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The Public Option's Last Stand: A Matter Of Will, Not Votes

First Posted: 05/11/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:50 PM ET

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The public option faces its last stand. With more than 40 senators publicly willing to vote for a health care reform reconciliation package that includes the option, the opportunity to reinsert it into the final bill has never been greater, though the battle is nearly over without having been fought.

Sen. Dick Durbin, the Democrat in charge of rounding up votes for the health care reconciliation bill, said on Thursday that he will whip support for whatever package comes through the House. With 50 Democratic votes, Vice President Joe Biden could then break the tie and send the bill directly to the White House. If any amendments are adopted, it slows the process down by requiring the House to vote once again.

That balance of power gives House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) extraordinary leverage of a historical nature. Pelosi, however, has yet to concede in negotiations that it is the obligation of the House to go first. And the deal that is being reached is driven largely by the White House. But both the Senate and the White House need Pelosi. And the House, of course, has already passed a health care bill with a public option.

If the House does move first, the Senate would essentially face an up-or-down vote on whatever Pelosi sends over. Durbin was asked by HuffPost if he would whip a reconciliation package from the House that included a public option. An analysis of past statements and positions taken by members of the Democratic caucus indicates that there could plausibly be 53 votes for a public option and perhaps several more.

Durbin, in response to the question, said at first that it was hypothetical, but then answered, "I think there will come a time when we reach agreement on what the reconciliation package includes, with the understanding that any changes in the House or Senate could slow down or stop the process."

So whatever comes from the House, that's what you will whip?

"That's basically it," he said. "I hope that what comes from the House is what we agree on going into this debate."

Has that been agreed to yet?

"Not yet," said Durbin.

"Dick Durbin just offered Nancy Pelosi a rubber stamp, something that will never happen again -- especially in a 50-vote reconciliation environment," said Adam Green, when told of Durbin's remark. Green is a co-founder of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which has been pushing for a public option.

If the public option is going to work its way back into health care talks, it will have to do it in the next day or two, before the parties finalize negotiations.

The White House and congressional leaders have not taken much notice of the revived debate over including a public option in the last several weeks, other than to insist, as the administration did, that it doesn't have "political support."

Yet without any whip effort from the Senate or the White House, 41 individual senators have publicly said that they are willing to support a public option through the reconciliation process. The full list is here.

That list does not include several senators who have said they support the public option but may not want to upset the delicate political balance, including Sens. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) and Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), both vocal public option backers.

Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) has not taken a position on supporting the public option through reconciliation, but he has previously said he supports it. What's more, as Finance Committee chairman, he has called this health care reform the most important public policy effort he has ever been involved in. He would be unlikely to kill it over the public option, especially given his state's support for it.

Rockefeller, Harkin and Baucus make it 44.

HuffPost also spoke to Sens. Mark Begich (D-Alaska) and Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) this week. Hagan has previously said that she supports the public option and told HuffPost she'd be open to voting for it through reconciliation, but had to see the details. Begich said that he wouldn't let the health care bill overall "live or die" over the issue of the public option. Sen. Herb Kohl (D-Wisc.) declined to answer when asked by HuffPost about the public option, but he is a reliable Democratic vote and it is difficult to imagine him bucking his leadership on such an important vote. Kohl has previously stated his support for the public option.

Adding Kohl, Begich and Hagan to the total gets Durbin and the White House to 47.

Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) told HuffPost she wasn't sure how she would vote, but she has been a reliable supporter of the president going back to the campaign. She would be the last person to kill health care, Obama's signature domestic policy priority.

Her vote would give Democrats 48.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) has said in the past that he would support a health care bill with a public option.

His vote would bring the number to 49 - one shy.

Sen. Bob Byrd (D-W.Va.) said he would support health care reform done through reconciliation. Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.), who is retiring, has said he's open to using reconciliation to pass health care. Either of their votes would put Democrats over the top and both are gettable with an effort from leadership and the White House.

That would allow senators such as Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.), Mark Pryor (D-Ark.), Jim Webb (D-Va.), Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) and Tom Carper (D-Del.) to vote no.

And if both Byrd and Bayh refused to support the final bill, there's always Sen. Ben Nelson. The Nebraska Democrat badly wants to vote to change the "Cornhusker Kickback," for which he's been pilloried at home and across the nation. Voting for reconciliation is the only way to do it.

In that case, Ben Nelson makes 50 -- or, with Bayh and Byrd, 52.

UPDATE: If true, the news that the Senate parliamentarian told Senate Republicans that the bill must become law before any amendments can be made through reconciliation alters the equation. The House, however, could still pass the Senate bill into law and then send the Senate a reconciliation fix with a public option. The Senate could torpedo that legislation without the concern that no reform package at all will get passed, giving the Senate added leverage.

The underlying dynamic, however, remains unchanged: In the next few days, as the White House and congressional leaders meet to hash out the way forward, the votes appear to exist to include a public option. It's only a matter of will.

