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Karzai Reportedly Threatens To Join Taliban

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First Posted: 06/05/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:05 PM ET

(AP) KABUL - Afghan President Hamid Karzai threatened over the weekend to quit the political process and join the Taliban if he continued to come under outside pressure to reform, several members of parliament said Monday.

Karzai made the unusual statement at a closed-door meeting Saturday with selected lawmakers -- just days after kicking up a diplomatic controversy with remarks alleging foreigners were behind fraud in last year's disputed elections.

Lawmakers dismissed the latest comment as hyperbole, but it will add to the impression the president -- who relies on tens of thousands of U.S. and NATO forces to fight the insurgency and prop up his government -- is growing increasingly erratic and unable to exert authority without attacking his foreign backers.

"He said that 'if I come under foreign pressure, I might join the Taliban'," said Farooq Marenai, who represents the eastern province of Nangarhar.

"He said rebelling would change to resistance," Marenai said -- apparently suggesting that the militant movement would then be redefined as one of resistance against a foreign occupation rather than a rebellion against an elected government.

Marenai said Karzai appeared nervous and repeatedly demanded to know why parliament last week had rejected legal reforms that would have strengthened the president's authority over the country's electoral institutions.

Two other lawmakers said Karzai twice raised the threat to join the insurgency.

The lawmakers, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of political repercussions, said Karzai also dismissed concerns over possible damage his comments had caused to relations with the United States. He told them he had already explained himself in a telephone conversation Saturday with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton that came after the White House described his comments last week as troubling.

The lawmakers said they felt Karzai was pandering to hard-line or pro-Taliban members of parliament and had no real intention of joining the insurgency.

Nor does the Afghan leader appear concerned that the U.S. might abandon him, having said numerous times that the U.S. would not leave Afghanistan because it perceives a presence here to be in its national interest.

Karzai spokesman Waheed Omar's phone was turned off and another number for him rang unanswered Monday. Deputy spokesman Hamed Elmi's phone rang unanswered.

The comments come against the background of continuing insurgent violence as the U.S. moves to boost troop levels in a push against Taliban strongholds in the south.

NATO forces said they killed 10 militants in a joint U.S.-Afghan raid on a compound in Nangarhar province's Khogyani district near the Pakistani border early Monday, while gunmen seriously wounded an Afghan provincial councilwoman in a drive-by shooting in the country's increasingly violent north.

NATO also confirmed that international troops were responsible for the deaths of five civilians, including three women, on Feb. 12 in Gardez, south of Kabul.

A NATO statement said a joint international-Afghan patrol fired on two men mistakenly believed to be insurgents. It said the three women were "accidentally killed as a result of the joint force firing at the men."

International force officials will discuss the results of the investigation with family of those killed, apologize and provide compensation, he said.

The two men killed in the Gardez raid had been long-serving government loyalists and opponents of al-Qaida and the Taliban, one serving as provincial district attorney and the other as police chief in Paktia's Zurmat district.

Their brother, who also lost his wife and a sister, said he learned of the investigation result from the Internet, but had yet to receive formal notice.

Mohammad Sabar said the family's only demand was that the informant who passed on the faulty information about militant activity be tried and publicly executed.

"Please, please, please, our desire, our demand is that this spy be executed in front of the people to ensure that such bad things don't happen again," Sabar said.

In the latest of a series of targeted assassination attempts blamed on militants, Baghlan provincial council member Nida Khyani was struck by gunfire in the leg and abdomen in Pul-e Khumri, capital of the northern province, said Salim Rasouli, head of the provincial health department. Khyani's bodyguard was also slightly injured.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the shooting, although suspicion immediately fell on Taliban fighters who often target people working with the Afghan government and their Western backers.

One month ago, a member of the Afghan national parliament escaped injury when her convoy was attacked by Taliban insurgents in eastern Afghanistan. Female government officials regularly report receiving threats to their safety. Some women leaders, including a prominent policewoman, have been assassinated.

The Taliban rigidly oppose education for girls and women's participation in public affairs, citing their narrow interpretation of conservative Islam and tribal traditions. Militants, who are strongest in the south and east, carry out beatings and other punishments for perceived women's crimes from immodesty to leaving home unaccompanied by a male relative.

Also Monday, the organizer of a national reconciliation conference -- known as a jirga -- scheduled for early May said it would not include insurgent groups such as the Taliban. There has also been indications it would include discussion of the withdrawal of 120,000 foreign troops in the country.

Ghulam Farooq Wardak, the minister of education who is organizing the conference, said it will focus on outlining ways to reach peace with the insurgents and the framework for possible discussions.

Out of the jirga will come the "powerful voice of the Afghan people," Wardak said. "By fighting, you cannot restore security. The only way to bring peace is through negotiation."

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12:00 PM on 04/07/2010
What is the big deal over Karzai's comment. He said he would join the Taliban. He is only following American policy. If you can't beat em, join em and claim victory.

