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CBO Score On Health Care Bill Released: Boosts Democrats' Hopes Of Passing Reform

First Posted: 05/18/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:50 PM ET

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Comprehensive health care reform will cost the federal government $940 billion over a ten-year period, but will increase revenue and cut other costs by a greater amount, leading to a reduction of $138 billion in the federal deficit over the same period, according to an analysis by the Congressional Budget Office, a Democratic source tells HuffPost. It will cut the deficit by $1.2 trillion over the second ten year period.

The source said it also extends Medicare's solvency by at least nine years and reduces the rate of its growth by 1.4 percent, while closing the doughnut hole for seniors, meaning there will no longer be a gap in coverage of medication. The CBO also estimated it would extend coverage to 32 million additional people.

The CBO score is the last piece House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was waiting on before putting the puzzle together on the House floor. A contingent of Blue Dogs has been holding out support, insisting that the bill be fully paid for and not increase the deficit. The numbers give a major boost to Pelosi and her leadership team, which can now begin the whip count in earnest and can specifically point to the cost savings.

With the CBO score released, the Democratic whip team has a specific, thoroughly-analyzed bill to show to undeclared members who can no longer claim they are "waiting to see the language." Pelosi has very little room for error and needs to move nearly every undecided voter to a solid "yes."

Since the House last passed legislation in November, three Democrats who opposed it -- John Tanner and Bart Gordon of Tennessee and Brian Baird of Washington -- have announced their retirements, relieving them of some political pressure to oppose the bill. Pelosi may end up drawing on those exiting members for a cushion of support.

The reconciliation package that the CBO analyzed makes slight changes to the underlying bill. Subsidies for the uninsured to purchase insurance are increased and more funding is dedicated to community health centers. The excise tax on insurance premiums is scaled back so that it hits few families. The bill also demands a higher commitment from drugmakers, aiming to close the so-called "doughnut hole" -- the time that seniors must pay full price for medication. The pharmaceutical lobby has signed off on the increased commitment and will be running ads in Democratic districts in support of reform.

The reconciliation package, because of budget rules that limit its policy scope, does not deal with two contentious social issues: abortion or immigration. Anti-choice Democrats are threatening to kill the entire project over the abortion language in the Senate bill and Congressional Hispanic Caucus members are rebelling because of its draconian immigration provisions. The Senate language bars federal funds from paying for abortion, but doesn't go far enough, according to some Democrats. Undocumented workers would be barred from purchasing insurance -- even with their own money -- from private companies which operate within exchanges set up by reform.

The reconciliation package is headed for a Rules Committee vote on Thursday with a vote in the full House to follow. But before the House votes, it will require the commitment of 50-plus members of the Senate to agree to pass the identical bill. A Democratic Senator told HuffPost Tuesday night that Senate leadership had yet to begin whipping support for the bill because the language hadn't been finalized. Now it's been finalized.

The reform effort was jolted forward Wednesday morning, when Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), who was a firm no as of last week, announced that he would back the bill.

"This is a defining moment for whether or not we'll have any opportunity to move off square one on the issue of health care. And so even though I don't like the bill, I've made a decision to support it in the hopes that we can move towards a more comprehensive approach once this legislation is done," he said. "If I can vote for this bill, there's not many people who shouldn't be able to support it."

Anti-choice Democrats have begun to back away from their certain opposition over the last several days. Rep. Jim Oberstar (D-Minn.) has pledged to back the bill and Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio), who opposes abortion rights, said on Tuesday evening that she is still considering voting for it. "That is one of the factors," she said of the Senate's abortion restrictions. "It is not the only factor."

It's not clear, though, what Kaptur's concern is. At one point Tuesday, she said that she didn't like the Senate language because it went too far beyond existing restrictions on federal funding of abortion. "The abortion issue is an issue for me in that I don't want to go beyond existing law," she said. "I view what was done in the Senate as going beyond existing law."

