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House Has Long History Of Political Cowardice, Prolific Use Of 'Deeming Resolutions'

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First Posted: 05/16/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:50 PM ET

Congressional Democrats have done a bit of homework and found, not so surprisingly, that the House has a long history of using parliamentary tactics to avoid tough votes. The lack of courage exhibited by today's members, it turns out, is nothing special.

The first time that the chamber used what's known as a "deeming resolution" -- the mechanism Democrats are leaning toward using to pass the Senate health care bill through the House -- was March 16, 1933.

Then, as now, it involved a bill that had little support in the chamber among individual Democrats, but all of them knew they had to pass it. Very few Democrats want to vote for the Senate version of health care reform, but most are okay with it as long as it's amended through reconciliation.

Less than two weeks into FDR's first 100 days, Congress needed to raise its debt ceiling, a ritual vote that hasn't gotten any easier for the majority party in the intervening 77 years -- and is still political fodder for partisan opponents.

Instead of voting on the underlying Senate bill to raise the debt ceiling in 1933, the House voted on Resolution 63, which stated that "immediately upon the adoption of this resolution the bill H.R. 2820, with Senate amendments thereto, be, and the same hereby is, taken from the Speaker's table to the end that all Senate amendments be, and the same are hereby, agreed to."

In other words, it was deemed passed and sent to the president for his signature.

There was some confusion on the House floor about the process.

"Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry," said Rep. Bertrand Snell (R-N.Y.), according to a transcript unearthed by Democrats. "Mr. Speaker, it would seem to me that if we adopt this resolution that ends the bill and there is no further vote on the bill itself."

"That is correct," Speaker Henry Rainey (D-Ill.) told Snell.

"I understood the gentleman from Alabama to say that we would then vote for or against the bill," responded Snell.

That gentleman then corrected himself. "No; the gentleman from Alabama was mistaken," said Rep. John McDuffie (D-Ala.).

"If we adopt this resolution, we pass the bill," Snell clarified.

Yes, said McDuffie. "We have then concurred in the Senate amendment, and, therefore, the bill is passed, so far as the House is concerned," he said.

"And there is no other vote on the bill," said Snell.

"No other vote on the bill, as I understand it," said McDuffie.

"That is correct," chimed in the Speaker.

Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.), the second-ranking Republican in the House, said modern-day Democrats are using "gimmicks" to bend the rules. Republicans, however, have often made use of the deeming resolution themselves -- 36 times in 2005 and 2006, when they controlled the lower chamber. Democrats used deeming resolutions 49 times in 2007 and 2008.

The GOP wasted no time using it as soon as they took the majority in 1948. This time it was left to former Speaker Sam Rayburn (D-Texas), who would retake the gavel in 1949, but was briefly in the minority, to wonder about the maneuver.

The issue again was the debt limit.

"Mr. Speaker, a parliamentary inquiry," ventured Rayburn.

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Congressional Democrats have done a bit of homework and found, not so surprisingly, that the House has a long history of using parliamentary tactics to avoid tough votes. The lack of courage exhibited...
Congressional Democrats have done a bit of homework and found, not so surprisingly, that the House has a long history of using parliamentary tactics to avoid tough votes. The lack of courage exhibited...
 
 
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03:31 PM on 03/17/2010
they are all crooks and li@rs including Pelosi and Reid.

Just look at how much money Pelosi has taken in contributions:

Lawyers/Law Firms: $772,325
Health Professionals $594,200
Securities & Investment $582,450
Real Estate: $554,272
Pro-Israel: $376,440
Lobbyists: $371,219
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02:48 PM on 03/17/2010
One of the characteristics of the House is that more fresh ideas come out of there versus the Senate which is stale and where they are comfortable doing nothing. However the 2 year term means those representatives are practically in constant campaign mode. This makes them subject to corporate donations and leads to them being easily swayed by public opinion polls.

Maybe the solution is to go from 2 to 4 year terms in the House and set a limitation to how many times a Senator can be reelected. I don't know, but some changes are needed.
01:26 PM on 03/17/2010
deemed is a cool name for a band.
09:43 AM on 03/17/2010
The Senate have 'Deemed', themselves irrelevant, as they have been double dipping for years. Being paid by the People, then again by the lobbyist's they represent. On a construction site, if a carpenter starts to argue with his level, another worker would tell him, "it's time for you to go to the house". That's where we're at now. It's time for the Senate to, "Go to the House".
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08:34 AM on 03/17/2010
If they don't want to support it, then they shouldn't have to. To pass the bill because it will make history is sorry excuse. This bill was weakened and caved in to the insurance industry by the Senate. The insurance industry will be gaining 30 million more policies, and you what!! they will continue raising premiums. The donut hole in medicare will go away, but the prices of prescription drugs will still be more affordable out of the country. The Democrats made this bill weak to get Republican support, and it didn't work. So why cave in at all. The public Option is the only way the Insurance Industry will reduce premiums, and spend on healthcare.
10:54 PM on 03/16/2010
I rather think it is the SENATE who are the gutless bas.tards. And that is being nice
12:52 PM on 03/17/2010
I agree. I understand the House has passed over 280+ bills that the senate hasn't bothered to even look at. In my mind, Nancy's doing her job. Harry's the one who's a major pill.
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09:56 PM on 03/16/2010
A manoeuvre long used by a bunch of gutless bastards, irrespective of the Party they belong to.
justobserve
Not left nor right or center. Just a free thinker!
07:53 PM on 03/16/2010
Yes, instead of voting for the Senate bill, Pelosi should include the Alan Grayson's Public Option Act for voting.
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06:45 PM on 03/16/2010
Count all of them cowards. They forget who they are suppose to support, us, not big business,
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02:32 AM on 03/17/2010
They know fully well who they represent - and it's not us - we don't pay them enough. They work for the people who fill their campaign coffers. And that would be the multi-national corporations who have the money to fill the coffers.