Thats exactly what the US armed forces and Obama are doing, by negotiating wtih the Taliban and Pakistan/ISI

How is that different from what Karzai said?

Pffft!
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02:33 AM on 04/06/2010
This happened shortly after President Obama paid a visit.
Historically, and in very general terms, the middle-east muslim world consider AFRICAN blacks as untermenschen.
So if Obama gave him a private political spanking . . .
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02:24 AM on 04/06/2010
If this fool says he might join the taliban then he obviously is a taliban sympathizer, and shares their views. That says a lot about our effort there. Obama needs to make note of this, for the near future especially when that genius, who didn't suspect more deaths with more troops, ask for 30,000 more troops. See it's all about glory with Generals, they don't care who dies to make them seem like George Washington as long as they get the recognition. That's the typical officer in the military
12:01 PM on 04/07/2010
What is the big deal over Karzai's comment. He said he would join the Taliban. He is only following American policy. If you can't beat em, join em and claim victory.

Thats exactly what the US armed forces and Obama are doing, by negotiating wtih the Taliban and Pakistan/ISI

How is that different from what Karzai said?

Pffft!
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Sammy124
02:23 AM on 04/06/2010
To bigin with, you don't prop up irrisponsible people to power and ask them to be responsible. They are not born out of peoples struggle. They are puppets because they are corrupt and irrisponsible. They sell their mama to save their sick self.
Unfortunately this is the new trend. When these puppets around the world refuse to let it go they are asked to at least replace some of their cronies in their parliaments in a specified amount of time. It looks like they came hard on him before he can find other corrupt enough cronies to replace them.
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02:21 AM on 04/06/2010
It is comforting to know that Karzai will not join the insurgents. Wow, is this commitment all we have gotten for our money over the last eight years?
02:06 AM on 04/06/2010
Almost the worst way to get out of a war is the way the Soviets did. A hard war followed by social collapse. Russia by doing so invited terrorists to try to repeat the example. The US getting out of Vietnam was a rather poor exit. We can’t continue to spend like a major war while acting like we are in a permanent skirmish. Karzai may bless us with an easy way out. And Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s suggestion of a negotiated gradual change of power could end up excellent news for us as well as them. He pointed out that more died from infighting after the Soviets left then during the war. If Kucinich instead manages to set a firm date and confusion and chaos follows it wouldn’t help those who supported that kind of ending in the next election.

Let’s realize both Hekmatyar and Karzai our giving us excellent opportunities, and may even help their own country in the process. I want to join the initial joy of the Karzai government when Hekmatyar first asked to try to arraigned peace.
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02:03 AM on 04/06/2010
This guy is likely high on his own country's plentiful poppy. It's time Afghans get the leader they need & deserve, rather than a stoned former Bush CIA lackey.
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01:58 AM on 04/06/2010
“Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world..."
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01:54 AM on 04/06/2010
W-T-F,...
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01:45 AM on 04/06/2010
The fact that the US and its allies are sending our people in harms way and losing their lives to support this person is now disgusting. He is like any Taliban commander. What he is against is eliminating his brother's corruption and he wants to take over monitoring elections. Send him to Gitmo.
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Norma Briggs
01:40 AM on 04/06/2010
Wow--he is starting to sound like the GOP.
01:49 AM on 04/06/2010
good one.
02:01 AM on 04/06/2010
I should never read the comments(every body's so much more wittier). I was going to say that he sounds like beck.
01:29 AM on 04/06/2010
As a close watcher of the region, I take this as a sign of the blowback Karzai is experiencing from his corrupt connections to the insurgency (i.e. poppies and overall bribery). They're getting their behinds kicked by the Pakistani crackdown combined with the U.S. troop escalation. This could be a sign of the actual end of Karzai as well as the Taliban. Karzai's always played both ends against the middle, he's now throwing down on the side of his domestic opponents in an attempt to spook his international ones into supporting him. It's a longshot play, and it might pay off, but I'm not sure it points to the strength of the Taliban.
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Aedh Wishes
04:31 AM on 04/06/2010
Good points. I think the Pakistani crackdown has also undermined his recent efforts to negotiate with the Taliban, so this could be a bit of necessary damage control.
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01:12 AM on 04/06/2010
Goodnight fellow citizens.
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Those who would not eat it were killed."
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01:27 AM on 04/06/2010
Who enjoyed the other half of the apple? Was it the ______ or was it the ______..
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matthewmslc
01:12 AM on 04/06/2010
I say he should join them! He would be killed and then maybe we could end this stupid war.
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01:09 AM on 04/06/2010
The Puppet has gone Native on us!

Break out the hounds, "The Empire" can not tolerate such defiance... no matter how staged it may be for public consumption... while the powers to be are making kissy-kissy behind closed doors!

Its a charade... the Mayor of Kabul (Krazy-Karzai) is powerless (walking-dead-man) without his US appointed bodygaurds..