But at other times, she said that the Senate bill did not adequately ensure that federal money would not be spent on abortion and also cited federally-funded community health centers as a potential way such money could pay for abortions. HuffPost pointed out to her that such centers do not perform abortions. "Read the language," she insisted.

HuffPost asked Kaptur what the difference is between a federal subsidy of a private COBRA health care plan that covers abortion and a federal subsidy of a private plan under the proposed health care reform. In both cases, a consumer uses a mix of personal and federal money to purchase a private plan.

"Those are private choices [made by COBRA consumers] and the private plans that are out there, for instance federal health plans that we have: We've handled that separately. They can purchase it separately. They can purchase it separately. Keep the line as firm in the sand as you can and that makes me more comfortable," she said.

HuffPost noted that Kaptur had essentially just described the provisions of the Senate bill, which requires consumers to write separate, personal checks for abortion coverage. "I don't think what I've read in the Senate language is that," she said.

Kaptur, a social liberal, has a number of other concerns she said, including the absence of a public option. "When you take out the public option, when you take out the ability to negotiate prescription drugs, when you take out McCarran-Ferguson, when you take out the provision that I authored in the House in Title I to create regional, not-for-profit purchasing pools, where you can have hundreds of thousands of people aggregate and negotiate together on behalf of whatever their insurance plans are, you take the guts of that out."



UPDATE: The CBO score is here.

FULL TEXT OF THE BILL HERE: 111_hr4872_amndsub

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Comprehensive health care reform will cost the federal government $940 billion over a ten-year period, but will increase revenue and cut other costs by a greater amount, leading to a reduction of $138...
Comprehensive health care reform will cost the federal government $940 billion over a ten-year period, but will increase revenue and cut other costs by a greater amount, leading to a reduction of $138...
 
 
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Ralph Boyd
Look, . . right behind you!
11:55 AM on 04/15/2010
We're paying less and getting more.
10:45 AM on 03/20/2010
Woops so much for defecate neutral Now the CBO's crystal ball says it's going to add to the debt.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Medicare-fix-would-push-apf-2700343586.html?x=0&.v=2
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jagrmeister721
Independent; I critique all
09:09 AM on 03/20/2010
I find this all very comical.

Lavish praise all around for the CBO estimating the healthcare reform bill will reduce the debt . What's amusing is this was accomplished with a procedural sleight of hand. Costly measures were separated into four other bills - such as doc fix (reinstating doctor's fees related to Medicare) that will be passed individually so as to make the primary health care reform bill seem budget neutral. These bills will pass the same way the reform bill passed, and will expand the deficit. But the people hardly pay attention to this gaming of the system. The people will cheer their own decision-making all the way to the poorhouse. Don't get me wrong- we can reform the health care system but lets do so being honest that there will be a cost. The fact that we honestly believe we can dramatically expand health care coverage AND reduce the debt at the same time is such a joke, it makes me question democracy as a serious political system. The degree of ease to confuse and fool the people is staggering.
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Papa Swamp
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10:20 AM on 03/20/2010
It doesn't reduce the debt...just the deficit (over 10 yrs). The debt will continue to grow as noted by both the WH and CBO to approximately $20 Trillion by 2020. I suspect higher since as you noted several provisions have been pealed off separately.

It will be interesting to see the final cost by the time all items are passed. Hopefully someone will request a cost assessment by the CBO of total healthcare costs to federal govt. per year since Health and human services budget already runs at $900 Billion per year.

There will be no money left to even attempt to address the debt.
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jagrmeister721
Independent; I critique all
02:36 PM on 03/20/2010
Just read that the doc fix will be added to the reform bill and now will not only not reduce the deficit (yes, not the debt), but cost upwards of $50B. This is just the beginning in my estimation. - http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=10152324
03:24 AM on 03/20/2010
Hey now. Isn't Doug Elmendorf a special adviser to the President?
01:11 AM on 03/20/2010
Bite that you budget busting Republicans!
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Papa Swamp
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10:25 AM on 03/20/2010
It equates to ~$10 Billion reduction in deficit per year. The government overspent by ~220 BIllion last month alone.

