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Social Immobility: Climbing The Economic Ladder Is Harder In The U.S. Than In Most European Countries

First Posted: 09/21/10 08:30 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:50 PM ET

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Is America the "land of opportunity"? Not so much.

A new report from the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD) finds that social mobility between generations is dramatically lower in the U.S. than in many other developed countries.

So if you want your children to climb the socioeconomic ladder higher than you did, move to Canada.

The report finds the U.S. ranking well below Denmark, Australia, Norway, Finland, Canada, Sweden, Germany and Spain in terms of how freely citizens move up or down the social ladder. Only in Italy and Great Britain is the intensity of the relationship between individual and parental earnings even greater.

For instance, according to the OECD, 47 percent of the economic advantage that high-earning fathers in the United States have over low-earning fathers is transmitted to their sons, compare to, say, 17 percent in Australia and 19 percent in Canada.

Recent economic events may be increasing social mobility in the U.S. -- but only of the downward variety. Harvard Professor Elizabeth Warren, for example, argues that America's middle class had been eroding for 30 years even before the massive blows caused by the financial crisis. And with unemployment currently at astronomical levels, if there are no jobs for young people leaving school, the result could be long-term underemployment and, effectively, a lost generation.

According to the OECD report, the main cause of social immobility is educational opportunity. It turns out that America's public school system, rather than lifting children up, is instead holding them down.

One particularly effective way governments can help children from disadvantaged backgrounds improve their prospects, according to the report, is to increase the social mix within schools. Doing so "appears to boost performance of disadvantaged students without any apparent negative effects on overall performance." Early childhood education also helps a lot.

Another big factor in social mobility is inequality, the report finds. The greater a nation's inequality, the harder it is for its children to improve their lot.

That confirms findings by other researchers. "The way I usually put this is that when the rungs of the ladder are far apart, it becomes more difficult to climb the ladder," Brookings Institution economist Isabel Sawhill tells HuffPost. "Given that we have more inequality in the U.S. right now than at any time since the 1920s, we should be concerned that this may become a vicious cycle. Inequality in one generation may mean less opportunity for the next generation to get ahead and thus still more inequality in the future."

There are things governments can do to reduce inequality, the OECD points out. Progressive tax systems and social programs help reduce income inequalities between parents "so that their descendants' income would converge more quickly."

Perhaps more realistically for this country, given the current political climate, higher short-term unemployment benefits can reduce the effect of socioeconomic background on student achievement, the reports says.

Gary Orfield, co-director of the Civil Rights Project/Proyecto Derechos Civiles at UCLA writes in an e-mail to HuffPost: "I think that researchers know about the poor mobility and millions of people are experiencing it -- but it is little discussed in a society in which both parties purport to represent the 'middle class' and no one is talking about the locked-in poor or the risk of downward mobility in public life."

As for the report's conclusions about the value of social mixing in schools, Orfield, a long time foe of school segregation, notes: "There has been such a relentless conservative attack on desegregation strategies, even those focusing on class,... that I think there has been very little discussion of peer group effects (except in college) for a long time. During that void, however, the research evidence has become much more powerful.

"People need to understand that schools are basically students and teachers interacting together and that if you have classmates who know very little, you won't learn from them, you may be distracted by them. And teachers teaching entire classes and schools with students who are not ready to learn at their grade level and require all kinds of individual tutoring will often leave as soon [as] they can so these schools get the least experienced and qualified teachers, which perpetuates the inequality."

Just last month, Orfield's center issued a report urging President Obama, a supporter of charter schools, to take into account the extreme segregation of black students in those schools and to devise policies that encourage diversity.

All in all, the OECD report is an ugly reality check for a country that has historically seen itself as uniquely rewarding of talent; as a place free of the sorts of rigid social structures that led so many generations of immigrants to leave Old Europe.

And the goal of reducing barriers to social mobility isn't just a moral imperative, it's an economic necessity, the OECD notes. "First, less mobile societies are more likely to waste or misallocate human skills and talents. Second, lack of equal opportunity may affect the motivation, effort and, ultimately, the productivity of citizens, with adverse effects on the overall efficiency and the growth potential of the economy."

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Is America the "land of opportunity"? Not so much. A new report from the Organization for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD) finds that social mobility between generations is dramatically l...
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Robson
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12:19 AM on 03/19/2010
From the article: "For instance, according to the OECD, 47 percent of the economic advantage that high-earning fathers in the United States have over low-earning fathers is transmitted to their sons, compare to, say, 17 percent in Australia and 19 percent in Canada."

