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HUD Wants Help Creating Anti-Gay Discrimination Study

KAREN HAWKINS   02/24/10 05:10 PM ET   AP

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CHICAGO — When federal officials studied housing discrimination based on race, the setup was simple: They sent in testers of different backgrounds and gauged how landlords and real estate agents treated people of color compared with whites.

As the government prepares a first-ever study of housing discrimination against gays, however, the issue is more complex. How do you design a study to make an applicant's sexual orientation or gender identity as obvious as race and color?

Starting Thursday, the U.S. Housing and Urban Development Department will enlist residents in three cities with large gay populations – Chicago, New York and San Francisco – to offer ideas on how such a study should be conducted.

Bias complaints and lawsuits nationwide make clear that gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people face housing discrimination, from being turned down for apartments to being steered away from certain neighborhoods, but no one has tried to track how common such bias is. HUD hopes to begin collecting data next year.

"This really is groundbreaking," said Raphael Bostic, HUD's assistant secretary for policy development and research, who's overseeing the study. "Nothing like this has ever been tried before at this scale and certainly not by a federal agency."

Several organizations and states have conducted smaller studies, but experts said no one has had the time or money for a national study. There's also the issue of how to design the study to ensure it detects actual bias.

Those testing "have to think of a way to make it clear that this is a gay couple and not just two men who really can't afford to do anything than get a single apartment with a single room," said John Knight of the American Civil Liberties Union.

Bostic said researchers plan to get "creative" in designing the study, and he hopes the input and stories from meetings in the three cities will help. Officials are working on a way to let people elsewhere weigh in through e-mail or Web-based seminars, he said.

The federal Fair Housing Act, which prohibits discrimination in sales and rentals of homes, doesn't cover gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people. Advocates hope HUD's effort to gather data could be a first step toward obtaining legal protections.

"It finally will give us hard data to back up the heartbreaking stories of discrimination we've been hearing for years," said Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force. "This HUD study will show that there are a class of people ... who have been repeatedly shut out of that portion of the American dream."

Chicago, New York and San Francisco all ban housing discrimination based on sexual orientation and, more recently, gender identity. The number of complaints about anti-gay bias filed with authorities has been relatively low – generally less than 10 percent of all housing complaints – but that can be attributed to some declining to out themselves by stepping forward, advocates said.

Fear of being outed is also a reason to hold the HUD sessions in big cities, where anti-gay bias may be less prevalent than elsewhere but where people also are more willing to discuss it when it happens, said Carey.

A study by Michigan's Fair Housing Centers, a group of private advocacy organizations, found nearly 30 percent of same-sex couples were treated differently when trying to buy or rent a home. Such treatment included a male landlord who made sexually charged comments to a lesbian couple and a Detroit landlord who told testers, "No drugs, prostitution, homosexuality, one-night stands."

Bill Greaves, Chicago's liaison to the gay community, said he expects people to describe a different type of housing discrimination.

"I think people are going to say that the discrimination in the rental and sale of housing is less a problem than the harassment and discrimination people experience after they've moved into their new home," Greaves said. He described a case in which Chicago awarded $12,000 in damages to a gay man after his landlord outed him to his family, called him derogatory names and threatened to evict him.

HUD also is developing regulations to ensure gays and lesbians aren't denied access to federally subsidized housing based on their sexual orientation. Bostic said the Obama administration is committed to working with the community on housing issues.

"The president has this as a priority," he said.

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CHICAGO — When federal officials studied housing discrimination based on race, the setup was simple: They sent in testers of different backgrounds and gauged how landlords and real estate agents...
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PhilipB
01:17 AM on 02/25/2010
Well. OF COURSE LGBT face discrimination in housing!
Uh. Hello?
this is exactly why marriage by law, equal to everyone else is so important! I feel like I am holding up a flag for truth!
My family is as good as the straight family to the right and left of me, and it is WRONG that we are discriminated against and not able to be married.
I know that is true in my heart, and no hate waged against us can change that!
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plaidsportcoat
12:47 AM on 02/25/2010
How to do it? maybed send a feminine sounding and looking gay man with a female partner to submit one rental application, then send the same feminine man with a male partner to the same agent to submit an application and see what happens. Or something like that.
11:45 PM on 02/24/2010
THIS COUNTRY needs an "Anti-Gay Discrimination Study!"
11:13 PM on 02/24/2010
I will nevrr discriminate against gay women :)
12:13 AM on 02/25/2010
I will [never] discriminate against gay MEN or WOMEN!
10:57 PM on 02/24/2010
Chicago, New York and San Francisco? Do landlords really discriminate against gays in those cities? Because that would be incredibly stupid... they'd be cutting out a huge percentage of potential renters, renters who, on average, earn more than the general population.
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TeraWatt60
Cogito Ergo Sum
10:47 PM on 02/24/2010
Ok kiddies gather round and this old man [I'm 49 soon to be 50 :( ] way back in the early 80's my partner and I went apartment hunting and we decided we weren't going to hide (too much) we had both just graduated college and so a one bedroom would suit us.... complex after complex refused to rent a 1 bedroom to two men. We ended up doing the typical end run and one of us went back and instant rental....things have come a long way but just as with other minorities discrimination probably hasn't changed just become more subtle.