The debt will still reach ~$20 Trillion by 2020. The problem is now there is no money to tackle the debt. The cost to service the debt will begin to rival the cost of healthcare and the country will either have to make massive drastic cuts or default.

Dems should be addressing present budgetary shortfalls instead of adding another burden.
11:11 PM on 03/19/2010
Is a government-dominated health-care system unconstitutional? A strong case can be made for that proposition, based on the same "right to privacy" that underlies such landmark Supreme Court decisions as Roe v. Wade.

The Supreme Court created the right to privacy in the 1960s and used it to strike down a series of state and federal regulations of personal conduct.

The court's underlying rationale was not abortion-specific. Rather, the justices posited a constitutionally mandated zone of personal privacy that must remain free of government regulation, except in the most exceptional circumstances.

It is, of course, difficult to imagine choices more "central to personal dignity and autonomy" than measures to be taken for the prevention and treatment of disease -- measures that may be essential to preserve or extend life itself. Indeed, when the overwhelming moral issues that surround the abortion question are stripped away, what is left is a medical procedure determined to be "necessary" by an expectant mother and her physician.

If the government cannot proscribe -- or even "unduly burden," to use another of the Supreme Court's analytical frameworks -- access to abortion, how can it proscribe access to other medical procedures, including transplants, corrective or restorative surgeries, chemotherapy treatments, or a myriad of other health services that individuals may need or desire?
01:32 AM on 03/20/2010
Why are you trying to confuse everyone here with your logic and reasoned opinion? Don't you know, all you need to pass dangerous legislation is knee-jerk reactionism and emotional appeals? No need for discussion, no need for thoughtful contemplation. Just pass it because our side is for it and the other side is against it. That's all the rationale that is needed.
11:10 PM on 03/19/2010
to resolve this problem , we must find an " america's Premier wen jiabao" to resolve. because we all know , let the united states now for a " president's authotarian " political system , implemented in most other countries around the world is " separate system for presidential primer minister " so in this respect , the united states must be able " and international standards "
01:33 AM on 03/20/2010
Dude, you need a better translator program...
08:29 PM on 03/19/2010
CBO cannot take into account the money saved from preventative care. I know I sound like a broken record but blood pressure pills are cheaper than the cost of stroke care. Colonoscopies are cheaper than the often futile treatment of colon cancer. A pap smear is cheaper than cercivical cancer. I could go on and on as a former nurse but surely the bright people can see the point I'm trying to make. The CBO doesn't take into account those savings of preventative care. The picture may be better than the savings projected.
11:27 AM on 03/20/2010
One colonoscopy is cheaper than treating cancer..true.

850 colonoscopies at $3,000 each to catch the one precancer pollops costs over $2 1/2 million to prevent one cancer case. Prevention does not cost less it just catches problems earlier. The money spent on "clean" treatments offsets the savings.

While it is better to catch problems sooner it does NOT save any money overall.
01:05 PM on 03/20/2010
Apparently you don't qualify as one of the bright people I was refering to in my post.
08:18 PM on 03/19/2010
Why do we have to keep paying off the exploiters. This bill pays about $350 billion to the insurers. No wonder they support it. See Bill Moyers' "The Country Is Getting Mugged" at

http://ofthisandthat.org/Commentary2.html
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07:41 PM on 03/19/2010
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I have responded to your comment earlier, so go check it out. Autuer has delusions of grandeur. I do not care about him at all. My funzies are over, and now I just want mcantwell to reinstate her profile so I can leave in peace.

Reply Favorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 3/19/2010

Brownie, I do not like putting things up at the top of all this. It is unbecoming. But you need to understand your continuous destructive acts towards fellow posters is unacceptable. mcantwell may not come back, YOU hold all the blame for that. You have chosen to go after multiple posters, mostly all female, today with your anger and hurtfulness. YOU take no responsibilities for any of your actions and yet blame everyone else for their supposed trangressions.