Well this should prove it ......repeal of the estate tax would be a real boon to the USA. We could increase that 47% to 90% so that the silver spoon would no longer just be a figure of speech but a fact. We would then have a locked in caste system instead of almost locked in, and exactly the opposite from what the founding fathers wanted.

No longer would insignificant things such as motivation, education, ability, matter in improving ones chances of climbing the economic ladder. It would be all based upon winning the parent lottery and being handed down a huge pot full of money to dabble with.
04:10 PM on 03/25/2010
And the goal of reducing barriers to social mobility isn't just a moral imperative, it's an economic necessity, the OECD notes. "First, less mobile societies are more likely to waste or misallocate human skills and talents.

Excuse me? "missallocate human skills and talents'

Since when was it a democratic governments responsibility to allocate skills and talents?

You people cannot hide any longer. You are not moderates seeking small "social" changes to our society.

You are undercover Marxists and your shroud of lies is being exposed.

Much like the illegal immigrants you have been hiding "in the shadows".
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08:50 PM on 05/11/2010
The most interesting factor in this report for me are the regional differences. Among urban industrial states, Republican run conservative states have higher social mobility. The areas with the lowest social mobility are downtown urban areas and east coast states with more liberal leadership. The Social Mobility in Delaware, Maryland, DC, Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida is about at European levels. Black people in the low mobility urban areas are really what drag down social mobility in the US (note: not black people as a whole, the children of well educated black people who do not live in Ghettos have about equal social mobility to white people).

I think the lesson here is pretty clear, but it's a pill Democrats don't want to swallow. Fix the disastrous urban education system. Urban schools need strict discipline and you need to get the gang culture 100% out. We KNOW what works already - KIPP is a shining example. School choice also shows results. But school uniforms, taking on teachers unions, Democrats have no appetite for this. Instead you have shameful disasters like the New York "rubber room" where students suffer at the hands of very poor teachers - meanwhile, good teachers are not rewarded and even worse, are hounded by MORE ADMINISTRATORS per teacher than any other school system on the face of the planet. But school administrators are part of the teachers union as well, and woe is thee who dares question their value.
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11:28 AM on 03/18/2010
To really understand how this happened both financialy AND socially you need to watch this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1087742888040457650#

It is well worth the time to watch! Highly recommend!
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11:53 AM on 03/18/2010
That was the second in the series. I liked the first one that detailed how the Rand Corporation's studies became the basis for the Reagan/Thatcher revolutions and were then found to be complete frauds.
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02:50 PM on 03/18/2010
The entire series is awesome, but I love the two kinds of freedom discussion. Too many people recognize that liberals and conservatives are both claiming to want freedom they just don't recognize that they are talking about two different types of freedom. And I personally don't think they are incompatible.
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blueken
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09:57 AM on 03/18/2010
Look at the countries that have the best upward mobility. What do they all have in common? Universal single payer health care. France, England and Germany have a higher percentage of self employed than the United States of free enterprise. Now take a look at Wall Street. Wall Street employees earn 28% of wages paid in New York city, but represent only 2% of the working people of the city. Sound a little like France in the early 1700's? I love this country, it is where I was born, and where I hope to die, but it is time to take off the big foam "We're #1" finger and start looking around the world at what works and what doesn't. Haiti has no functioning government, Chile has a strong central government. Both had earthquakes, Chile's was more intense. Haiti had a death toll in the 10's of thousands and climbing. It will take Haiti a decade to climb back to the less than stellar condition it was in before the earthquake. Chile had deaths in the hundreds and will rebound in a few years. We don't need smaller government, we need better government. Time to stop listening to election slogans and start looking for real soloutions.
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UnknownSolider
10:27 AM on 03/18/2010
Co-Sign

although this story has nothing to do with earthquakes, I do get your point

ACCESS is the key to this report.......... they are showing the glaring effect that a lack of ACCESS to the rungs of economic mobility is having on our economy............

