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Sanders: Obama Has Tragically Lost The Youth, Antagonized Unions

First Posted: 05/10/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:45 PM ET

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A trio of the Senate's leading progressives expressed concern on Wednesday that President Obama has squandered the transformational political coalition that propelled him into office, concluding that he will pay a price for it.

Speaking at a progressive media summit, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) called it a "tragic mistake" that the White House fruitlessly chased Republican votes on health care rather than take advantage of the ripe environment to pass legislation.

"What is very sad is we had hopes that [the] election was transformational in the sense of bringing people into the political process who have never been in it before," Sanders said. "I tried very hard in Vermont to bring young people into the political process. It is very hard to do. Obama did it. But you know where those young people are now? They are not in the political process. They really aren't. We have lost them. We have antagonized trade unionists. We have not done well with seniors. I don't think we have done well with women. And I think that was a tragic mistake."

Certainly, the Vermont Independent was tossing red meat to the liberal crowd. A cadre of bloggers, talk show hosts and radio personalities at the forum repeatedly pressed the senators in attendance to be more aggressive at selling the Democratic agenda -- whether on television or in discussions with the White House.

Alongside Sanders, Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) acknowledged that the president's commitments, specifically in regard to health care reform, had come up short. Discussing the idea of Medicare expansion, he said that the Senate didn't have the will to pursue such a policy because "the president wasn't going to fight for it."

"I know that a lot of you are discouraged about what has happened in the last year," Brown said. "Discouraged that the conservative, moderate wing of the Democratic Party too often seems to holds sway over both caucuses."

Echoing the Ohio Democrat, Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich), admitted that frictions exist within the party over the best path of governance. And, as a result, the message and achievements suffered.

"Not only do we struggle among ourselves because of our differences. But we are not all on the same page all the time," she said.

The harshest indictment (certainly when it came to assessing the job done by the president) was delivered by Sanders. The Vermonter proclaimed that it was a tactical error to start the health care process by stressing the need for legislation to get 60 votes. And he called it only practical that constituencies -- most prominently the nation's youth and its union members -- will sour on the president after he backtracked on campaign promises.

"I happen to believe that Obama ran the best campaign I've seen in my lifetime," Sanders said. 'I think the mistake was made after the election -- that we forget about the grassroots in this country, we forget about the trade unions and we say to them, 'Well, when we campaigned we [were] telling you we were opposed to McCain's tax on health care benefits, but now we have changed our mind.'"

"I think what we have got to re-engage in, is a progressive clear agenda," he added. "I think we have got to go out and rally the American people, get the young people involved again... and engage the grassroots in this country in a significant political battle as we bring forward simple straightforward progressive legislation that takes on the special interests."

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09:43 PM on 03/11/2010
Sanders could have voted NO on this insurance scam bill--but he capitulated--caved.
He needed money for your clinics--I get that. He could have asked The People to donate--we would have supported his clinics in VT much like many have supported Olberman's clinics.
Thought Bernie sold out--Obama is the biggest sell out to date.
Sad but true.
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04:14 AM on 03/12/2010
This statement is Fallacy. The truth?
1. POLITIFACT.COM (RIGHT HAND CORNER) http://www.politifact.com/
2. FACT CHECKING THE MEDIA - FOX MISINFORMATION ON HEALTHCARE http://mediamatters.org/research/201003090020
3. LOBBYING ENFLUENCE http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/index.php
a. http://www.opensecrets.org/influence/index.php
4. MY POINT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaF_MZVWM3E&NR=1
5. EVIDENCE OF MY POINT: http://www.hulu.com/watch/118916/the-big-buy-tom-delays-stolen-congress?c=News-and-Information#s-p1-so-i0
6. DEREGULATING PROTECTIONS FROM CORPORATATE FASCIZM
http://www.hulu.com/watch/118169/the-corporation?c=News-and-Information#s-p1-so-i0
7. Concealing Fascism while Decrying Democracy As Socialism - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/02/gopers-decrying-socialize_n_275196.html
8. BIGGEST BRIBES TO GOP & BLUE DOGS (52 Democrats who vote republican) FACT CHARTShttp://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/74426.html
9. SHOCK AND AWE APPLIED TO US http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aovYZjCoBsc&feature=related
01:30 PM on 03/12/2010
You can wave your hands as frantically as you want to, but the fact remains that Obama's campaign position was for a strong public option, against mandates, and for importation of drugs to drive prices down. He only started actively promoting passage of a specific bill when that bill contained none of them and earlier struck back-room deals with the industry to sink drug importation and the public option.

