.im/PDqP

Protest for Medicare for All http://www.healthcare-now.org/
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Saturdayboy
04:11 PM on 02/24/2010
How is it that something that has the support of a majority of Americans doesn't have the votes?
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Beatriz09
04:43 PM on 02/24/2010
53 Dem Senators are pro public option. The GOP filibusters the bill, so we need 60 Senators pro public option. There are only 57 Dem Senators.

Seems simple to me, no .. ?
10:06 PM on 02/24/2010
The public option could pass through reconciliation.

If the President would show more leadership and promote the public option (like he did originally, before backing down) -- if the Senate Democrats would sign on and insist on it -- if Harry Reid would lead instead of following...

then it would happen.
But they won't, so it won't.
When did "yes we can" turn into "no we won't?"
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Saturdayboy
11:59 AM on 02/25/2010
Not simple... If this a government for the people, by the people then why wouldn't there be more senators voting for the bill? And since when is it acceptable that fillibusters decide all policy initiatives in this country?
03:37 PM on 02/24/2010
Here's a heads up Mr Gibbs: after 4 years of your boss' betrayals and backpedaling on his promises, he won't have the votes either - no matter how many millions Wall Street gives him.
03:26 PM on 02/24/2010
Doesn't think, doesn't know if the votes are there? More like the president doesn't care and Does Not Want A Public Option. Pockets lined. Deals made. Wait a minute. Hey they did not include what American citizens want and need. How can that be? Change we can believe in? That was just a catchy campaign slogan. Nothing more, and disappointingly, frustratingly far less.
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guveqzero
Inventor and Innovator
03:24 PM on 02/24/2010
Why look like your compromising your principles for expediency? This is pure Obama politics. I just hope this turns out better than what the big bankers compromise did to America.
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sknyjohn
02:55 PM on 02/24/2010
Obama's full of it & he knows it.

2/3 of u.s. support Medicare-for-all
http://tr.im/PDmF
http://tr.im/PDnc

Obama Received $20 Million from Healthcare Industry in 2008 Campaign http://tr.im/PDqP

Even Repubs, Dems, Blue Dogs and Tea Partiers Love Medicare (current system) http://tr.im/PDrS

Make him & congress enact Medicare for All; more info @ any of the above links
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aseasonforreason
02:48 PM on 02/24/2010
Adam Green speaks truth. The Democrats - and White House - have the numbers that matter: the polls. If they choose to pass an unpopular healthcare reform bill that favors a broken status quo instead of passing a popular healthcare reform bill that creates an option that promotes affordability, accountability and competition... they are fools.

Today is the Virtual March for Health Care Reform! March alongside over 700,000 who are making their voices heard.
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=86527&rc=vm.tweet #hcr #publicoption
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Gitta
New Era Feng Shui Design
03:42 PM on 02/24/2010
"...they are fools." And accountable as traitors. Looking at this mess, I just see seams unraveling all around me, social seams, governance seams, and the if the mandate is lowered on us, I'd say we lost WW2. The mandate is indentured servitude, and with no public option it's nothing but fascism.
04:20 PM on 02/24/2010
Neither side cares what the public wants - we are just pawns in theri power plays! Neither side was EVER going to give us real healthcare refore, or any real reform that would hurt corporations. Afterall the corporations are their benifactors;the public is to be conned and teased into believing that there will be change.

The ONLY way to get real change will be thru civil unrest; voting won't work because the candidates are simply fronts for the selfish, greedy mega rich thieves!
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bascombe
Send the kids off to die, bleed their country dry.
09:06 PM on 02/24/2010
thanx. I voted.
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Jebel
02:43 PM on 02/24/2010
So what if they think they haven"t got the votes!!
Fight for it !!!
Such a pussycat President and White House.
They just don't have the fight in them.
Leadership is leadership........and it is ABSENT.
And if they are not willing to fight for me,
well..........so long guys.........