The Baby Boomers have screwed the country up, and its going to be up to the latter generation to clean up the mess
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blueken
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01:31 PM on 03/18/2010
A big part of the reason the rungs are getting further apart is our dependance on corporations for health insurance. A big reason we don't have universal health care is a lot of people in this country are anti-government. I bring up the contrast between Haiti and Chile as an example of how a weak government compares ot a strong government. It is hard to grab for that next rung on the ladder when you are beholding to your employer for heatlh care. You can blame the Boomers for this, we get blamed for everything.
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jmpurser
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11:54 AM on 03/18/2010
Well if you compare us to ANY developed nation you quickly find we're alone on health care. Not saying that it's irrelevant to this issue, just that this one area of our suicidal stupidity probably isn't responsible for ALL our ills.
09:37 AM on 03/18/2010
Flood of cheap foreign goods + high US unemployment= zero job growth in US
Look for double digit unemployment for the next decade
Quess where those expensive Jordache jeans come from? Same factory that makes goods for WalMart/Target are making the goods for Macys/Bloomingdales. Stupid American consumers.
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blueken
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10:01 AM on 03/18/2010
Don't forget the wheat, rice, sugar, beef, chicken, portk and corn that we export around the world at subsidized prices. We are not innocent. We start restricting the cheap manufactured goods from other countries, and they will restrict the cheap food we send over there. The United States poduces 1/3 of the world's food. Most of it is subsidized.
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UnknownSolider
10:28 AM on 03/18/2010
yes, and our over production of food is having an impact on the enviornment, maybe its time to end those subsidies, and start consuming less
09:10 AM on 03/18/2010
Back at the turn of the last century, Japan inaugurated an experiment called the Meiji restoration, realizing the mistakes of the previous centuries of isolation had put them on a course that dimished their chances of success in rapidly changing world. Japan went about choosing its brightest and ablest youngsters to study abroad and return hom with the knowledge that would allow the Japanese nation to compete with the West. Plenty can be said about how elements of this plan were perverted by Japanese militarists and chauvanists that eventually culminated in the tragedies of WWII, but that's for another blog. Without expanding or reinforcing the loonier elements of our own Empire ambitions, I propose that the United States embark on its own Meiji Restoration. That we select or ask for volunteers of some of our brightest youngsters so as to send them abroad to study societies and cultures that are now out-performing our own. We will have to develope the discipline and open minds to trust these young adventurers upon their return, just as the Japanese did so long ago, and create places for them in institutions that direct our economy and how we educate and otherwise defend and take care of one another. If we continue on the path we are on today, we'll wake up some morning with our swords firmly attached at the waist and precious little else to compete with. It is a work program I could support without reservation.
10:23 AM on 03/18/2010
Sounds like a good idea. It's not going to happen when the people are told they are the richest, most powerful country in the world.
10:36 AM on 03/18/2010
I wish I had something at hand to reassure you. Actually you surprised me - I was expecting an America First rant to be the "first" to make it onto the string. Let us see how many of our fellow citizens wish us to join the Tokugawa Shogunate in the dust bin of history . . . . .
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MarsAmbassador
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08:48 AM on 03/18/2010
I always laugh when Republicans go on about how they don't want the US to turn into Western Europe. And yet they have better economic mobility, FAR better health care, higher 'happiness' ratings, more concern for their environment, higher education and rank higher than us on almost every tangible aspect of a society that can be measured. I spent this summer in Germany and when I came back here, I felt like I traveled back in time 10-15 years. It's far cleaner over there and much more technologically advanced. The only people in the US that live better than the average Western European are the rich. Everyone else is being sold a line and convinced to vote against their own self interests like a carrot on a stick, sold a bill of sale for the mere HOPE of a life they'll never have.
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blueken
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10:04 AM on 03/18/2010
The Euro entered the market at .70, it is now at $1.40. That should tell you something. Can't say I think much of European bathrooms though. Yuck.
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MarsAmbassador
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12:43 PM on 03/18/2010
Really? Every single bathroom I went into over there had an attendant who was constantly cleaning and many of the bathrooms had full shower services, which as a backpacker, was a godsend. I sure didn't mind paying my 20 cents or whatever it cost to use these bathrooms, either. FAR cleaner, larger, brighter and more advanced than any single washroom I have ever been into in the United States.
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ThatsTheTheWayItIs
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08:33 AM on 03/18/2010
The more educated workers we have, the less educated workers will be paid.

Simple supply and demand.

The loss of economic mobility in the US is not due to lack of education.
Americans are better educated than they were 30 years ago, yet median wages are lower.

Corporations are always telling us, go to college if you want a good job. It works for them: they don't have to train people, and with a surplus of educated labor they don't have to pay a decent wage. Best of all, people have to borrow money from corporations to afford college, then then pay interest to the rich investors. They live off corporate profit made by the workers, and off interest from college debt. Sweet deal.

