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Bank Lobbyists Fought For Very Thing They're Now Trying To Kill, Says Elizabeth Warren

First Posted: 05/29/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:00 PM ET

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Bank lobbyists are fighting to derail a key element of consumer protection which they fought to preserve just four years ago, threatening to kill financial reform and harm the families that would be protected by it, argues bailout watchdog Elizabeth Warren in a forceful opinion piece published Tuesday.

"Banks or families?" Warren, a Harvard Law professor and chair of the TARP Congressional Oversight Panel, asks rhetorically in an op-ed in Politico. "For almost a year, the big banks and the American Bankers Association (ABA) have presented that choice to Congress. Lobbyists argue that meaningful consumer protection will jeopardize the safety and soundness of banks, telling lawmakers that they must decide between the two."

Indeed, bankers and federal bank regulators -- with the exception of Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairman Sheila Bair -- argue that shifting consumer protection to a new agency, solely charged with protecting borrowers from abusive lenders, would irreparably hurt the nation's banks. Their argument is that by protecting consumers from particular products the new agency could have a detrimental effect on bank profitability, hurting the very lenders whose health is key to the economic recovery, according to bankers and their allies.

"ABA lobbyists now aggressively insist that separating consumer protection and safety and soundness functions would unravel bank stability," Warren writes. "Yet just a few years ago, they heatedly argued the opposite--that the functions should be distinct.

"In 2006, the ABA claimed to act on principle as it railed against...[a]proposal for 'combin[ing] safety and soundness guidance with consumer protection guidance, creating confusion that is best addressed by separating them...[The] ABA recommends that the safety and soundness provisions relating to underwriting and portfolio management be separated from the consumer protection provisions.'

"Read that again: the ABA in 2006 said that policymakers should separate safety-and-soundness and consumer protection--exactly the opposite of its position today," Warren notes.

The memo Warren publicizes is a March 29, 2006, letter the ABA sent to the four federal bank regulators -- the FDIC, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency, Office of Thrift Supervision, and the Federal Reserve -- arguing that the agencies were overstepping in trying to regulate exotic mortgages. The next year, what had began as an increase in home loan defaults on subprime mortgages mushroomed into a worldwide credit crunch before culminating in the fall of 2008 as a near-collapse of the entire financial system.

It all started with questionable, sometimes predatory subprime and exotic mortgages.

The ABA argues in its memo that bank regulators, in trying to rein in exotic mortgages, were going too far. The trade group had four main points:

First, the memo states, the rules would mainly apply to banks and their subsidiaries -- rather than the entire universe of lenders; second, regulators' proposed guidance "overstates the risks of these mortgage products"; third, the rules need a bit more flexibility -- they're just too strict; and finally, regulators were letting consumer protection issues impact their concerns about bank profitability.

"This 2006 memo illustrates the ABA's real consistency-- consistent opposition to meaningful reform," Warren says. "If there is a smoking gun in the battle over financial regulatory reform, the 2006 ABA memo is it."

A close look at the ABA memo reveals that the organization was trying to tell regulators that if they were concerned about consumer protection, they should address it using consumer protection laws on the books. Issues of bank profitability -- also known as safety and soundness -- were best to be addressed using a separate rules regime. The marriage of the two would ultimately lead to the best regulation, said Robert R. Davis, the ABA's executive vice president for mortgage markets, financial management and public policy, in a Monday interview with the Huffington Post.

"This doesn't say that consumer protection requirements and safety and soundness requirements don't need to be considered in context with one another. It just says that the proper place to propose the consumer protection regulations is in the body of consumer protection regulations," Davis said. The bank regulators' guidance on nontraditional mortgages was aimed to "prevent banks from making risky loans that affect safety and soundness," he added.

"Ideally these things could have been linked up at the same time," Davis said. But consumer protection and safety and soundness operate under different regulation regimes, he said. Hence, regulators should prescribe rules for each under the two different tracks, and then merge them together to come up with coherent policy.

"They shouldn't be competing with each another," Davis said. "You don't achieve one at the expense of the other; you have to achieve both of them."

"Now, it's been argued that there could have been more focus on consumer protection. You learn something through every cycle and every experience -- that's something we're going through now, to make sure we have the balance right," said Davis.

The House of Representatives passed a financial reform bill in December calling for a new consumer-dedicated agency. The legislation calls for the kind of agency -- with the kind of power and authority -- the ABA, along with other financial services trade groups, have been aggressively lobbying against. Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), in his bill, creates what's widely considered to be a weaker version of the House agency. It's housed within the Federal Reserve, and its decisions are subject to veto by the federal bank regulators.

"Our strongly-held view is you're never going to be able to get the balance right in a changing world if you separate the decision-making process," Davis said. "It's a joint product. The regulatory structure has to produce two things simultaneously -- safety and soundness and consumer protection, and we're in favor of both."