Enough is Enough, as I said before. Go away, grow up. And please try to stay out of trouble in the real world. Many of us fear that you may harm real people at some point with your anger and frustrations. I don't care if you go to the klink, but others do not deserve to suffer do to your lack of control.

We want peace here but you come in, play games, harm others, acting like nothing happened. And your statement that you will leave never to return, HOW MANY TIMES have you said that to others here?
06:28 PM on 03/19/2010
hey, I just got my bank statement for my savings and instead of the 4 digit number that I know I have, the bank made a typo and show that I have 6 digits! I AM SO GIDDY!!!!! YAHOOOOOOOOO!
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Dosadi
Political agnostic
06:40 PM on 03/19/2010
Spend it quick, Banks love it when you do that.
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ilse
05:42 PM on 03/19/2010
I'm giddy too. I still believe President Obama and democrats later on will make sure we get some kind of medicare buy in or public option. This is just a beginning but not the end of it. Changes for the better will be made.
07:23 PM on 03/19/2010
We need to have a Plan B but we need to get this mess of heath insurance reform done first. We can't delude ourselves by calling it heath care reform anymore, it is not. It just supports the capitalist way of doing things a little differently working in the constraints of the provisions. Once the progressives start hollering about the insurance companies denial of tests and procedures we need to be ready. And there will still be denial of care as long as it's in the hands of insurance companies. So I figure then it will be time to introduce Medicare for all who want it to be created as a stand-alone bill as I firmly believe we need competition and that tax credits aren't going to work. First, people like me have no income to declare so need no tax filing. Second, people can't pay out of pocket first and then get reimbursed. Third if we get slapped with fines there will be a revolt right there. So tah dah, time for a different stand alone bill for Medicare for all who want it and there is your competition in the market.
10:27 PM on 03/19/2010
Are you talking about the current bankrupt Medicare or new one that will be funded by what exactly? just print more money?
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flyovermark
...Obamacare is tyranny...
04:41 PM on 03/19/2010
If it weren't for the mandate, dishonesty about the taxes, and the ridiculous claim that HCR will reduce the costs of healthcare, I could probably at least support the intention of it. The so-called "working poor" indeed do have a hard time affording a decent insurance plan, and the burden of it is disproportionate to their income. We already have insurance for the poor and elderly, and government run healthcare for the military. It's just the way we are approaching the problem that irks me. Seems like there oughta be a way to give a tax incentive for the self employed and the working poor that is similar to the employment linked tax incentive, and still have it be voluntary. Too bad the Dems started out with universal healthcare as the starting point, and compromised away everything until all that was left was this POS. Our lawmakers should have sat down and had a discussion about the best way to accomplish the goal, instead of the best way to score a political victory, that enjoyed the support of both political parties. Another opportunity lost to partisan politics.
01:36 AM on 03/20/2010
The opportunity was lost because of a blatant power grab.
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andrew alfano starbucks
03:01 PM on 03/19/2010
Need to set some time aside and really read through this
02:06 PM on 03/19/2010
i think we should give these no sayers,a question, are you satified that 40.000 people will die this year without health ins.and is it ok if one of them is a realitive. think about it it could happen. i
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LittleOldLadyWho
Lifelong Liberal Democrat
02:15 PM on 03/19/2010
Sad, very sad AND statistically correct!

Thank you!!
02:27 PM on 03/19/2010
so the 120,000 tax payers that will die in the next 4 yrs....dont count

casulties of war ?
03:07 PM on 03/19/2010
Correct? Is that from personal knowledge?

Of those 40,000, if they are to get health insurance, they will automatically go in and be cured?

My father has insurance but was reluctant to see the doctor and "complain." His cancer went undiagnosed until it was too late.

Health insurance does not protect your health, it protects your assets if you get sick.

Your car insurance will not protect your car from getting in an accident, but it will protect your assets if you need repairs.
02:21 PM on 03/19/2010
so..its ok for the 120,000 people who will pay taxes the next 4 yrs...to die