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Dennis Kucinich Flips On Health Care Reform: Will Support The Bill

First Posted: 05/17/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:50 PM ET

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After an intense White House lobbying effort, Dennis Kucinich announced on Wednesday morning that he has decided to vote for health care reform when it comes before the House in the next few days, reversing his previous position and giving a boost to President Obama, congressional leaders and the reform effort.

"In the past week it's become clear that the vote on the final health bill will be very close," Kucinich said at a Capitol Hill news conference. "I take this vote with the utmost seriousness. I'm quite aware of the historic fight, which has lasted the last century.

"I have doubts about the bill. This is not the bill I wanted to support," Kucinich said even as he promised that he would vote "yes" on the proposal.

"If my vote is to be counted, let it count now for passage of the bill, hopefully in the direction of comprehensive health care reform," the Ohio Democrat said.

Kucinich explained his decision in the following terms: He fought to make the bill better as long as he could. The bill is now written and the decision is not whether it's the bill he'd want but whether it is better to support it as it is or oppose it. If this health care reform effort failed, just as Clinton's effort failed a decade and a half ago, it would make future attempts at reforming the system that much more difficult. "This is a defining moment for whether or not we'll have any opportunity to move off square one on the issue of health care. And so even though I don't like the bill, I've made a decision to support it in the hopes that we can move towards a more comprehensive approach once this legislation is done," he said.

A health care failure could destroy any transformative potential left in Obama's administration, he worried.

"We have to be very careful that the potential of President Obama's presidency not be destroyed by this debate. And I feel, even though I have many differences with him on policy, there's something much bigger at stake here for America," he said.

"If we stay riveted on this health care debate and don't get out of it at all, we've actually created a kind of a prison here of our own making. And so I don't want to be a party to that. I've taken the debate as far--farther than anybody else who opposed this bill and who has held the positions that I've held about single payer."

Kucinich was asked repeatedly whether he got any specific deal or assurances from Obama. He said he did not, other than the president's commitment to continue to improve the health care system, including issues related to diet, nutrition and well being.

"This wasn't about the kind of deal-making that is essentially self-defeating," said Kucinich. "That's not what my support is all about here. I come at it from a different level, taking a more historic, long-term view, [with the aim to] empower our president and the Congress to start to move the country forward, notwithstanding the differences we have."

Kucinich said his vote should be an indication to other progressives that it is an effort worth getting behind. "Well, if I can vote for this bill, there's not many people who shouldn't be able to support it," he said.

Kucinich had been one of the few remaining holdouts who felt that the bill did not go far enough. A former presidential candidate, he objected that the bill did not include a robust public insurance option tied to Medicare rates and did not include a provision to allow states to enact single-payer legislation if they so chose. His support gives House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) a much-needed vote as she looks for 216 members to move the package through this week.

Kucinich came under intense pressure from liberals, with blogger Markos Moulitsas, the founder of DailyKos, going so far as to suggest he should face a primary challenge if he votes no. House leadership, however, largely considered his vote lost.

Other liberal activists were not nearly as pleased with the congressman's change of heart. Minutes after Kucinich's announcement on Wednesday, a prominent progressive who has petitioned liberals to defeat the bill called on him to return the money he had raised from kill-the-bill supporters.

"Dennis Kucinich signed a pledge to vote against any bill that does not have a public option," FireDogLake's Jane Hamsher emailed the Huffington Post. "Online supporters donated over $17,000 to him over the past two days as a direct response to his reiteration of that promise this week. It would be deceitful of him to keep that money now, as well as the $8,000 raised after he signed that pledge in July."

Going even further, Hamsher floated that idea that Kucinich, too, would face electoral repercussions for his decision (though, it should be noted, the deadline for launching a 2010 election bid has already passed in Ohio).

"Kucinich is voting for a bill he has repeatedly called corrupt and harmful to the people of his district," Hamsher said. "If the unions are threatening to go outside the party and challenge Democrats so PhRMA can have their deal, I imagine others will be considering that option too."

On Monday, Obama flew on Air Force One with Kucinich to a health-care rally to the lawmaker's home state of Ohio. During the flight, Obama pressed Kucinich on the merits of the bill. Obama also brought Kucinich to the White House along with other members of Congress, though Kucinich left that meeting indicating he would still oppose the bill.

