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Now On To Passing The Bill

First Posted: 04/27/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:40 PM ET

Pelosi Reid Hoyer

Now that the bipartisan health care summit is behind them, Democratic congressional leaders return to the work with a new resolve to move the bill through the final stages.

The effort that had gone a bit slack was given new energy by President Obama's intervention. The summit assured several days of media coverage of health care leading up to it and a full day of focus Thursday.

Republicans, who suspected that the summit was nothing more than theater that needed to be played out before, Democrats forced the bill through using reconciliation, claimed vindication. They were certainly no closer to going along with the Democratic plan.

"I do not believe there will be any Republican support for this 2700 page bill," said Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), the Senate minority leader.

"We can't do it within the framework of a 2700 page bill. That's why the bill needs to be scrapped," suggested Rep. John Boehner, the House minority leader.

Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) complained that Obama, who chaired the meeting, "actually consumed more time than all of the Republicans combined."

The president had said early on that would be the case, noting that he was, after, the president.

Kyl said that it wasn't just details that Republicans objected to, but "the whole concept of the bill."

But that seemed just fine with Democrats. "Every Republican used the same talking points," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters after the meeting.

"I'm hopeful that something may come of it," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). "I'm not overly optimistic that we will get Republican votes for the bill, but that doesn't mean we couldn't incorporate their ideas into legislation, should they put some on the table."

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) noted that Republicans had agreed that, philosophically, regulating insurance is a good idea. The only question remaining, therefore, is what regulations to put into place. He also observed that every Republican in the room had the kind of insurance that they were saying the American people don't want.

Reid pointed out the many points of agreement between the parties. "If logic has anything to do with reaching agreement, it should be pretty easy," he said.

Pelosi, meanwhile, made a forceful argument in favor of the Senate using reconciliation, a parliamentary procedure that precludes the filibuster and therefore allows a simple majority to prevail. But she didn't use the term.

"We can't say to [the American people], at the end of the day, well, we had an idea, we had a vision, we had a majority, but the process did not allow us to make a change for your lives. We need to have the courage to get the job done, and I think we will. And I think today took us a step closer to passing health care," she said.

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Now that the bipartisan health care summit is behind them, Democratic congressional leaders return to the work with a new resolve to move the bill through the final stages. The effort that had gone ...
Now that the bipartisan health care summit is behind them, Democratic congressional leaders return to the work with a new resolve to move the bill through the final stages. The effort that had gone ...
 
 
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COMMUNITY PUNDITS
1murillo 12:11 AM on 02/26/2010
2,700 pages!? With all this time and all those staffers there have been plenty of chances to read those pages. The Republicans are mostly lawyers, legalese is not a good charge.
Legislators are elected to read bills, that's what they - are supposed to anyway - do. 2,700 pages should offer plenty of chances for the GOP to point out downfalls, yet we solely hear of the length. Obama made his 11 pages  Read More...
04:18 AM on 03/01/2010
NOW ON TO VOTING YOU ALL OUT !!!!!
01:33 AM on 03/01/2010
It's simply. If Democrats can't get a meaningful health care reform bill passed they better start packing their bags.
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Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
06:13 PM on 02/28/2010
The only that might get passed is gas. This is hardly real healthcare reform.
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Beg4Nothing
And I know the sunlight bleaches you
10:25 PM on 02/27/2010
Pass the bill! How many Democrats will stay home in November if the bill isn't passed? Why should we show up? All we got was promises, build up the hope and then let the voters crash and burn. I didn't vote for teabaggers in the last election. I voted for Democrats to clean up the mess left behind by Bush Inc. Now that Democrats have the numbers they have to crash and burn the bill over a few issues? Move forward now!
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Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
06:32 PM on 02/28/2010
No public option, the pharma and insurance industries gain while everyone else loses on cheaper meds via Canada and through negotiations with the government, while this ending of pre-existing conditions in insurance and the rate hakes that go with them is a scam and a farce. There's no provision to stop insurance companies from charging three times as much for those they still deem to have a pre-existing conditions. I didn't make that up either; that comes from Howard Dean. This bill in regard to pre-existing condtions is all about access and not healthcare for those who can't afford what insurance companies will ask for those with pre-existing conditions. The democrats for the most part, and Obama espcially, are just happy to get anything through. It's been like that from the outset. Dems had a mandate to have really put through reform with a public option months ago through reconcialition if only they had real leadership from Obama. He's been an utter failure on this, sucking up to Lieberman and reading progressives the riot act when he should have denounced Lieberman and the GOP who never had any intention of reforming anything. He also should have called right-wing dems in and told them their constituents wouldn't even get a tour of the Smithsonion bathrooms if they didn't vote for a public option. Lyndon Johnson would have and, Vietnam aside, that's the sort of president we needed, not some wuss who's caved-in time and again.
01:27 AM on 03/01/2010
I don't disagree with your rant, but here's the thing. The President can't pass legislation! The congress and Senate have to do that. He handed Democrats a mandate to get a public option though and they blew it!
04:40 PM on 03/01/2010
Actually you're incorrect on a couple points.