A lot of people would call that a sell-out, even if you're not willing to.
01:35 PM on 03/12/2010
Yes, even though his sell-out pales into insignificance compared with Obama's, Bernie disappointed me. I've always accepted Howard Dean's willingness to bow to the inevitable and then bounce back into opposition as soon as it again becomes feasible precisely because Howard has always been very public about this being his strategy. Bernie appears to have been doing the same, and IF he has been similarly public (which I don't know one way or the other) I forgive him.
05:50 PM on 03/11/2010
Young people are notorious for valuing style over substance and if Obama is anything, he is style over substance. He has governed like the neophyte that he is and people all over the political spectrum have been exposed to ugly spectacle of unrealistic expectations being battered by real life. The perfect storm political situation of 2008 is over and Democrats missed their opportunity to establish heaven on earth. Unions are coming to the realization that even the Democratic party is not going to commit political suicide to further enrich the penultimate special interest that unions have become. It is about time for all the socialists, community organizers, pacifists, rabble rousers and ex-hippies to put down the signs and bullhorns, take off the bandanas and crawl back into their caves.
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09:45 PM on 03/11/2010
Indeed. Obama is a beautiful looking man but empty on the inside--his heart is with the corporations--not with We The People.
He's a sham.
11:56 AM on 03/15/2010
Obama is not style over substance. He is merely committed to a form of post-partisan politics. New York Times columnist David Brooks recently wrote an article presenting an accurate picture of Obama as a center-left pragmatic reformer who is vilified in ideological terms by partisan hacks on the left and on the right, but the fact that so many people are abandoning ship shows perhaps that America is not really ready for post-partisan politics. Is Obama's reluctance to work within the bi-partisan political structure of Washington a strength or a fatal flaw?

http://www.theinductive.com/blog/2010/3/15/david-brooks-gets-obama-america-right.html
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03:59 PM on 03/11/2010
Is that why the Union said they would replace anyone that didn't vote for the HC bill, the other day ? I have grown grandchild, and they are still behind Obama. The young aren't that stupid, not to see what the Repubs are doing or should I say, not doing !
02:12 PM on 03/11/2010
Obama's facilitation of a real conversation about American politics serves as a poor reason for disliking the president. It is impossible to deny that he lost some of his followers in the process, but to what end? Has he decided to just say "screw you" to all those supporters? Hardly. He has been making an attempt to civilize the political discourse both on and off the airwaves, by specifically addressing those that dislike him. The liberals and progressives are jealous that their Republican siblings are getting all of daddy's attention. Grow up and realize that the president is making an attempt to further YOUR viewpoints by presenting them in a way that members of the GOP might very well listen to.

And Obama losing the young? Try again. The youth are more likely aggravated that their ideas aren't getting pushed through the political process fast enough, if anything at all. Of course participation is down in a portion of society whose attention span is regulated by 30 second commercials and incessant popup adds. They got bored with it, they went to play videogames. Make something happen, and you'll have them back. Subjectively speaking, they're still mostly on Obama's side.
02:33 PM on 03/11/2010
I agree with everything you say. One of the things that Obama promised in his campaign was to work in a bipartisan manner which is how our government should work. It isn't his fault that the GOP decided to obstruct EVERYTHING. Now that it is clear that they will not participate, Obama needs to push ahead to get things done without them. It's too bad it has to work this way because he will be criticized for not being bipartisan even though he tried.
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02:34 PM on 03/11/2010
Actually, recent polls indicate that the GOP is in the ascendancy with young voters and on track to cause Dems serious problems in the next election.