As has been pointed not renting to gays is counterproductive as the old chestnut goes --

"Watch It Fundie or we'll restore YOUR neighborhood"
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hark
10:44 PM on 02/24/2010
I can't wait until civil rights for atheists becomes an issue, so maybe they can get elected to public office. How are they going to check discrimination against them?
11:20 PM on 02/24/2010
Yeah how did George Washington get elected, anyway?

True, he was a freemason - they believe in a god - but it's agnostic. Agnostic and atheist are pretty similar imo.
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TeraWatt60
Cogito Ergo Sum
11:55 PM on 02/24/2010
Agnostics are not sure usually because of societal pressure and atheists dont give a flip they know there is no bolt of lightning to strike them down
10:43 PM on 02/24/2010
A waste of tax payers money.
10:49 PM on 02/24/2010
I agree it is pointless.
10:51 PM on 02/24/2010
Hi, T, did u read my reply comment back to you?
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henrypapillon
Put a Psychiatrist in every NRA meeting.
10:39 PM on 02/24/2010
Well, uh, gay.
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Ricky Barnes
10:39 PM on 02/24/2010
Generally speaking, the "gay" individual will find happiness in, will show affection to, will love that and they which the small-minded couldn't and wouldn't. Essentially, the "gay" individual cannot, will not live in the box you assign them.

They who seem happy but otherwise make you uncomfortable are gay individuals. They may happen to be homosexuals too.
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10:21 PM on 02/24/2010
1) I seriously doubt Chicago, New York and San Francisco will yield an accurate representative sample. As hubs of Urban Gay Culture these cities are populated with Urban Gays living the Urban Gay lifestyle which is, in and of itself, a stereotype.

2) This is not about what homosexuals look like. This is about what heterosexual bigots think Gay people look like.
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10:23 PM on 02/24/2010
Spot-on and fanned.
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terry63
treasure hunter.
10:30 PM on 02/24/2010
They are really good hair stylist's, and great interior decorators.
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titantom
10:42 PM on 02/24/2010
And Great Football Coaches and many other non stereotypical things you wish to hold us to.
10:12 PM on 02/24/2010
Simple. Take the best of the Pride parade and send them "out" for house and apartment hunting. Find the biggest lisps, the boys in fashion, maybe even have a couple kiss each other during the walk through. That should set the bigots off and show who discriminates.
10:05 PM on 02/24/2010
It's counterproductive to discriminate against the gays in housing. If you really think about it, the nicest and most historical neighborhoods in the Western World are always the gay areas. Like Le Marais in Paris, Leidseplein in Amsterdam, Greenwich in NY, Castro in San Fran, Montrose in Houston, etc.
11:06 PM on 02/24/2010
>If you really think about it, the nicest and most historical neighborhoods in the Western World are always the gay areas.

As a straight person, I totally agree with the accuracy of that statement. I also think that raising kids in a "gay area" is toxic. "Nice" areas are polite, efficient, and good for business. That's not what kids appreciate though.
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realpolitik78
wake me up when its over
10:01 PM on 02/24/2010
get your pitch-forks, its a good old fashioned p.c. witchhunt
09:52 PM on 02/24/2010
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I'm all for equal rights but I don't think this is a good idea.
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uniquelyme
09:56 PM on 02/24/2010
Because...you get all icky inside?
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USABrazil
Homo sum humani nihil a me alienum puto
10:02 PM on 02/24/2010
LMAO
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Tmboy
Reading comments messes with my ZEN, but I'm addic
10:50 PM on 02/24/2010
what exactly is not a good idea?