1) Insurance industries will not be able to charge you 3x as much for having a pre-existing condition. They will be PROHIBITED from price discrimination for any reason other than age (and the most expensive plan can not be over 3x as much as the least expensive plan -- that's probably where you're getting that number) -- pre-existing conditions will NOT affect your price AT ALL.
2) This bill is about affordability -- a huge part of it is the subsidies that will be paid out according to your income to help pay for health insurance. If you can't afford health insurance now, you most likely will be able to under this bill.
09:16 PM on 02/27/2010
I wonder how many pages the 1993 Republican sponsored "Health Equity and Access Reform Today Act" contained when Clinton was in office.

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Graphics/2010/022310-Bill-comparison.aspx

http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Stories/2010/February/23/GOP-1993-health-reform-bill.aspx

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d103:SN01770:@@@L&summ2=m�;0;tatus

I printed the 1770 bill and the 2 versions of related bill 1757 to PDF. Here are the results.

Bill 1770 − 163 PDF pages long

Bill 1757 − 393 Adobe PDF pages long

Bill 1757 2nd version 436 PDF pages long.

And now, the GOP can only come up with a blank sheet of paper for health reform.
05:36 PM on 02/27/2010
send out thoughts of hope and love to the people.

bad things happened today.
05:27 PM on 02/27/2010
The Senate already broke a filibuster to pass a healthcare bill with 60 votes.

If House Democratic leaders choose to bypass conference in order to win a majority vote on the Senate bill, then that bill will go to the President to be signed into law.

The Republicans are completely irrelevant to the process.

Reconciliation will not be used to "ram through" the healthcare bill. Reconciliation will be used to make budgetary modifications to the Senate bill that benefit House Democrats...entice them to support the unaltered Senate bill.
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JohnSawyer
arglebargy
11:51 PM on 02/27/2010
Yes, this "ram through" phraseology is nonsense. If the process over the past year were included in how one looks at the bill, then this would have to be one of the slowest rammings most people have seen in a long time.
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Salty 2
12:18 PM on 02/27/2010
I'm going to save this page and re-post it the day after the next election when the Dems lose big after passing this Dem.bill.
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washlib
01:50 PM on 02/27/2010
just keep living in y0ur myopic reichwingnut world, where falsehood, obstruction and wide stance rule.
03:49 PM on 02/27/2010
Why are you and your side fighting so hard against it then?
09:35 AM on 02/27/2010
VOTE THEM ALL OUT THEY ARE NOT REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE
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BETGR627
a 99%er - Compassion is a good thing! Try it!
09:23 AM on 02/27/2010
My 28 year old son is struggling with money. He works 40+ hours a week but he cannot pay his rent totally and eat at the same time. If there is a mandate - who will pay for his health insurance? Me and his father? We are working hard, I have medical debts in the 20K range from before I had health insurance and because I was taking care of my mom who had Alzheimers, we have no savings. We both work but our debts are huge because we had to remortgage the house in order to pay for Mom's care. WHO pays for our son without a public option. He's trying so hard - he's a good person. But we, his parents, are struggling to to stay on top of it all.

PRESIDENT OBAMA - DESPITE WHAT THE REPUBLICANS SAY, A MAJORITY OF US WANT THE PUBLIC OPTION! PLEASE DO NOT OVERLOOK US!
11:44 AM on 02/27/2010
I doubt your son could afford the public option. Especially seeing how better coverage is going to be mandated
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washlib
01:51 PM on 02/27/2010
nice lies. There will be supports provided for those who cannot afford to pay.

but hey, keep up the l1es, it's easier for you.
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N8tracks
I'm a workaholic
01:15 AM on 03/01/2010
Silliness.
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MIVOTE
Adds wisdom to knowledge
09:01 PM on 02/27/2010
There is a threshold If your son doesn't meet that threshold he won't have to pay and still get coverage.
09:33 PM on 02/26/2010
Support public option
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Okieborn
Equal Rights For All !
03:56 PM on 02/27/2010
To late !!
The President had a big window of opportunity last summer but stood in the shadows and let the shredding begin !
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Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
06:38 PM on 02/28/2010
Agreed Okie. Obama tossed a public option out that window long ago. Howmany times did he mention a puhblic option diring this let's be nice and get together forum this past week? How many times did he say he woul dpush for it and not just consider it during the past year?
09:18 PM on 02/27/2010
This link provides current status for supporters of public option.

http://whipcongress.com/?source=letter
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CTtransplant
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we gro
07:12 PM on 02/26/2010
I don't think it would be too difficult to get this passed:

This is a solution I sent to my Senator (Reid)...simple and self-sustaining:

1) Pass Medicare for All (with an opt-out for those who do not want to participate) through reconciliation and let it start as early as July, 2010;

2) Change it so that there are no income limits on Medicare/Social Security contributions as of July, 2010 - it should continue for everyone until retirement age...and only THEN should Medicare/Social Security contributions stop! In other words, pay into it until you go on Social Security! Very straight forward...and simple to do!