As Senator Sanders points out, we stood at a transformational crossroads and did not capitalize on it. Instead, Obama has chosen as his goal the transformation of political civility rather than policy, and that to me is a huge error in judgment and focus. He could have led on policy, like the public option in health care reform and taking a hardline on regulating the financial industry. Instead, he's cowtowed to industry lobbyists and the GOP in ways that barely make sense, given the public's exasperation in 2008 with both. Now, that exasperation is shifting toward Obama and the Dems, and the thinking among many young voters, amazingly enough, is changing to one of, Gee, maybe the GOP was right all along. Maybe it wasn't just propaganda. Ironically, it's a combination of a continuing barrage of propaganda and Obama's soft-edge that have brought us to this point.
03:56 PM on 03/11/2010
Factually, the president's support amongst young people is virtually unchanged since 5 months ago.

The majority of young people approve of the job he's doing.

What the polls are showing is that young people like most Americans disapprove of the job Congress is doing. As Congress is led by democrats, congressional democrats who are up for reelection without having the President on the ballot to energize young voters are struggling.

That's an indictment of congressional democrats and their failings, not the President.

Next time they should spend some time doing their jobs legislating rather than arguing amongst themselves, undermining the president while at the same time trying to hide behind him every time they run into trouble.
02:01 PM on 03/11/2010
Hey Bernie, "Watch out for that bus!".....you're about to get thrown under it with the rest of the dissenters. Expect an ethics investigation and gay rumours to be appearing any minute
06:06 PM on 03/11/2010
Or maybe your wife thrown into jail.
01:35 PM on 03/11/2010
February Budget Deficit Sets All-Time Record

You can't say Barack Obama hasn't brought to change to Washington. Last month under his watch, the federal government racked up the largest monthly deficit EVER--keeping the country on track to top last year's record for the full year.
02:00 PM on 03/11/2010
And what percentage of that deficit was created by Bush before Obama took office? It doesn't just go away because we have a new president.
04:00 PM on 03/11/2010
Actually the deficit numbers right now are tied to falling government revenues. They are giving everybody tax breaks and extending unemployment benefits and the job recovery has slow. They need more revenue from people becoming gainfully employed. As long as congress refuses to move on infrastructure projects the immediate job recovery will be slow.
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01:30 PM on 03/11/2010
Obama didn't lose the young people. The old, set-in-their-ways members of Congress lost the young people. They are the ones who haven't kept up with the times. Young people are in the age of instant gratification and don't understand why things take so much time. Watching the Democrats in the House and Senate fight among themselves for the last year didn't help. To these young folks, "Old Guys Rule" is a saying that belongs on tee shirts and should not be the last word on their economic and social survival.
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01:47 PM on 03/11/2010
The president’s quest for bipartisanship resulted in endless concessions to the GOP with absolutely nothing in return. The obstructionists will not give a single vote to support his programs anyway. For that, he lost a lot of public support and good will that he may never recover.
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02:22 PM on 03/11/2010
And if he didn't try, he would have been even more "arrogant". He can't win with some people anyway, so it doesn't matter. Those who support the President and the Democratic Party ideals will do so no matter how tough the road gets. The way I see it, you're either a Democrat or your not. You support the party or you don't. Wishy washy voters elect wishy washy officials. No wonder our Democratic Representatives and Senators can't pass anything. I'm starting to really admire the unity of the Republicans. They are united as a voting block.
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02:51 PM on 03/11/2010
I agree. Far better to risk boldly antagonizing a rightwing that promotes greed, fear, and corporatism over compassion, fairness, and security.
01:30 PM on 03/11/2010
Bernie Sanders can kiss my ARSE. He has been in the SENATE forever and has not managed to do a darn progressive thing.

Now he wants Obama to do what Sanders and many others have failed to do for decade. Talk about unrealistic expectation.

