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Google Shuts Down China Search, Redirects Users To Hong Kong (UPDATED)

Google Leaves China

Huffington Post   First Posted: 05/22/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:55 PM ET

UPDATE 3/23/2010 11:31AM ET: In response to Google's decision to stop its censorship of search results, China has retaliated by censoring Google's Hong Kong site.

The New York Times reports:

The Chinese government moved on Tuesday to restrict access of mainland users to the Hong Kong site, the use of which Google had hoped would allow it to keep its pledge to end censorship while retaining a share of China's fast-growing Internet search market.


But mainland Chinese users on Tuesday could not see uncensored Hong Kong content because government computers either disabled searches for objectionable content completely or blocked links to certain results.


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UPDATE 3/23/2010 9:11AM ET: Google co-founder Sergey Brin discussed Google's decision to stop censoring search results in a New York Times interview.

Brin noted that his experience growing up under a totalitarian regime in the Soviet Union, where he lived until nearly six years of age, had informed his and his company's actions in China. 'It has definitely shaped my views, and some of my company's views,' Brin said.

There has been considerable speculation over the motives underlying Google's decision to stop censorship search results after nearly four years of doing so, some speculating that Google is more concerned about intellectual property than human rights. Brin told the New York Times, 'Our objection is to those forces of totalitarianism.'

He also discussed the fine line the company tried to walk in determining an appropriate strategy. The New York Times writes,

But he said there was a 'back and forth' with the Chinese government on what to do. 'There was a sense that Hong Kong was the right step,' Mr. Brin said.

But he added: 'There's a lot of lack of clarity. Our hope is that the newly begun Hong Kong service will continue to be available in mainland China.'

Later he added: 'The story's not over yet.'

Read the full interview here.
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After months of speculation over when--and if--Google would leave China, Google has finally made a move: the search engine has officially stopped censoring search results on its China search engine and is redirecting Chinese searches through its Hong Kong server.

As Business Insider notes, 'Google's China domain, Google.cn now re-directs to Google.com.hk.'

Google.com.hk includes a note in Chinese that reads '欢迎您来到谷歌搜索在中国的新家' (or, loosely translated, 'Welcome to Google Search in China's new home').

Google has posted a blog regarding its approach in China.

Google explains,

So earlier today we stopped censoring our search services--Google Search, Google News, and Google Images--on Google.cn. Users visiting Google.cn are now being redirected to Google.com.hk, where we are offering uncensored search in simplified Chinese, specifically designed for users in mainland China and delivered via our servers in Hong Kong. Users in Hong Kong will continue to receive their existing uncensored, traditional Chinese service, also from Google.com.hk. Due to the increased load on our Hong Kong servers and the complicated nature of these changes, users may see some slowdown in service or find some products temporarily inaccessible as we switch everything over.

Google states that the decision to halt censoring search results and redirect users to Google.com.hk is linked to the cyber-attacks that took place earlier this year: 'We also made clear that these attacks and the surveillance they uncovered--combined with attempts over the last year to further limit free speech on the web in China including the persistent blocking of websites such as Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Google Docs and Blogger--had led us to conclude that we could no longer continue censoring our results on Google.cn,' Google writes.

Read the full post from Google here.

Google notes that although the new approach to providing Chinese search is 'entirely legal and will meaningfully increase access to information for people in China,' the Chinese government may decide to block access to Google's Hong Kong-based search.

For this reason, Google has created a site on its App Status Dashboard that will allow people to monitor 'which Google services are available in China.'

The Associated Press notes that Google will maintain some operations in China:

Google plans to keep its engineering and sales offices in China so it can keep a technological toehold in the country and continue to sell ads for the Chinese-language version of its search engine in the U.S.

See a timeline of Google's controversies in China here.

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UPDATE 3/23/2010 11:31AM ET: In response to Google's decision to stop its censorship of search results, China has retaliated by censoring Google's Hong Kong site. The New York Times reports: The C...
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Jeremy Lin = Game Change
02:24 AM on 03/25/2010
Google is tilting at windmills. Now they have their panties in a bunch over Australia's proposed filtering. Brazil has taken them to court and won, and then there is the problem with Indai and So Korea. I suspect that Google thought they could make a case for internet freedom being a human right by "blaming China," a country we are all supposed to believe hates all kninds of freedom. But they have failed, and there are plenty of other tech companies waiting to fill the slack left by Google's hasty retreat.

Google's market share drastically shrinks to 12.7% in 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUVUX0r9l7k&feature=PlayList&p=70CBCCA16D67292F&index=7

Why?