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story erroneously suggested that Adam Green saw Durbin's statement as a positive sign. That is demonstrably not the case. Green's point is that Durbin has now put the ball in Pelosi's court.

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11:56 AM on 03/15/2010
******************************** AN OPEN LETTER TO SPEAKER PELOSI ********************************
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We, the people, DEMAND that a strong condition-free PUBLIC OPTION be included in whatever Health Care Reform legislation you enact. We understand and appreciate your support for the Public Option in the past and in the passage of the House Bill.

We understand the new realities and the process constraints in Congress. But, We, the People, care more about RESULTS than process. We are, therefore, deeply disappointed in your last stand on the Public Option i.e. the EXCLUSION of the Public option in your latest effort at Reconciliation.

Health Care Reform is ONLY MEANINGFUL IF:

1. There is a Public Option ( with a clear path to Single Payer, without Co-operatives or Triggers ).
2. The anti-trust exemption for insurance companies is eliminated.
3. The ban on Pharmaceuticals re-importation is removed.
4. Coverage can't be denied based on Age, Sex or Pre-existing conditions.
5. Everybody is covered. (Without Exception)

Madam Speaker, WE DEMAND THAT THE PUBLIC OPTION BE INCLUDED as part of Health Care Reform. If it has to be a SEPARATE RECONCILIATION BILL, SO BE IT.

The White House and the Senate Majority Whip have expressed their support for the Public Option. The ball is in your court. Are you going to let this opportunity of a lifetime pass ?

WE STRONGLY URGE you to include the Public Option. CALL THEIR BLUFF AND LET THEM DEAL WITH IT.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR EXCLUDING A PUBLIC OPTION~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Bernique
Solar is clean, cheap and plentiful
09:11 PM on 03/14/2010
If the Repugs are so convinced that Dems will suffer at the polls in November if health care reform passes, why don't they ENCOURAGE the Dems to pass the bill instead of denigrating it??? After all, if we believe the right wingers, the passing of the bill will benefit the Repugs, right?
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slocomgp
Reality has a liberal bias........
07:13 PM on 03/22/2010
Yes.
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liberalOrgonian
03:30 PM on 03/13/2010
I think the SENATE SHOULD PASS THE HOUSE BILL.
It is a better bill, with out the kickbacks, has a P.O.
The senate can not be trusted for the fixes, if the house goes first and adopts the senate bill.
Distrust for this branch of government has been spoken about all week.
If they have the fortitude to pass the House bill we will all be better off.
If the bill is passed w/o the P.O. the anger and unrest within the dem party will fracture any sense of collision and success. Progressives will consider their ideas unheard. The majority of dems will be deeply disappointed. No telling how many seats the dems will loose in November.
Why are they so determined to sabotaged themselves?
01:49 PM on 03/13/2010
hhahahahahaha public option supporters suck
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Dustee
The Par. T N da BUBBLE.
01:09 AM on 03/23/2010
Not so much.
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dimplesmile7
09:00 PM on 03/12/2010
The Politico article is very different from this and it does not state anywhere that Nancy Pelosi is refusing to include the Public Option. Rachel Maddow is talking about this now.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34335.html
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SeattlePepe
Lean right but sometimes look left
10:22 PM on 03/12/2010
The problem with your post is you assume anyone is watching Rachael Maddow.
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Dustee
The Par. T N da BUBBLE.
01:11 AM on 03/23/2010
I watch, and you should too. You need to be educated.
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Acharn
12:46 AM on 03/13/2010
Uh. What are you talking about? Where is it stated that Nancy Pelosi is refusing to include the Public Option? I went back over this story three times and couldn't find that assertion. I don't normally read Politico -- they're the internet version of Fox News (unless you give that honor to The Drudge Report).
07:49 PM on 03/12/2010
I support the public option, but your math sounds a little simplistic. "They said they would" doesn't mean they will.
06:21 PM on 03/12/2010
Tell democrats to save their political careers and give the american people an option outside of the disgraceful private insurance industry.

Email Nancy - http://www.speaker.gov/contact
06:07 PM on 03/12/2010
Email Nancy - http://www.speaker.gov/contact
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gypsysailor
Things that might have been never were.
06:01 PM on 03/12/2010
Come on Nancy don't be a nancy. Put the Public Option on the table and let's get 'er done! As for those Representatives and Senators out there that are worried about their jobs all I've got to say is this...If you ain't never been unemployed then you ain't been nothin'.
05:48 PM on 03/12/2010
government cheese. free but no brie
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05:39 PM on 03/12/2010
just a bit of history about how the Canadians came to adopt a better health care system...

TOMMY DOUGLAS - Great Canadian - Father of Medicare

"My friends, watch out for the little fellow with an idea." - Tommy Douglas 1961.

