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Seniors Wary Of Health Care Reform Impact On Medicare

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RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR   04/ 1/10 01:34 AM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — Seniors aren't celebrating President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.

While Democrats hail the sweeping legislation as the greatest expansion of the social safety net since Medicare, they also fear that seniors won't see it that way for this fall's elections. Indeed, Republicans have portrayed the overhaul as a raid on Medicare – a bedrock of retirement security – to provide money to pay for covering younger, uninsured workers and their families.

An Associated Press-GfK survey in March found that 54 percent of seniors opposed the legislation that was then taking final shape in Congress, compared with 36 percent of people age 18-50. And last week a USA Today/Gallup Poll found that a majority of seniors said passing the bill was a bad thing – while younger people were positive about it.

There's no doubt that broad cuts in projected Medicare payments to insurance plans, hospitals, nursing homes and other service providers will sting. What hasn't sunk in yet is that the new law also improves the lot of many Medicare beneficiaries. Obama is hoping that most will eventually conclude the plusses outweigh the minuses.

Keenly aware that this is a congressional election year, Democrats structured the law so virtually all the cuts start next year and take effect only gradually. For this year, the law provides a sweetener. More than 3 million seniors who have been falling into a Medicare prescription coverage gap will get a $250 rebate, a down payment on closing the "doughnut hole."

Nonetheless, seniors are anxious.

"I'm afraid from the little I've heard that it's not good for seniors," said Muriel Couzon, 86, a retired supervisory social worker from New York City. A Democrat, Couzon says the legislation could affect her vote this fall: "I have to see what it will do to me and other seniors like me."

It's going to take a while before the verdict is in. Change will come slowly to Medicare, which covers 46 million seniors and disabled people. There will be winners and losers:

_Gross cuts in projected payments to insurers, hospitals and other providers total $533 billion over 10 years, according to a preliminary analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation. About $100 billion will be plowed back into Medicare, leaving a net cut of $428 billion. Medicare spending will continue to grow under the law, just not as fast. The reductions are smaller (about 6 percent) than Democratic President Bill Clinton and a Republican Congress came up with in 1997 (12 percent). Still, they're deep enough that some experts believe a future Congress will reconsider them.

_The law strengthens traditional Medicare, which covers about three-fourths of seniors, by improving preventive care and increasing payments to frontline primary care doctors and nurses serving as medical coordinators. But it gradually reduces generous government subsidies to private insurance plans, Medicare alternatives that have lately gained popularity. That could lead to an exodus from the private plans.

_The most significant new benefit – closing Medicare's prescription coverage gap – won't be fully phased in until 2020. That's a long time if you're old and frail. The coverage gap starts after the first $2,830 spent on medications in a year. Seniors then pay entirely out of their pocket until they have spent $4,550, when the government starts picking up 95 percent of the tab. After the rebate this year, seniors in the gap will get a 50 percent discount on brand name drugs in 2011, and a smaller break on generics. The discounts gradually ramp up until the "doughnut hole" is closed.

_One change has received little attention but could have major consequences. The law authorizes a variety of experiments to provide better care for seniors struggling with multiple chronic illnesses – about half the program's beneficiaries. Prominent voices in the medical community have been clamoring for the government to use Medicare as a laboratory for change. If the approach succeeds, fewer people may end up in the hospital for bad drug reactions and other common problems.

"It's going to be very important for Medicare beneficiaries to understand that on the whole, this is not the disaster some people have painted it to be," said health economist Marilyn Moon, who as a former Medicare trustee helped oversee program finances from 1995 through 2000. "It is a bit of a mixed bag, but I think on balance it is going to put the program in a better position, over a long period of time."

Her one major caveat: Many seniors in private insurance plans under Medicare Advantage will face higher premiums and reduced benefits as subsidies are scaled back over three to six years to bring the private plans' costs in line with those of traditional Medicare.

"Beneficiaries will notice that, and they're going to be unhappy because it's a takeaway," said Moon, who directs the health care program at the American Institutes for Research.

Government payments to the private plans – about 10 percent richer than per-person spending for traditional Medicare – have enabled them to offer comprehensive coverage for less. Seniors flocked to sign up, boosting enrollment to about one quarter of all Medicare beneficiaries.

The same cuts will benefit seniors in traditional Medicare, who have been paying higher monthly premiums to support the government's generosity. There's also a potential silver lining for private plans. The law allows them to earn bonus payments for high quality.