That's an illogical argument, says Raj Date, chairman and executive director of the Cambridge Winter Center, a non-profit, non-partisan think tank focused on U.S. financial institutions. Consumer protection can absolutely be separate from consideration of the banking sector's profitability; in fact, it'll lead to better outcomes on both ends, argues Date.

"Look, it's not like you have a choice between safe banks on one hand or consumer protection on the other -- it's a totally false dichotomy," Date, a former top executive at Capital One Financial Corp. and Deutsche Bank, told the Huffington Post on Monday. "My argument as a former banker is this: If you, as a banker, think that you need to abuse consumers a little bit in order to make a profit, why don't you get out of this business and leave it people who are smarter and more ethical than you are?

"It just totally isn't true that you need to be fleecing people left and right and being non-transparent to make this business viable. It's only the existence of people being non-transparent that makes it so difficult for an honest person to make a buck in consumer finance," Date said.

The ABA's current position that bank health and consumer protection are inextricably linked is "wrong-minded." As for its 2006 memo, Date said:

"What they were doing was they were arguing that you are not necessarily going to get good results on safety and soundness policy if you combine that analysis with analysis on consumer protection," Date noted. "I was astonished by the argument the ABA was making. It's silly. On its face it's implausible and illogical.

"It's as though their argument was: 'Listen, bank regulators, you're confusing yourselves and coming up with bad policy from a safety and soundness point of view by troubling yourselves with what the right consumer protection answers are. For consumer protection policy, we have a whole separate regime for that, and you shouldn't somehow let your worries that these are bad or inappropriate products for consumers bleed into your thinking that these are bad products for banks,'" said Date.

"The ABA's premise that the country can't have both meaningful consumer protection and safety and soundness is wrong," Warren writes. "In fact, its defense against an independent consumer agency boils down to this: if banks can't trick and trap people with fine print and legalese, they won't be able to turn a profit."

Among the ABA's most powerful and ardent supporters is Sen. Richard Shelby, the top Republican on the Senate Banking Committee.

Two weeks ago, during an ABA conference, Shelby energized the crowd of bankers, receiving several rounds of applause and a standing ovation at the conclusion of a speech in which he re-asserted his belief that the banking sector's profitability is more important than consumer protection.

"Safety and soundness trumps everything," Shelby said to loud applause. "It trumps the consumer finance whatever."

Shelby's point was that if banks aren't profitable, then they won't be in a position to lend to consumers.

Last week, shortly before the Banking committee voted along party lines to pass the Dodd bill and send it to the Senate floor, Shelby took a veiled swipe at Warren, who has emerged as a folk hero for her ardent and passionate defense of consumers and the middle class in the face of what appears to be overwhelming opposition by banks and their allies in Congress.

"The relationship between banks and consumers has attracted the most media attention, and perhaps the most rhetoric," Shelby said March 22. "Recently, a relatively well-known commentator characterized the debate over consumer protection as a clash between those who favor either the banks, or families.

"Not only is that particular characterization absurd, but it is also incredibly unconstructive. Reforming our entire financial regulatory structure is a difficult and complex undertaking. It requires people of good faith to work cooperatively toward a common goal, not an 'us versus them' mentality," said Shelby.

Warren told HuffPost earlier this month that the dispute over consumer protection is one "between families and banks."

In a January letter, Warren wrote supporters:

"The next few weeks will determine whether families will have to play by rules written by the banks and for the banks -- rules that let the industry get away with anything. In my view, we cannot let families lose again."

In her Tuesday piece, Warren doubled down, writing that the Senate -- Shelby included -- has a clear choice when it comes to resolving the dispute over beefed-up consumer protection:

"In the weeks ahead, the Senate does not need to decide between safety and soundness and consumer protection.

"[T]he Senate does need to decide between banks and families."


READ the ABA's 2006 letter below:


ABA letter on mortgages-03_29_2006
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09:09 PM on 04/16/2010
Proph.For the rich built their houses by unrighteous acts, stealing from the works of others hard labors. So true.
09:06 PM on 04/16/2010
greed is the anti-ch and were told there are many many of them even J*s*s time he said himself. All is greed. He palled around the poor not the rich did he not? For the rich to enter what? Will be easier. for a camel to go through the eye of a needle then the rich to enter?
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Auduboner
06:50 PM on 04/06/2010
This article is incomplete without a disclosure of the Cash Shelby has received from banks, lenders, bank PACs, investment banks and real estate interests.
03:12 PM on 03/31/2010
Quote in this article""A close look at the ABA memo reveals that the organization was trying to tell regulators that if they were concerned about consumer protection, they should address it using consumer protection laws on the books. Issues of bank profitability -- also known as safety and soundness -- were best to be addressed using a separate rules regime. The marriage of the two would ultimately lead to the best regulation, said Robert R. Davis, the ABA's executive vice president for mortgage markets, financial management and public policy, in a Monday interview with the Huffington Post
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The Office of Thrift Supervision on 12-16-2006 stated in writing " That there are No Federal Consumer Banking Regulations"
That means the ABA Exec VP Robert Davis is not correct in his remarks concerning the consumer protection laws on the books that would directly pertain to compliance examinations by the regulator-the Office of Thrift Supervsion.
Michael LittleBig
Cleveland Ohio
Linda from Deerfield
Paying attention
09:53 PM on 03/30/2010
Bizarre arguments on behalf of banks make it seem that somebody knows something that they want to hide. Unreliability of credit ratings? Profits entirely dependent upon shady practices? Why doesn't anybody say what they really mean?
11:26 PM on 03/30/2010
Here is what no one is saying: Our "bail-out" money was not just given to Wall Street - it bought back billions - BILLIONS - of fraudulent securities. In PRINCIPLE, those securites each included 2000-ish home mortgages, so even if they were inflated mortgages, or sub-prime mortgages, or whatever, they were mortgages on ACTUAL property. IN PRINCIPLE.

In REALITY, the federal government is working around the clock to figure out how many of the "mortgages" that were bundled and sold by Wall Street actually have assets backing them.

Here is a clue: NPR bought a security just like those that our tax dollars purchased, and they had it analyzed, and of the 2000 loans bundled in their security, at the time of it's purchase 41% of the loans bundled in it were DEAD or DYING.

And that's, to quote VO Biden, big F-ink deal. No less so because the Administration has promised Wall Street that no one will go to jail behind this. The American public will suffer...and suffer...and suffer...and suffer...and suffer...and suffer..BUT NOT THE BANKERS WHO DEFRAUDED US.
09:14 PM on 04/16/2010
Who got the bail out money before leaving office and once again fear fear fear, but remember 2 years economy good good good good till last 40 days of election in Sept all is crashing hurry hurry fear fear need bail out real fast still in power had 5 months left got bail out hand over no plans, demands nothing put in place. Very sad.
07:57 PM on 03/30/2010
Why would you borrow mortgage money if there are no rules of law
to protect your rights?


Who speaks for the millions and millions of foreclosure victims?
Who stands up for the millions and millions of foreclosure victims?
Who protects the millions and millions of foreclosure victims?

Certainly not the Congress;
Certainly not the President;

Certainly not the Bankers;
Certainly not the Lawyers;

Certainly not the Government Agencies.
Certainly not the politicians that you voted for.

Can we define the victim as one who trusted their banker and the banker betrayed them?
Can we define the victim as one who had no rights against the Bankers that Congress licensed to steal by aberrant lending practices?

Can we define the victim who had no protection from the Federal Regulators who refused to supervise, regulate and enforce the laws, rules and regulations of those predatory Banks?

Can we define the victim who is blamed for asking for a mortgage in good faith from a Bank
that takes advantage of the borrower, since the Banker controls the entire process and every facet of the mortgage loan process?

Can we define the victim as one whose mortgage was foreclosed by the Banker and legally lynched since the borrower had no voice to object, contest or question the conduct of the Banker?

The borrower has no rights.

Today the borrowers options are Strategic Default-(walk-away) or bankruptcy.


Elizabeth Warren has the solution- The Consumer Financial
05:03 PM on 03/30/2010
Can we give Eliz Warren a badge and law enforcement authority to go with that position?
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dread
04:48 PM on 03/30/2010
America needs this lady for President
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chlai88
Change is the only constant
03:49 PM on 03/30/2010
Call me dumb but I just don't dig the ABA arguments. How can it be that what's good for the consumers are bad for the banks ? Whatever happened to customer first, first-class service & all that goodness the industry's ads are brainwashing us on ? You mean to say that we have been treated like trash all along ? That we're really just digits in their fat balance sheets & huge bonuses ?
05:13 PM on 03/30/2010
The USA became a debt driven economy. It's kind of like everyone being turned into sharecroppers (but in different industries). You toil and toil the land and that plantation store you have to use always keeps you in debt.

It's not about what you can pay for, but how long they can string out your payments.

That's why the big push to get everyone into mortgages.....excuse me, I mean "homes".

Notice the biggest "reform" is STUDENT LOANS. It's still a loan. And still part of driving the debt economy.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
03:12 PM on 03/30/2010
So aren't the banks making a blanket admission that their profits rely on their predatory relationship towards consumers?