Beacuse Google is in serious violation of China's laws, and Netizens reported last year that Google was blocking searches on the copywright case, while Baidu's search did produce results.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLNWANh17Ts&feature=PlayList&p=70CBCCA16D67292F&index=6

The deadline for Google to respond to these charges is the end of this month, March. Now I am wondering if Google has burned it's bridges.
02:47 PM on 03/23/2010
So the point of this story is that, whether Google is compliant or not, search results in China will still be censored because....China itself is still censored. It all seems a little pointless in the end, doesn't it? I guess it's good that Google has made Chinese censorship news again, but that's really all that's happened. Even if Google doesn't censor search results, internet users still have to make it through the "Great Firewall of China" before they can access any real information. Almost makes you wonder why the Chinese government even bothered forcing Google to participate in censorship, just so the net in China could be double-censored?
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04:07 PM on 03/23/2010
At least it pushed this issue out into the light of day. When Google was doing it behind the scenes it made the US corporation, on some level, complicit in violating Chinese civil rights. Now other governments and corporations will be forced to make more transparent decisions. It gives Google some enmity towards the government that hacked it's secrets, and perhaps reason to right this wrong.
05:13 PM on 03/23/2010
The Chinese government denied any hacking ... and believe me, if there was any proof of that claim, it would be all over every newspaper in the western world. Google was trying a smear campaign and it backfired. Lies and subterfuge continue to get your country into trouble around the Globe. Iraq, Afghanistan, spy planes over China's coast.. Trying to sabotage the Chinese premier's plane with spy devices and explosives, plotting violent revolts with opposition parties, etc, etc . Why don't you face facts for once ... the US is not a very honorable country.
10:50 AM on 03/23/2010
Our biggest mistake was initiating talks with China back in 1972. I was offered several positions with corporations for the Asia/Pac region but turned them down because the Chinese massacred over 100,000 students wanting democracy. The world saw what happened. Once a communist, always a communist.
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Jeremy Lin = Game Change
02:11 AM on 03/25/2010
"Chinese massacred 100,000 students"

WOW! That is a very serious accusation. Can you please provide your source, and evidence?

If you are referring to Tiananmen Incident, I can assure you that our very own government, USA, has investigated this accusation, and determined that China didn't massacre anyone. NSA official determination, It's on the internet. Why don't you try and find it with a Google search. Know what, you'll have a devil of a time finding it, because Google's search is rigged. ROFL
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10:10 AM on 03/23/2010
What Chinalover and the PRC won't tell you (or a Google search in China): Bulldozing Muslim homes.

"China to bulldoze old Kashgar."

http://hragvartanian.com/2009/05/29/china-to-bulldoze-old-kashgar/

The Chinese authorities are demolishing ancient Kashgar in far western China. Once an important stop on the Silk Road, Kashgar is a historic center of Islamic & Uighur Culture in China (over 77 percent of Kashgar city’s 325,000 citizens are Uighur Muslims).

Nine hundred families already have been moved from Kashgar’s Old City, “the best-preserved example of a traditional Islamic city to be found anywhere in central Asia,” as the architect and historian George Michell wrote in the 2008 book “Kashgar: Oasis City on China’s Old Silk Road.”

Over the next few years, city officials say, they will demolish at least 85 percent of this warren of picturesque, if run-down homes and shops. Many of its 13,000 families, Muslims from a Turkic ethnic group called the Uighurs (pronounced WEE-gurs), will be moved.

In its place will rise a new Old City, a mix of midrise apartments, plazas, alleys widened into avenues and reproductions of ancient Islamic architecture “to preserve the Uighur culture,” Kashgar’s vice mayor, Xu Jianrong, said in a phone interview. (source)
10:47 AM on 03/23/2010
progress happens ... do you really believe the US builds hiways and infrastructure, hospitals, military bases, sea ports, housing developments etc on pristine, uninhabited land that no human has ever walked on??? Sounds like it.
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11:10 AM on 03/23/2010
Progress. Lol. Convenient that it comes at the feet and in the villages of Muslims. Hypocrite.

The US government doesn't evict half a million people without compensation due to their religion--and k1ll the protesters--like the PRC does, ChinaLiar. When they seize land, through eminent domain, it involves lawyers and the courts, and cash. And it is a rarity compared to the frequency with which the PRC bulldozes entire neighborhoods.

So what is the government promising you to play ball? That's how it works, you play along, be a "good citizen," and you hope to get something in return. You're no student, you have the intellectual curiosity of a turnip. What's your price, a better wage, a couple chickens, what?
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11:12 AM on 03/23/2010
Wang Cuyun from Hubei Province was struggling with workers trying to tear down her house and was allegedly beaten by a worker wielding a wooden stick.

She was dumped in a drainage ditch that ringed her property and a bulldozer covered her with earth, burying her alive.

Witnesses said three policemen were present to supervise the eviction but did nothing to intervene or protect her.

Her son joined other relatives trying to rescue her. It took more than half an hour to pull her free from the ditch, by which time she was dead.

Wang's son moved her body to the side of a main road and was joined by thousands of local residents protesting at her death.

One man told Hubei Television that policemen had "stood around acting like it was none of their business."