3) Eliminate the anti-trust exemption for insurance companies...although, if 1) & 2) are put in place, the buying power of the Federal Government will assist in cost reduction/containment.

4) Assign a reasonable monthly premium to Medicare for All that will be affordable for all!

And, by all means, get RID of the offshore account tax loopholes! This is what creates an unfair burden on the backs of middle-class taxpayers!

Eliminating the pre-existing condition clause is a given. But this plan would have an added benefit that cannot be overlooked – with the rising costs of insurance, many employers are feeling the crunch…alleviate this pressure by opening up Medicare to ALL, and you increase the likelihood that employers will begin hiring
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MaxxMahOnline
Author, Professional Writer, Independent Publisher
07:42 PM on 02/26/2010
Hey, I support your ideas. I would LOVE to be able to buy in to Medicare. Fax your suggestion to the President. I think they have a couple of the things you mentioned in the bills. And, thanks for being a member of the grown-up and not being part of the haters and whiners. Right will always prevail Peace!
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CTtransplant
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we gro
07:51 PM on 02/26/2010
Thanks, Maxx! Appreciate it! Peace!
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Kache
Toodlum, wake up, I hear a prowler downstairs
03:30 AM on 02/27/2010
If you change the word "medicare" to "the same insurance system federal employees have" you'll find that it is already in the Senate and House passed bills. That system is run by a board of civil servants as a non-profit system. As such, they set the policies and rates completely immune from Congressional meddling. On the other hand, Medicare is and a Public Option would be directly controlled by Congress. Imagine having Newt Gingrich for the CEO of your insurance company. That is not that far fetched. Those horror stories about British health care - they happened during Maggie Thatcher's attempt to dismantle the British government.
07:02 PM on 02/26/2010
Pass the bloody bill and move on to the economy.
03:10 PM on 02/26/2010
Jobs number next week. Experts forecast is the lose of 200,000 jobs in February.
Hell of a job Barack
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teschman
03:32 PM on 02/26/2010
Go to Bloomberg and get a sense of where we are, instead of posting dribble. Read up on past recessions job loss. You will find that the thing that lags behind in a recovery is job growth. We are witnessing GDP growth instead of shrinkage. First sign of a slow recovery. Now google up worldwide unemployment, recession. You will find that we are in much better shape than a lot of other countries. This is a world wide recession. Next read something about economics visa vie recessions. You will a word across the board STIMULUS next the that word is government.
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Salty 2
03:40 PM on 02/26/2010
It's going to be worse than Obama said it would be (as usual)
03:41 PM on 02/26/2010
Thanks and fanned. Talk about memory loss! Not that I exactly approve of Obama's sidelines style, and I am disgusted that more stimulus funds are not being applied to small businesses and imperilled homeowners. But to blame Obama for the recession is ridiculous.
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Raccoon1
These are the times that try men's souls........
06:41 PM on 02/26/2010
Easy to spot the Republicants. They can't spell.
02:40 PM on 02/26/2010
Even Obama's FED says unemployment will average 9.8% unemployment for 2010. We need jobs Barack not a heatlh care system that you surely will screw up more than it already is
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02:43 PM on 02/26/2010
National healthcare legislation in Congress could slow the growth of medical costs, allowing employers to create 250,000 to 400,000 new jobs a year over the next decade, economists from Harvard University and USC are predicting.

Wading into the hotly debated issue of whether the legislation is a job creator or a job killer, researchers from the two universities say that the reforms under consideration would slow the rate of cost increases and free up money for companies to raise wages and hire more workers.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jan/08/business/la-fi-health-jobs8-2010jan08
02:45 PM on 02/26/2010
Fricken HILARIOUS. Benefits dont kick in for 4-5years.
02:46 PM on 02/26/2010
OK Barack JR. How much will the second ten years cost us??? LMAO
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MaxxMahOnline
Author, Professional Writer, Independent Publisher
07:51 PM on 02/26/2010
Let me guess...Ah ah ah...you're a Republican right? And I would be right that you want the Dems to start over...right? NO! You had your chance, and you lost. It's not a PERFECT bill, but it will give me access. So hate on, hate on. Haters of American Unite.
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JDinSeattle
09:39 PM on 02/26/2010
They did, but they are presently busy eating their young, or teabaggin', either way, we should take better advantage.