For more than 50 years, his staunch devotion to social causes, rousing powers of speech and pugnacious charm made Tommy C. Douglas an unstoppable political force. From his first foray into public office politics in 1934 to his post-retirement years in the 1970s, Canada's 'father of Medicare' stayed true to his socialist beliefs -- often at the cost of his own political fortune -- and earned himself the respect of millions of Canadians in the process.

The child of Scottish immigrants, Douglas spent his formative years in Winnipeg, Manitoba in a home where politics, philosophy and religion were side dishes at the dinner table. His father, a veteran of two wars, worked part-time in an iron foundry. When money was tight, Douglas and his two sisters had to drop in and out of school as they worked occasional jobs to help pay the bills.

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05:40 PM on 03/12/2010
His family's socialist leanings were solidified after Douglas was hospitalized at the age of 10. Due to a bone infection suffered four years earlier, Douglas's knee required several operations - none of which were successful.

Without the money to pay for a specialist, his parents were told that the only option was to amputate their son's leg before the infection spread to the rest of his body. But before that could happen, a visiting surgeon offered to operate on Douglas for free, as long as his students were allowed to attend. The surgery saved Douglas's leg - quite possibly his life - and would serve as his inspiration for his dream of universally accessible medical care.

Not long after this, Douglas would witness firsthand the violent end of Canada's first general strike on a day known as "Bloody Saturday". In the summer of 1919, a teenaged Douglas watched from a rooftop as officers fired on participants in the Winnipeg General Strike and killed two men. The forceful and violent end of the strike further mobilized his dedication to the working man.

read more:
http://www.tommydouglas.ca/
http://www.cbc.ca/greatest/top_ten/nominee/douglas-tommy.html
04:08 PM on 03/12/2010
Tell Nancy Pelosi to support an up/down vote on the public option, email her here: http://www.speaker.gov/contact and call your Senators and Congressmen @ whipcongress.com!!
03:38 PM on 03/12/2010
Obama loyalists are just as bad as Bush loyalists - no principles or facts get in the view of the rosy picture they hold of their dear leader. Obama has crafted this bill is secret meetings with Big Pharma execs in the White House. He refused for months to even release the names of the attendees, despite campaign pledges to televise such meetings on C-SPAN. In the end we get a bill the industry loves, and their profits and stock prices just keep going up. Those are all facts, but Obama loyalists are by necessity having to ignore facts and put blinders on just as Bush loyalists had to, believing that a win for their team is good no matter what it's real-world implications are.
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inthelandoftheblind
Obama wants a strong Middle Class
04:16 PM on 03/12/2010
You think only you have become cynical?We do not live in a tiny village - where a new leader can just decree from his throne - whatever his views & wants may be.

In such a massive economy, left crippled & depleted by the previous administration, the businesses such as the ins. cartel, big Pharma, chem. cos & their poisonous GM agrabusinesses, & big banks become even more powerful, having even more influence.

A deregulated Wall St, and the thieving brokers & traders who walked off with the hard working middle class retirement funds, the wealthy's pots of gold, the money of nations -such as Iceland - which were left bankrupt, any legislation that guts these players - destroys what's been left standing, in this economy, so would be a final death blow. Idealists need not apply.

While I understand these dynamics, I'm not at all appeased or content with this administration being hijacked by what stands as reality. It's seeming little has chanced - just new faces.
05:46 PM on 03/12/2010
Big Pharma loves this legislation; Many docs will move/practice offshore (they have already started, mostly in Costa Rica) leaving patients of Obamacare to PAs and RNs to diagnose and hand out prescriptions, based on govt standards, to anyone unfortunate enough to get sick and maybe nmisdiagnosed.
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01:38 PM on 03/12/2010
Elf Care Reform is the most important legislation in all of Middle Earth.
11:39 AM on 03/12/2010
Obama sold us out on the public option long, long, long ago,

this entire fiasco is now ALL about getting Obama a "win" in order to somehow stop his plummeting approval ratings.

A mandate without reform is no reform at all, but more a boom to the insurance companies themselves.

Obama should announce that he wont run again and lets find a competent Democrat to run in his place,
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ThunderclapNewman
There's Something In the Air
11:42 AM on 03/12/2010
Your entire comment is risible.
12:01 PM on 03/12/2010
boo fn hoo
11:44 AM on 03/12/2010
C'mon ohnoforgotmyusername, if you can't keep up with things, I'm just going to have to ignore you:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/12/dick-durbin-ill-whip-aggr_n_496559.html
12:06 PM on 03/12/2010
fella, im here in dc, grew up with an insurance exec dad, been through 94 and have worked in with and against the dc pol media for years, i know EXACTLY what is going on here...

Obama showed his real intent with the sellout to big pharma on the drug importation bill that woulda saved americans hundreds of billions - which he gave away in trade for a 150 million dollar pro obama media buy by who ? - big pharma itself?!

this is all a charade and a mandate, without a pub option is no reform at all, but rather a boon to the same insurance industry that pays Obamas top outside advisor and mentor, tom daschle, millions...