Education in the US is a corporate sham, as is the economy as a whole. The US is one big company town.
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09:37 AM on 03/18/2010
It is obvious to a keen casual observer that the higher educational system here in the US is a complete scam. Economic success here has nothing to do with hard work, motivation and commitment. The people in control who happen not to be minorities have determined beforehand who will occupy the chair. They have to keep selling the line that all things are equal in order to keep the scam going and keep minorities from dismantling the money making system. It sort of reminds me of the scam evangelists sell their flocks. They lay down a set of social norms and mores (behavior) to follow for the sole purpose of controlling the person, because if you can control the person you control their meager resources. Of course you have to keep believing in the hocus pocus.
10:54 AM on 03/18/2010
Like some posters before me, I'm suspicious of your assertion that we are better educated than 30 years ago. Maybe differently educated?
Enough of that - your post contains some intriguing Ideas. My first response about corporations getting fully trained staff, from college grads, is not entirely true. I've had a lot of people under my employ in the past and I'll take one fully (in-house) trained staff member over a college grad any day of the week. Other than that - you're correct - in that I'm willing to pay the in-house employee more money than the grad, pushing the grad out onto the street to lower the wages of his fellows.
Europe, with some remnants of its old guild systems and now trade unions typically has a method of aptitude tests administered throughout a person's education. Without there being any special stigma attached, a youngster gets directed toward a skilled trade or art - vocational training - a acquires the basis for a decent occupation that is furthered honed in the workshop, in manufacturing, kitchens, etc. In France, only the kids that can pass a final round of ferocious entrance exams go to university. Government funds both forms of education, so the young proceed to whatever career they make for themselves without debt loads.
12:14 PM on 03/18/2010
You are well informed about the European education system. One of the reasons kids get tested is that we need university educated people, however, we also need well trained tradesmen. And you are correct, the Government funds both systems of education (as it should).Do you know how much a professional plumber or electician makes? And those jobs can't be outsourced.
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Mike Sprinkel
08:10 AM on 03/18/2010
I attended public school my whole life. All of the schools bussed in kids from the poor parts of town, so I'm familiar with the experiment of which this article speaks. Here's the rub, though: the poor kids were put into different classes, and indeed, were eventually put in a different building. This was accomplished via the "honors classes" system in the middle school and the "AP classes" system at the high school level. All in all, the whole thing was a complete waste of time and resources.

It makes more sense to implement a sort of voucher program where poor kids that show a degree of intellectual rigor may be permitted to go to a school commensurate with their ability. Just placing them in the same immediate geographic proximity is completely illogical.
11:01 AM on 03/18/2010
I witnessed pretty much the same results in my high school, as well. I also know that by high school, the battle has been fought and lost. I'm fond of quoting some Jesuit doggerel that I pick up somewhere: "Give me a child between the ages of three and seven and he'll be mine forever".
The deprivations that blight a youngster's prospects can begin as early as the womb. There's is no substitution for good prenatal care. It can be a downhill slide from there and by the time some of these populations are put together in a high school, they may as well be from foreign lands.
06:24 AM on 03/18/2010
babylon... falleth
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jjkmack
08:44 AM on 03/18/2010
Agreed, it's been happening slowly, slowly, almost imperceptibly slow until the rude awakening, now it's too late!

Well, all empires, like all things in life follow a cycle. The US military empire peaked in the 1970s, and has been slowly declining ever since.
GSR
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06:22 AM on 03/18/2010
PART 1

America's belief that it is exceptional is retarding the country. Paradoxically I, as a left wing Australian, actually want America to be exceptional. I want the land of Whitman, Lincoln, Sagan, Williams, Parks, Jefferson, Albee, Gates, Jobs, Pollock, MLK, FLW, Bernstein and Springsteen to remain the predominant world power –with changes.

For those who would howl me down, just spend a little time imagining how any vacuum left by the US might be filled and by what. 


8 years of bad government ended in catastrophe for the US but the problems were clear and the remedies at hand so nobody celebrating in Grant Park on that chilly November Chicago night thought for a second that those remedies would not be applied by the new majorities in both houses.


Well over one year later, not only have the remedies not been applied, government has gone into hiding. America, more than ever, runs on fear.
GSR
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06:23 AM on 03/18/2010
PART 2

The monolithic right has convinced the highly vulnerable to vote for increased vulnerability, and the Democratic congressional members are more scared that their PAC's will get squeezed by corporations than they are of getting primaried. And despite all this, most of the governing and media class believe that America is the god bestowed ne plus ultra of civilization with nothing to learn other than that which its founding fathers had decreed. 


