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Yvo De Boer: Climate Change Treaty Unlikely This Year

JIM GOMEZ   02/25/10 08:44 AM ET   AP

Indonesia Environment Forum

BALI, Indonesia — Industrialized and developing countries are not likely to reach a treaty this year on cutting greenhouse gas emissions, which have sparked fears of weather-related disasters, the U.N. climate chief said Thursday.

Yvo de Boer, who announced last week he would resign July 1, said there was not enough time to recover from the disappointing summit in December in Copenhagen, where world leaders failed to agree on a legally binding climate pact.

Bickering between rich and poor countries over emissions cuts and financial assistance undermined the talks and forced them to settle on a voluntary plan.

"I think Copenhagen demonstrated that sometimes if you try and go too quickly, you actually achieve less progress," de Boer told The Associated Press in an interview.

More than 190 nations will reconvene in Cancun, Mexico, later this year for another attempt to reach a binding agreement to keep the Earth's average temperature from rising more than 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit (2 degrees Celsius) above levels that existed before nations began industrializing in the late 18th century.

U.N. scientists have said any temperature rise above that figure could lead to catastrophic sea level rises threatening islands and coastal cities, the killing off of many species of animals and plants, and the alteration of agricultural economies of many countries.

De Boer said more time was needed to establish a framework of mitigation steps, along with financial and climate change aid that can convince developing countries to support a new deal.

He said the focus should shift toward reaching an agreement at a summit next year in South Africa before the Kyoto Protocol expires in 2012.

"It's very close to the deadline and that's a problem," de Boer said.

"The first priority is to rebuild confidence and trust in the process," he said, adding that developing countries need to be convinced that "there are incentives that will allow them to act on climate change but also meet national economic development goals."

"If you can't show that there are real advantages, then it will never happen," he said.

De Boer spoke on the sidelines of an annual U.N. conference of environmental ministers. The conference is being held on the Indonesia island of Bali, where de Boer oversaw a historic agreement to start climate talks in 2007.

De Boer said his resignation last week had nothing to do with the outcome of the Copenhagen meeting, saying he was encouraged that countries pledged to provide tens of billions of dollars in financial aid that will help poor countries adapt to climate change.

He urged the immediate dispersal of those funds, which start at $30 billion over the next three years and will be scaled up to $100 billion a year by 2020.

"I think my message would be that you can achieve much more in life with carrots than with sticks," de Boer said.

But it is unclear when that will happen.

Karl Falkenberg, the E.U. Commission's director-general of environment, said Wednesday that such aid to poor countries could not be disbursed in the absence of any binding agreement on greenhouse gas emission cuts.

"If the international community cannot find any kind of agreement, then it's going to be very difficult to put this into effect," Falkenberg said.

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Overtone
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09:49 AM on 03/01/2010
AN ALTERNATIVE THAT CAN GARNER WIDESPREAD SUPPORT!

However, first it must overcome disbelief.

The rising price of oil might cause another financial cataclysm in the near future..

Ordinary water appears to be a potential alternative to oil when it is used to supply fractional Hydrogen, a little known breakthrough.

See: "Hydrinos Offer Free Fuel for the World's Power Plants" at www.american-reporter.com

We are developing fractional hydrogen to allow water to become the fuel for hybrid cars. A few gallons might power an automobile 1,000 miles; since one barrel of water can equal 200 barrels of oil.

These engines will be designed to run when the car is parked, providing up to 150 kilowatts of electricity to the local power company. No wires needed. The vehicles might be able to pay for themselves!

See: http://www.aesopinstitute.org to learn more.

Two laboratories have validated fractional Hydrogen. More, including the national labs, ought to do so without delay.

Once ordinary water becomes an accepted alternative to oil, it will become obvious that cars as power plants will be an inexpensive alternative to building new coal or nuclear plants.

Sale of electricity from a parked car was recently demonstrated. With 10 kW, the car earned $30/hr. Imagine what 150 kW might earn.

Consumer demand for cars and trucks that pay for themselves might prove a workable path to rapidly reducing the need for fossil fuels!
01:23 PM on 03/02/2010
If it ducks like a quack, it's a...
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Richard2
03:00 PM on 02/28/2010
The 2007 IPCC report was primarily a propaganda piece written to influence political leaders around the world. The numerous factual errors in the report have now become known to the whole world. political leaders now realize the report was not based on real science. They realize they have been taken advantage of by a group of environmental activitists.

For his involvement in the 2007 IPCC report, Mr. De Boer should be forced to resign. Oh, he already has.

The head of the IPCC, under Mr. De Boer, should be forced to resign. Oh, it is being seriously discussed.

The entire IPCC organization should be shut down, and replaced with a science based organization. Oh, this may be discussed at the "secret" UN review of the IPCC, which will be conducted by persons having no connection to the IPCC.
01:24 PM on 03/02/2010
another pathetic diatribe
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realpolitic
GOP is full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!
10:39 PM on 02/25/2010
The countries who can agree should arrive at an agreement and then invite the other countries in as they can be convinced of its urgency. China has a lot to lose given the melting of the Himalayas which feeds the Yangtze river. India's great river, the Ganges, is also fed by the Himalayas.
07:09 PM on 02/25/2010
We can rough-check climate models via real data, as follows:

Below is a 5 year moving average (satellite/surface data combo, corrected for heat island effects), data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.pdf

It shows temperature rising rapidly from ~1980 by ~0.6 degs. C. Since then, CO2 also rose from 337 to 388 ppm, ~1.7ppm/year, accelerating to +2ppm/year.

www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/#mlo_full

Taken together, the two graphs yield a rise rate of ~0.6 degs. C per 50ppm CO2 increase.

Given human greed and denial, there's little reason to believe we'll do more than shave the current rise rate back to 1.7ppm/year over the next 30 - 40 years. If so, we pass 450 ppm by 2050, for a total increase of 1.4 degs C (2.5 degs F) since 1980. And 530ppm with 3.0 degs C (5.0 degs F) of increase by 2100.

This strictly linear calc ignores methane (21 times stronger a greenhouse gas than CO2) from thawing arctic peat bogs, lowered arctic albedo from melted polar ice caps, increased water vapor (still the dominant greenhouse gas) due to air warmed initially by CO2, etc. - all supra-linear effects, expected to increase the rise rate.

If you want a better estimate, try a full-blown model, like James Hansen's that says +5 degs C by AD 2100 and an eventual 9 meter sea level rise.
07:17 PM on 02/25/2010
Regarding denier attempts to discredit the basic temperature data:

"As suggested by the National Academy of Sciences in its 2006 report, Michael Mann and his colleagues have reconstructed northern hemisphere temperatures for the past 2000 years using a broader set of proxies than was available for the original "hockey stick" study and updated measurements from the recent past. The new reconstruction has been generated using two statistical methods, both different from that used in the original study. Like other temperature reconstructions done since 2001, it shows greater variability than the original hockey stick. Yet again, though, the key conclusion is the same: it's hotter now than it has been for at least 1000 years."
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04:05 PM on 02/25/2010
wonder how many more UAE exposures of the hoax will happen by then
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02:55 PM on 02/25/2010
"The first priority is to rebuild confidence and trust in the process," he said

roflmao..

then LEAD BY EXAMPLE!!!

no really.. not leading by example is what breeds the skepticism!