Such nuances got lost in an emotional debate that veered off into "death panels" and "pulling the plug on grandma." Nothing that drastic was ever in the bill. Still, Republicans accuse Obama of slashing Medicare, and polls show the message has stuck.

"We've got an education job to do with seniors," said Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn. "I think they are probably the least open to seeing the benefits."

AARP and other major organizations representing seniors supported the law, despite the polls. Now they're planning a sustained outreach campaign to call attention to the legislation's benefits. It might not be an easy sale.

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09:20 AM on 04/02/2010
This makes me wonder if some republican is getting kickbacks from medicare fraud and made up this story to scare seniors. There are so many overcharges and fraud going on that someone must be on a receiving end beside the billing agents. I recently had surgery and had tests that overlapped with the same results and actually had another surgeon along with my surgeon named on my pre-admission form that had nothing to do with my surgery. I refused to sign it until his name was removed. See, they would have charged Medicare double for something that was not required. As it was they were billed for all of the extra testing and I had to pay the 20 percent out of my Social Security allotment.
12:44 AM on 04/02/2010
Seniors will have to now meet with Waxman to open their books and prove why this concerns them.
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06:56 PM on 04/01/2010
The reform package will attack fraud in Medicare but I hope it is strong enough to do so soon and effectively. Massive stealing from Medicare has been going on for decades, and both parties should have tightened the system up a long time ago. I believe part of the problem is that bills sent to Medicare must be paid fairly quickly, before there's much time to investigate. That should be stopped, period.

Republicans and their nasty Fox channel have spread the most crazy Lie's about reform and virtually everything else the Dem's try to do. The Dem's have passed significant credit card and financial reforms, but they can still do better.

The GOP is hoping to get back in to reverse these reforms, stop them, give money and time, before they become stronger.
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hrc04
put on your pants and go home.
06:48 PM on 04/01/2010
What I gather from this is that Boehner's "Armageddon" cries will backfire especially with the seniors when they don't see any harm.
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03:55 PM on 04/01/2010
I'll bet they are upset, seniors typically watch MSM and listen to MSM stations and they tend to sensationalize things for ratings. The seniors who are informed are fine.
03:46 PM on 04/01/2010
some posters need a history lesson. republicans DID THIS MESS>.
Dems
#1 social security rethugs hated it and blocked it
#2 medicare/ rethugs railed against that too
#3 healthcare rethugs, well they HATE everything FOR THE PEOPLE
do some checking find out for yourself.
p.s. they hated the Alaska purchase too!
01:20 PM on 04/01/2010
Nothing in life is truly "free," I think a lot of the problems could be solved if the fat cats (one guy earning a BILLION!!) paid their fare share. We need to force them to assist all those who they take advantage of by having thim incur higher tax rates.
01:29 PM on 04/01/2010
I tend to agree with you somewhat but what is a 'fair share" The top 5% of wage earners already pay 40% of the taxes. How much should they pay in your mind? Just curious.
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StJames
In absentia luci tenebrae vincunt
06:23 PM on 04/01/2010
The top hedge fund manager made $4 BILLION dollars last year? Do you think he could live on just 1 or 2 billion? I do. The rich complain about their tax rates and even if they paid 60 to 90 % they would be living better than the rest of us.
01:13 PM on 04/01/2010
Is KathyinCt typical of you liberals/progressive's mindset. I hope our old people don't have to depend on people like her. Her attitude seems to be, to heck with the old people I want mine now.
01:20 PM on 04/01/2010
You utterly miss the point.

I don't owe you a CV (that means a resume) but I worked to support Johnson and creation of Medicare, come from a long line of liberal Dems who fought hard for civil rights, economic justice,etc.

My point was NOT at all that I want mine. "Mine" will be gone anyway.

My point is that these seniors -- not all, but the ones who are out screaming -- want it all, including fill that donut hole -- and then they rail against the government for trying to help others, too.

Like families with sick kids.

Or people under age 60 with chronic diseases.

I protest the Selfish Seniors, not all seniors.