Obama's ability to sway Kucinich undermines the White House's longstanding position that it couldn't get a public option through Congress because it didn't have the votes. The president, it turns out, does have the ability to sway a member of Congress, even one as committed to a position as Kucinich.

"He's always persuasive," said Rep. Marcia Fudge (D-Ohio), who was also on Air Force One with Kucinich and Obama.

Fudge is also holding out from the liberal end and got a pitch from Obama during the flight, she told HuffPost Tuesday. "Did it change my mind at that point? No. But it gave me some other things to think about, so I'm really glad that we had the conversation."

She said she is still on the fence but appears to be highly likely to support the bill.

"I'm on the fence. Certainly I'm leaning towards passing the bill, obviously, voting for it, because I think that we need reform. I just need to see what is in the bill," she said. "I need to see if, in fact, it does all the things that we've been told it does. I need to see how it's going to affect states, how it's going to affect people who work every day. How is it going to affect their premiums going forward? There are just some things I need to see. But I am certainly for reform. I just need to see if this is the bill that I can support to do it."

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UPDATE: A Kucinich spokesman tells HuffPost that Kucinich will return any money donated to him under the assumption that he would oppose the health care bill for not including a public option, confirming this post. The amount is between $15,000 and $20,000.

Sam Stein contributed reporting to this post.

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suec03 03:29 PM on 03/17/2010
Sorry, Jane Hamsher. I think Dennis Kucinich did the right thing. He held out as long as he could, but we no longer have 60 nominal Democrats and independents in the Senate, and we will likely drop further below 59 in November. Until the filibuster rule in the Senate is changed or scrapped, passing the Senate bill with a House sidecar to be passed under reconciliation by the Senate is the best we can do  Read More...
09:55 PM on 03/20/2010
the health bill gives billions from Medicare
to the private insurance. this isn't a step in direction
. And we won't be able
to stop this very easily because the bill sets
up IPAB, an unelected board to cut Medicare
when its growth exceeds a target. This target
is set fairly low, midway between regular inflation
and inflation in private sector insurance, at first,
Then it gets lower. Congress can only overturn by
a two thirds vote. THIS TAKES $ AWAY FROM
MEDICARE and the governement will continue
to fork it over to private insurance.
Can we ask Dennis to change his mind?
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05:13 AM on 03/20/2010
Kucinich changed his mind because Obama agreed to take another look Kucinich's proposals for the public option, after this 'phase' of HCR passes. this has been widely reported in the news, yet so many of you here are castigating Kucinich for being a 'sell-out'.

why does it have to be 'all or nothing' proposition with some of you? it has taken 70 years or so to even get to this point. you think the private health insurance industry is going down without a major fight? no way, and Kucinich finally got it. the PO is coming, Kucinich even hinted as much to the media, that he intends to keep pushing for a public option.

patience people, there was more to Kucinich's meeting with Obama on AF1 than meets the eye. and remember Obama also wanted the PO... until the insurance lobby got it eviscerated from the HCR bill.

just keep the pressure on Kucinich for the 'public option phase' of HCR, after this one passes.
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Easyrollins
09:00 AM on 03/19/2010
The Republicans are trying to even capitalize on the fact that the public option is not part of this bill, Still doggedly adhering to lies and distortions to hide the fact that they are losing and want nothing more than to advance any discord the can within the democratic ranks they can. Now with health going pass, they have thrown their lot to the future, and the Nov. elections, hoping to further disrupt and distort by lying until then. Their lie long , lie hard form of politics is getting worn, and starting to sound shrill and desperate.
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jspkim
06:25 PM on 03/18/2010
Time for a national referendum on this single issue.

1. Obamacare

1. Do nothing.

3. Medicare for all

I don't know how the constitution stands on this.

But we need direct inputs from the voters.
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SunshineDaydream
10:17 PM on 03/18/2010
aren't elections supposed to be our way of directly.....inputting?
12:17 PM on 03/26/2010
I agree jspkim. The problem isn't that people don't know what they want (polls routinely show, and have shown for some time, that a substantial majority of Americans want something like single-payer). The problem is that there is a huge disconnect between people's wants and the processes that create legislation. People absolutely do not get to vote on questions like "should we have single payer or not".