And that's why they have not passed laws to publicly finance campaigns, any more than they have passed a law that makes it illegal for them to use insider knowledge to play the stock market - hence their portfolios are 12% above the average.

They either participate in the transfer of wealth in this country or they do nothing to stop it by turning a blind eye to it.

And until we change things, they will get the cake. We will get the crumbs.

2000 - banks owned 17% of GDP
2009 - banks owned 63% of GDP

They didn't print that money - it came from us.

Citibank calls it a Plutonomy - were government exists to support the top 1% who own the majority of the wealth.

If you're not in the top 1%, you're just a worker bee that they insure with a "dead peasant" policy - because you'll be worth more to them when your dead than you are now.
03:40 PM on 03/17/2010
That is what happens when the Federal Government goes into deep debt. The solution is to cut the deficit and balance the budget. Passing unfunded stimulus plans, bail outs, and wars causes the problem.

CUT SPENDING and BALANCE THE BUDGET and you will fix the problem.
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05:44 PM on 03/16/2010
I've often felt that the lack of nuts shown by congressmen ( and women ) has as much to do with the 2 year term as anything. 10 minutes after being sworn in they're working towards their next election by voters who these days seem to like someone who lays low and tells them what they want to hear no matter how far removed from reality.
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massjim
Dem? Repub? Is there a difference?
05:08 PM on 03/16/2010
This is a really great bill that the Democrats are proud to bring forward ,and the President called for an up or down vote, but the House has a long tradition of cowardice so they'll hide behind a procedure.

Not very proud to have voted for Obama right now.
06:34 PM on 03/16/2010
Amen massjim... amen. Is he still beter than McPalin? yes.

But he is no kind of leader at all. If Obama had led vigourously (instead of been such an ambivalent doormat) healthcare would be done by now. All his 'change' is on the backburner. I don't think he has a front burner. I certainly can't name what was on the frontburner for the last 12 months.
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treetracker
02:38 AM on 03/17/2010
It's been more like he's had to put out one fire after another. Who has tie for a front burner?

I'm not particularly thrilled in a lot of ways either. But Obama DOES NOT make the laws - Congress does. And it is the Congress that should be blamed for much of the mess that we're in - including several previous Congress' going back to the Clinton years.

They've sold us into serfdom from the 90's to now. And if this Congress doesn't fix it, we may never regain the middle class, they will just continue to deteriorate.

And right now, it's not looking too good. There are few of this bunch I would keep. The rest can go. They are either part of the problem or have turned a blind eye to the problem.

Time to send them home!
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04:58 PM on 03/16/2010
NEW PUBLIC OPTION BILL INTRODUCED, HAS SUPPORT, NEEDS MORE TO AVOID TABLING AND GO FOR A VOTE. LAST CHANCE

Rep. Alan Grayson has introduced HR 4789, Public Option, medicare based, all persons eligible to buy in. He's got legislators willing to bring it to a vote, but we need more. You can download it (it's only 4 pages PDF) at http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/healthcare/87053-hr-4789-and-the-public-option-the-way-forward-rep-alan-grayson. I read it, it's enough to get PO. Download it, read it, if you like it, email Grayson, both your senators and your rep. Tell them you want it debated and voted on NOW (don't let them table it), you expect their support, and you are willing to vote them out if you don't get it.

It's really our only hope. Because it is a new bill, it won't go through reconciliation. We can force this thing if we do it right. Email everyone you know and ask them to do the same.

Don't know emails or who reps you? goto http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/

Make sure, if you like PO, to post it online with links.
04:55 PM on 03/16/2010
Contrary to popular beliefs change is not always good!!
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05:44 PM on 03/16/2010
Yes we've done so well under the status quo haven't we?
08:48 AM on 03/17/2010
We have the best cancer survival rates in the world. We have developed most of the new medicines and proceedures.

That is doing well.
06:35 PM on 03/16/2010
Well we know conservatives live in complete fear of it.
08:50 AM on 03/17/2010
Clinton changed the banking rules to allow the no down mortgages. That change lead to the housing collapse.

Not all change is good.
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Is hemp legal yet?
04:50 PM on 03/16/2010
NANCY PELOSI "BUSH MADE ME BLINK WE MUST FUND THE IRAQ SURGE!!"
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04:34 PM on 03/16/2010
ONLY IN AMERICA, WHERE SUPREME POWER IS CONSTITUTIONALLY VESTED IN THE STATE MILITIAS, IS EXECUTIVE AND CONGRESSIONAL TYRANNY A LEGAL BASIS FOR POPULAR FASCIST REBELLION.
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Very soon we would both be completely twisted...
05:07 PM on 03/16/2010
are you stupid or something?
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05:46 PM on 03/16/2010
You must be a teabagger. One can tell by the maniacal senselessness of your ranting.