That's as bad as conservatives always defending fraud as a necessary business model.
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science teacher
03:52 PM on 03/30/2010
Sounds like time to do a little "redistribution" of the wealth.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
05:17 PM on 03/30/2010
Yeah, like ending corporate welfare.
08:23 PM on 04/15/2010
They are absolutely admitting that without the ability to scam, defraud, manipulate and virtually rob their borrowers/customers -- without fear of any regulatory or legal restraints -- they can't make a profit. They're just hoping nobody notices the core of their arguments. The banks are actually, though inadvertently, 'fessin'-up to the most fundamental fact about the economic system known as capitalism: if you can't screw someone -- and the easy ones twice -- capitalism doesn't work, because you can't make a profit. And there you have it in a nutshell, laid out for everyone to see, by the folks who supposedly know the most about and "manage" our economic system: it's based on perpetrating, and perpetuating, FRAUD, DECEIT, THEFT-BY-CONVERSION, CRIMINAL MIS- AND MALFEASANCE, DISHONESTY, ETC.
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TJCole
02:09 PM on 03/30/2010
That's how they roll Elizabeth....

They pulled the same thing, with the Health Care debacle...

We're a government of the bankers, by the bankers, and for the bankers, not the people...!
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Michael Valentine
Retired SEIU Member
02:07 PM on 03/30/2010
Why not an independent agency with Dr. Warren as it's head. I'd love to see the bankers sweat.
05:04 PM on 03/30/2010
And a badge...and a....
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genboomxer
Don't believe everything you think.
01:46 PM on 03/30/2010
Apparently the "invisible hand" needs to remain invisible or Capitalism will perish.

Food and pharmaceutical companies are extremely profitable even though they are heavily regulated to protect consumers (people; patients).

Defense contractors are extraoridinarily profitable even though they are heavily regulated to protect consumers (military personnel).

Their argument is bunk. If further regulated will they be able to be as unfettered in their pursuit of profit as before? No, they'll have to suck it up and make do with being merely very profitable instead of obscenely profitable.

Let's look at history, shall we? IBM became a powerhouse of a business during the most regulated and Liberal time in our history. GM (& others) sold more cars and grew to its largest size during the same period, WITH union labor.

We had protective tariffs on imports to protect our manufacturing base and the highest tax bracket was between 70% - 90% during the same period (pre-Reagan). Government spending was at its lowest point (post WWII; pre-Reagan).

So explain to me again how government intrusion and union labor are to blame for business failure? Tell me again how we as a nation of laws & people would benefit by having our Government run like a business?
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LogicalMathMan
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01:45 PM on 03/30/2010
Some of the actions taken by appointees of Mr. Obama's administration have really impressed me. If the HC bill was representative of the sheer audacity of hope, then the women in the administration have afforded us an insight into what can actually be accomplished despite all the efforts of lobbyists.

Elizabeth Warren, Harvard professor and now Chairwoman of the TARP, has acquitted herself rather admirably. She tracked down all the funds from the $750 billion GW/Paulsen bailout, although only $350 billion had been accounted for when she was appointed to this position. Since that time, she has accounted for all of the TARP money under the Obama stimulus.

I do know this about Elizabeth Warren. Like Ms. Katherine Sebelius, Ms. Warren is going to tell the banks and all those lobbyists, 'Don't look for loopholes. There aren't any.'

So, despite all the bad blood being flung across party lines, let's admit that never before have so many women done so much good for so great a number.

Shelby, if you recall, was the senator who held out on voting on extending unemployment benefits until Alabama secured a defense contract that would employ up to 1000 workers. Essentially, his actions said, 'Screw the rest of you. I will twist arms for the 1000 people of my state.' I do not know if this is wrong, but I do know that delaying benefits for millions to serve a thousand, is dubious and disingenuous.
01:35 PM on 03/30/2010
If they don't pass financial reform that creates an independent regulatory authority that puts consumer protections first (as continuously urged by E. Warren) I urge all of you to take your banking to your local credit union. cut them off at the knees.
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ToHoJo
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02:07 PM on 03/30/2010
Until the banks figure out a way to buy/convert the Credit Unions (I have no evidence of this, and know almost zero about finance, but since laws always seem to almost always go in favor of big finance, it would not surprise me).
10:35 PM on 03/30/2010
If I had to guess the banks are going to use the commercial real estate market, as many of the commercial loans are at smaller banks and credit unions, to diminish these institutions balance sheets. Then the rating agencies will downgrade these institutions, even if not warrented as these guys are not exactly honest, combined with shorting on wall street. You then have a bank you can pick up for pennies on the dollar. Very similar to what Chase did to bear stearns. This is not the first time as many feel that this is the goal of the federal reserves policy. It makes sense seeing that the fed is a private bank, operating for private profit owned by the banks who are going to profit from these activities. Then who has the money to purchase these institutions, maybe ones that just received billions in assistance and is not currently lending.

end the fed