The truth is the US is paralyzed by blindness and fear-bourn inertia and is too scared to govern its way out of this mess. 
In Australia we don't have the religious right, FNC, GOP etc telling us that government is the problem. The people have harnessed the government to improve society-to narrow the opportunity gap, to have good inexpensive universities, and good minimum wages and universal health care. Every one votes here and nobody thinks they need to arm themselves against their government. 
I don't know how the US can fix itself but we are sincerely rooting for you. We need you to succeed.
07:57 AM on 03/18/2010
You are certainly right about arrogance. It gets in the way of rational thinking, like a horse with blinders on. There are too many people in the United States who think it is patriotic to be stupid.
08:30 AM on 03/18/2010
Great post. I moved to Louisiana 14 years ago from the SF Bay area after the earthquake. To my disbelief, David Duke, the KKK leader was running for governor. I went to his rally in my town to see for myself. While everyone was polite to me, I witnessed first hand how fear and ignorance gets people to believe and vote against their own interests long term. After an hour, I made a very tense exit. There is so much that can be done in America now to turn our economy around and we are motionless, repeating the same mistakes over and over. Years ago Europe got out of the military economy rat race and invested in people. The american dream is something you experience if your are asleep. The american dream is alive and well in Finland.
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05:42 AM on 03/18/2010
Having lived worked and been sick in Paris, London, Dublin, and Los Angeles, I can state unequivocally that our health care system is backward, corrupt, and inefficient. If the GOP has its culturally arrogant way this will only get worse.
It's disingenuous at best to tout America as a land of opportunity and innovation while demonizing progressives and dismissing what works in other societies. If conservatives honestly put their country before their personal interests they'd be conserving something more important than the status quo.
05:37 AM on 03/18/2010
Recently I watched a documentary about Detroit on the BBC, the sight of all those empty and abandoned buildings made me sad, the despair of the people was something incredible to someone living in The Netherlands like me. It is very depressing to see and read everything about the US that is not going well, America is a great country and I love the people there, I hope that they will get better and improve themselves. It will be hard, but Americans are capable of everything, I still believe that.
In Europe things are certainly not perfect, and we have also a lot of problems and issues, but we do understand that things like health-care, transportation and maintenance are worth the taxes we pay (and we pay a lot of tax!).
09:19 AM on 03/18/2010
Europe does not have the vast uneducated underclass that the US has. It is a mix of inner-city criminals and rural rednecks and suburban brats, all of whom are becoming rancidly stupider with every passing year. Meanwhile, the corrupt media continues to feed them junk food 24 hours a day.
05:13 AM on 03/18/2010
What is the gag? (I'm sure someone else has already posted it) "I stopped trying to live the American dream when I learned I'd need to move to France."
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04:50 AM on 03/18/2010
I'm a college students who has lived in a upper middle class suburban bubble my entire life. I can attest to the fact that public education in this country is indeed shockingly uneven. Even within the same county, it was incredible how school districts serving suburban populations were so much better funded and administered than school districts serving urban populations less than 20-30 miles away. Some of our schools topped Newsweek's Best High Schools in America list, while some of the nearby urban-area schools were just placed on the state's worst performing school's list. Nothing will change unless we can ensure that living in a poorer area does not automatically means receiving a poorer-quality education.
10:09 AM on 03/18/2010
You're absolutely wrong about the funding component. Inner city schools spend more per pupil than the national average yet achieve poor results. The problem has little to do with funding and more to do with the local and familial culture of those students.
04:20 AM on 03/18/2010
One of your problems is an irrational approach to what the bearing idea of a wellfare system is.
First: people who are healthy and secure of their living are better workers.
Second: Doing away with hopeless poverty makes a more secure society. Proof for that; the incarnation rate in the USA is in the vicinity of 800 pr 100.000 citizens. In the EU-countries it is from 60-100 pr. 100.000 citizens.
Third: making education on all levels free or almost free secures a broader recruioting of talents. That gives better productivity and scientific progress. proof, in 1994 North America and Euroope was neck to neck in scientific publication. Today Eürope has taking the lead with 34% of world total compared to 26% from North America. The brain drain to the USA has ended.
Fourth: reasonable workíng hours 35-40 hours for a liveable salary and vacations 4-6 weeks. secures more time with your family giving them a better start.
Fifth: Welfare states are competitive. That is why the EU don't have a deficit on foreign trade.
So get going. the models are there for the take.
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09:51 AM on 03/18/2010
incarceration rate
02:12 PM on 03/18/2010
Thanks for the correction. English is not my mother tounge.