Wang's death is the latest in a long series of assualts, intimidation and violence carried out by property developers in their efforts to obtain valuable land for development.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NYODB5D373oJ:www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,588578,00.html+china+bulldoze+how+many+evicted&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
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lmpub
09:33 AM on 03/23/2010
Good for Google.
09:29 AM on 03/23/2010
"Truth pressed to earth will rise again" ... William Cullen Bryant.
QuietLightTraveler
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10:45 AM on 03/23/2010
Shakespear said that before William Cullen Bryant
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rgilley
Question Authority!
09:21 AM on 03/23/2010
China has managed to keep it's people from communicating with a free world. Successfully.
10:16 AM on 03/23/2010
Not really. The censorship is not that effective, and many Chinese travel abroad.
10:17 AM on 03/23/2010
Thank goodness
08:26 AM on 03/23/2010
Looks like the Chinese industrial espionage operations aimed at stealing all of the Google technology will have to refocus its efforts towards a new location.
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Joey Y
09:14 AM on 03/23/2010
Exactly. They aren't fooling anyone either by saying that is must be someone else.
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Jeremy Lin = Game Change
07:23 AM on 03/23/2010
Just when you think you know what this is all about, the s**t hits the fan...

Google hi-tailes it out of China without compensating the Chinese Writers Association authous as promised.

http://business.rediff.com/report/2010/mar/23/tech-chinese-authors-seek-compensation-from-google.htm

I believe it's called copyright infringement, not internet freedom.
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Joey Y
09:15 AM on 03/23/2010
What about China's attempts to steal IP from google and other american corporations, and forcing companies to sign over patents in exchange for access to their marketplace?
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Jeremy Lin = Game Change
06:45 AM on 03/23/2010
I am glad to see at least one country stand up to a big global corporation, which is exactly what Google is. China is trying to bring millions of people out of poverty and Google has it's pants in a bunch over their weird version of "freedom of the internet." Please let me know when Google stops co-operating with the NSA.

China wins this row, big time. Google is a tool, China is the Market. When in Rome....
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Jeremy Lin = Game Change
07:07 AM on 03/23/2010
Ooops, forgot the link...

Google urged to respect copyrights of Chinese writers -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbTyOBCEi9Q

Seems Google takes it's version of "freedom" a bit too far. This story is not what comes up when you search for Google's China problems on Google. If you think Google searches are noght "weighted," than you really are naieve.
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RogHol
Unemployed&Proud(again)
07:41 AM on 03/23/2010
HAHAHAHA!
If I were you I shouldn't drag copyright issues up!
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Joey Y
09:17 AM on 03/23/2010
Chine loses. They are exposed, which is something they hate. If they were so benevolent, why do they cover up their own history and go to such great lengths to pretend some of their worst atrocities never happened? Why do they jail people for even asking for the truth?
09:22 AM on 03/23/2010
Joey - why does Japan cover up its atrocities in China. Why doesn't America admit to its atocities in Iraq? I could go on but why bother.
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Jeremy Lin = Game Change
02:04 AM on 03/25/2010
Part 2

China does not "pretend" that their worse atrocities never happened. They have admitted that the Cultural Revolution was wrong, hurt many, sincerely apologised and are continuing to make amends.

Two years ago, China enacted a law to protect the people's right to know, and police cannot withhold public info, and must respond honestly to reporters questions. falsifying info, faking photos, videao and info are now serious violations. Google should understand this.

Your accusation that China jails people for asking for the "truth" is rediculous, and shows you do not understand what is going on.

BTW: HP removed Jesse ventura's piece about the World Trade center because it violates HP's policy against spreading "conspiracy theories."
06:36 AM on 03/23/2010
The elephant in the room which all of these China bashers will not admit is that the days of the US dictating what their corporations will do in developing countries is over. The developing countries (BRIC) and others are finally able to tell these word corporations : Play by our rules if you want to play in our country. The Americans are not used to being constrained by anyone hence all the hooray over this Google incident. Better get used to this America.
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RogHol
Unemployed&Proud(again)
06:46 AM on 03/23/2010
This has nothing to do with US desire to dictate anything.
It has everything to do with the last undemocratic power of fairly high significane, China and it's pathetic desire to censor information for pure power ambitions.
This is right to fight and I applaud Google for this move.
China has to grow up.
Freedom of speech shouldn't be fought, it should be supported.
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RogHol
Unemployed&Proud(again)
06:55 AM on 03/23/2010
And let me add this:
I believe America will never be used to nations harrasing, detaning and manipulating it's citizens because of their beliefs, their covitions and their desire for uncensored information.
Neither will Europe and certainly not Sweden where I live.
09:25 AM on 03/23/2010
RogHol - have you seen the reactions of Americans to the change in health care? Have you read about the birthers or the KKK or the anti-abortionists? In Sweden what you take for granted is not a right in America.
10:18 AM on 03/23/2010
RogHol, gotta disagree. You all have more personal freedoms and are far more tolerant, on the whole, than in the US.
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hulagirrrl
03:06 AM on 03/23/2010
I am happy that they are standing up in China, but I caution everybody. Google is one of the corporations that is pushing the end of net neutrality........
02:32 AM on 03/23/2010
BRAVO !
BRAVO !
01:54 AM on 03/23/2010
First the Dems on healthcare, now google on free speech. Seems like these boys are finding where they left their balls.
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hulagirrrl
03:05 AM on 03/23/2010
Not only the free speech, they were spied on, and they are protecting themselves. I think more business should be brave and stand up against that....
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davidgoldmandg
12:45 AM on 03/23/2010
Thank you Google!

You're good and your true.

Appreciate it.