Big difference.
01:26 PM on 04/01/2010
You don't owe me anything but your first post came across as uncaring, selfish and rude. I hope my mother never has to depend on a person like you regardless if you say your a democrat or whatever. I have a feeling that many, many "progressives" think the way that you do.
12:58 PM on 04/01/2010
BuzzyBill, guess who has the highest rate of treatment denial. Blue Cross, Aetna, or one of the other major health insurances. Nope, its medicare, (The US government) Medicare denies 6.5% of claims whereas the private companies deny about 3% of their claims.
The Supreme Court has said that the most protected privacy under our Constitution is between a patient and his/her doctor. However, this bill orders doctors to send in to the government information on patient visits so that the government can determine which treatment if most efficient. I don't want the federal government making that decision.
Also, can you please tell me how one can take 500 billion dollars from a program and maintain its integrity of treatment?
As far as young people worried about Social Security, it is in the red THIS YEAR. I would be worried too if I had to depend on it.
01:11 PM on 04/01/2010
well said
01:12 PM on 04/01/2010
you're right. there are serious problems in those programs.

what would you propose to fix those problems?
01:18 PM on 04/01/2010
#1 WE need to train more doctors.
#2 Give money to local governments to build medical clinics that can be used on a sliding scale. I live in a small Texas town and we have a system like this that has been used for half a century. It works well, however, I think it could stand to be increased.
#3 Do NOT force everyone to buy private insurance. Not only is that unconstitutional it is a recipe for waste.
12:55 PM on 04/01/2010
The fact is most people never pay into medicare the amount of benefits they recieve in just a short time. One knee replacement can eat up many lower income persons lifetime payments. Persons that live into their late seventies and beyond are surely getting benefits never paid for.

Another factor, the cut in medicare is from waste, but also the cuts are a slowing of the inflation adjustment of payments. Payments have been rising much faster than inflation. Washington DC is the only place in the world where slowing down the inflation adjustment is a cut. Its unreal this republican and senior blather about cuts.

The health care bill should have added more cost cutting. But the shift from emergency room and specialist care to primary care should bring down cost. I know someone who made $300,000 in one year on referals. This is a kickback that shouldn't be.

Further, these whining corporations that are pissed about their double dip being taken away are shameless. If I charge my company gas mileage at 50 cents a mile I can't double dip and deduct it from my income tax. I'd get fined. That is exactly what coprations are doing on the prescription drug benefits. Its pure bullshit.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
12:55 PM on 04/01/2010
"Keep your damn gubment hands off my Medicare!"
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12:45 PM on 04/01/2010
The Obama crew could have reformed health insurance without costing the taxpayers a penny, but then that would have not increased govt. control, which the is the aim as we all know. Another lost opportunity for America. Sad. It just means more debt, higher costs, less efficiency, more unemployment, stagflation, and other miseries.
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KarenT
The crazies on the right are driving me crazy!
12:50 PM on 04/01/2010
How would you reform health insurance without costing the taxpayers a penny and how is this increased government control?
01:01 PM on 04/01/2010
Karen, this bill creats 156 new government agencies and proposes to hire about 15,000 new IRS agents to enforce it. These agencies require doctors to give patient information to the government so that the government can determine which treatments are most "efficient" There is going to be lots of government control. The great majority of doctors hate this bill.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
12:56 PM on 04/01/2010
Right... we're just going to believe economic predictions from the conservatives who just drove America into a Second Great Depression.
01:06 PM on 04/01/2010
Who told you this recession was the second great depression. Please read a little history and look at the recession just after WWII and look at the economic conditions during the presidency of Jimmy Carter.
11:58 AM on 04/01/2010
I guess KathyinCT doesn't care for old people.
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rgilley
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11:56 AM on 04/01/2010
Seniors should be more wary of these tea party wackos:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/31/tea-party-leader-we-shoul_n_519970.html

They want to abolish Soc Sec altogether!
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laaambchop
Cheerfulness is a sign of wisdom
12:11 PM on 04/01/2010
It's not the seniors who should be wary, it's Generation X, Y and Z.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/buchanan/20100401.html

" The opponents of Social Security have, in fact, been surprisingly successful in the last few decades in convincing younger workers that they are being cheated. Polls show, for example, that many young people do not believe that Social Security will pay them any benefits at all in the future. Many believe that the system is going to go "bankrupt," and they are convinced that Social Security's trust funds are an accounting gimmick. "
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
12:57 PM on 04/01/2010
That's funny, because Social Security was running a surplus before GWB and his "fiscal conservatives" got their greedy little hands on it...
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Hank10303
Reality Check
12:23 PM on 04/01/2010
YES THEY DO
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DredLockRasta
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11:48 AM on 04/01/2010
When they get their $250 rebate check and notice a decrease in the drug bill they will change their tune,