Instead of complaining, Sanders needs to get to work. Lead for a change. Work for a change.
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TexasDem0
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01:37 PM on 03/11/2010
Small point: Sen. Sanders has been in Congress for a long time, but he's a relatively new senator.
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02:40 PM on 03/11/2010
At least he's holding the President's feet to the fire from the progressive side--without stabbing him in the back, like Kucinich is doing.
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09:52 PM on 03/11/2010
Kucinich isn't stabbing anyone in the back--learn the facts.
It's Obama and the corporate Dems who are stabbing the people in the back with their wars and support of the insurance cartel.
Kucinich is the decent man left standing and because he won't cave on the people you have the never to call him the backstabbers.
What we need are about 500 more like Dennis in the House/Senate and this country would be a better place.
http://www.democracynow.org/
01:20 PM on 03/11/2010
Obama is a good community organizer/assistant professor. Why does anyone expect more?
01:29 PM on 03/11/2010
Also, Lawyer,

Constiutional law expert and professor of law

Illinois State Senator

US Senator

Nobel Prize winner.
01:38 PM on 03/11/2010
"Constiutional law expert"? Self proclaimed?

Professor of Law - Not. Just an assistant. Didn't have tenure.

Illinois State Senator - Votes Present.

US Senator - For less than 2 years.

The point is he had no relevant experience and is way over his head. He blew a historic opportunity when he had 60 votes.
01:18 PM on 03/11/2010
Senator Sanders has said something I have thought for awhile now. How can a President with a clear mandate from the people use it to buy off Republicans, and have it fail so miserably? And why did he use his political capital on Republicans? We have seen him give choice jobs to ex-bush people while Democrats were left out in the cold. WTF! And now he wants to open nuclear plants, man were we betrayed by giving him our vote. Thats whats going to hurt Democrats in the fall, his actions since he has been in office.
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01:13 PM on 03/11/2010
Sanders is right. Obama needs to start fighting fighting for progressive ideals instead of trying to appease the treacherous republicans who will vote no even on bills they love, just to make the President look bad.
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01:07 PM on 03/11/2010
Sanders went part of the way in denouncing President Obama, but it is true the President has lost a large part of his base young and old and I doubt they will be coming back !!
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12:47 PM on 03/11/2010
I have seen President Obama make mistakes, I have seen him try to be bipartison and I have seen him try to play nice. I now see that changing a little and I think the shaking of hands "across the aisle" may be on it's way to a memory.

This Presidency brought me deeper into politics than I had been before and by doing so, learning a lot of new things (not always good things). I am an Independent and always will be and if elections were held again tomorrow, I would vote again for Obama. I gave Reagen two votes, I gave Bush two votes and President Obama so far has earned the same.

As for "loosing the youth", the attention span was never there to begin with for most of them.
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01:13 PM on 03/11/2010
I think EVERYONE'S attention span is surprisingly short.

I think the young voters that got involved in the 2008 Presidential campaign are learning an important lesson. You have to stick to it, democracy isn't once every four years....and the ones still involved, and there are many, heard President Obama say it in Chicago, you have to continue paying attention and keep up communication with elected officials.

Although I share Sen. Sanders concern, I saw a lot of young people and union members in Washington on Tuesday at the HCAN march. I think we can keep them, we just have to keep asking them to join us, health care is an issue that many young people are not as worried about, unless they have a pre-exisiting condition, or a parent that is struggling. They are concerned about the high interest on their student loans and the lack of job opportunities. We need to keep pointing out the connections.
03:26 PM on 03/11/2010
No, not EVERYONE'S attention span is short.

I started paying serious attention to politics again (after almost a quarter-century's lapse) in 1998, when I got disgusted with Republican efforts to remove Clinton from office. I continued through 2001 (disgusted at how Bush/Cheney perverted 9/11 for their own objectives), 2002-4 (disgusted with how Democrats went along with that), 2006 (disgusted with how Democrats failed to change our course after getting elected to Congress specifically for that purpose), 2008 (mildly optimistic about Obama despite his specific policy positions), and 2009 (beyond disgust at Obama's abysmal failure even to TRY to live up to even those centrist campaign positions).

But perhaps people who came of age in the era of 'Internet time' are more ADD-prone.
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12:39 PM on 03/11/2010
I think Senator Sanders pulled his punch a bit but I can agree with him in general.
12:30 PM on 03/11/2010
Some young people might come back if there's leadership on the student loan front. If some dem's won't vote to end privatization of student loans, then they need to let the legislation go to an up-or-down vote. That takes leadership (i.e., calling people out if you have to), and it may not be enough given expectations.