I've posted on this topic quite a bit at http://pink-scare.blogspot.com/

The only reason progressive people continue to support Dems is because they believe they have nowhere else to go. But this isn't so. Look around: there are grassroots struggles all over the country that are fighting against the education cuts and public transportation cuts imposed by Democrats. There are fights being waged against Obama's union-busting approach to teachers unions and education. There is a movement on the ground that coalesced around the fight against Prop 8 that is organizing more people every day. There is a swelling immigrant rights movement that is pickup up steam once again. None of these struggles have anything to do with pandering to the Democrats or placing blind faith in their leaders. These struggles are DEMANDING that real changes be implemented. And this is what the Left needs to do right now: organize independently of the Democrats and create the conditions for demanding the changes we all want to see.
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fromdnorth
OK I checked my micro-bio (didn't know I had one
04:37 PM on 03/18/2010
Dennis Kucinich knows more than many:

"Politics is the art of the possible..."
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05:11 AM on 03/20/2010
exactly. all the HuffPosters on here are failing to read b/w the lines. there is a 'deal' in the works b/w Obama and Kucinich. the public option will not be in THIS bill... but it's coming.
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jspkim
04:20 PM on 03/18/2010
"Change we can believe in " has turned out to be more boons to the Corporate America.
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Easyrollins
04:58 PM on 03/18/2010
Really? when you can read, get the bill. until then stop listening to Fox News
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jspkim
05:38 PM on 03/18/2010
I listen to Democracy Now, never to Fox news.

So what do u listen to? more of MSM?
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SunshineDaydream
02:19 PM on 03/18/2010
^^"This is a defining moment for whether or not we'll have any opportunity to move off square one on the issue of health care. And so even though I don't like the bill, I've made a decision to support it in the hopes that we can move towards a more comprehensive approach once this legislation is done," he said.
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MalleusMaleficarum
Global nomad.
02:09 PM on 03/18/2010
When the bill passes - Dennis will be the hero. Then, he will launch his next bill - Single-Payer. Brilliant move!
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jspkim
04:23 PM on 03/18/2010
Yeah, he will be a hero of private health care insurers.
01:23 PM on 03/18/2010
Even Dennis Kucinich turns out to be a sellout.
What a despicable action to take.
Openly acting in direct opposition to his stated beliefs.
Does this guy understand that he has just destroyed any moral authority he had?
Does he understand that his integrity was THE ONLY THING HE HAD?

What a dummy.
12:57 PM on 03/18/2010
Don´t vote for any sitting Democrat or Republican! Both parties in the duopoly are a sham! Vote independent, progressive and social democrat!
01:42 PM on 03/18/2010
YES!!!!!

But be prepared to be blamed for any Dem loss if you do, because you know apparently Dems think we OWE them a vote, rather than them trying to earn it.
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SunshineDaydream
02:18 PM on 03/18/2010
and what if that isn't an option?
12:38 PM on 03/18/2010
Of course he flipped, he wants to be re-elected. Kucinich long ago lost the right to be taken seriously. He's a publicity hound and was grandstanding the issue only long enough to turn cameras in his direction: now that he's had his 15 minutes of fame vis-a-vis health care reform, he's back in the fold.
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jmpurser
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12:24 PM on 03/18/2010
Can we finally bury the Democratic party as the party of the "Left"? They got rid of most of the "Lite" from their nickname of "GOP Lite" in the Clinton years. Under Obama they are the pure corporatist party. Even Kucinich finally got absorbed.

Just another party for the maintenance of the status quo, the preservation of wealth for the wealthy, and one stop shopping for corporate America.

It's past time for the Left to pack up and go. Voting for a Democrat is throwing your vote, and your nation, away.
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Easyrollins
04:10 PM on 03/18/2010
When the republican party has been buried beneath it
11:58 AM on 03/18/2010
Great Dennis. You can always change a bill that has been passed but you will be able to do nothing if it doesn't pass. Just hear the Republicans say they won when they did absolutely nothing for the 40,000 Americans who will die because they don't have health insurance while the insurance companies are laughing all the way to the bank. Just say you want money for the Iraq war and the Iraqi people and the Republicans will sign on to the bill without blinking an eye just like they did for George Bush. They don't show any compassion for the American people who are hurting through no fault of their own. One day they will have to answer for that.
11:45 AM on 03/18/2010
You tried, Big K.
You're still a true progressive in MY book!