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Giuliani's Obama-Nuke Critique Defies And Ignores Reagan

First Posted: 06/07/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:05 PM ET

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Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani has been arguably the most frank and vocal critic of President Barack Obama's proposal to vastly limit and ultimately eliminate the potential use and supply of nuclear weapons. In an interview with The National Review on Tuesday, the 2008 Republican presidential candidate called Obama's vision "inept," a liberal fantasia.

"A nuclear-free world has been a 60-year dream of the Left," he said, "just like socialized health-care. This new policy, like Obama's government-run health program, is a big step in that direction."

If only things were so black and white. Of course, one of Giuliani's political heroes, Ronald Reagan, once said that nuclear weapons were "totally irrational, totally inhumane, good for nothing but killing, possibly destructive of life on earth and civilization." Indeed, while he irked his detractors for years over a seemingly endless arms buildup, Reagan was, by his own telling, firmly committed to the abolition of nuclear weapons.

"[F]or the eight years I was president," he wrote in his memoirs, "I never let my dream of a nuclear-free world fade from my mind."

Reagan nearly came to an accord with Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev to destroy all nuclear weapons within 10 years. Before then, he spoke at Fudan University in Shanghai, China, relaying the following vision:

We live in a troubled world, and the United States and China, as two great nations, share a special responsibility to help reduce the risks of war. We both agree that there can be only one sane policy to preserve our precious civilization in this modern age: A nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought. And no matter how great the obstacles may seem, we must never stop our efforts to reduce the weapons of war. We must never stop at all until we see the day when nuclear arms have been banished from the face of this Earth.

If this isn't enough evidence to suggest that Reagan falls under Giuliani's definition of a liberal flower, there is an entire book on the subject matter titled: "Ronald Reagan and His Quest to Abolish Nuclear Weapons."

Of course, Reagan wasn't alone among Republican figures (or figures whom Republicans admire) who have pursued the notion of nuclear weapons reductions. Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger has written about the matter, alongside prominent Democratic foreign policy figures.

And then there is Harry Truman, a Democratic president who Republicans have more than occasionally idealized. Years after signing off on the deployment of the atomic bomb to end WWII, Truman had come to grips with the need to reign in the proliferation of such weapons.

"The hope of civilization lies in international arrangements looking, if possible, to the renunciation of the use and development of the atomic bomb," he told the U.S. Congress on October 3, 1945, "and directing and encouraging the use of atomic energy and all future scientific information toward peaceful and humanitarian ends."

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Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani has been arguably the most frank and vocal critic of President Barack Obama's proposal to vastly limit and ultimately eliminate the potential use and supply of...
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04:23 PM on 04/12/2010
Inept?

You mean like 911-happened-on-my-watch inept?

Or, thought-it-was-a-good-idea-to-put-terrorist-response-center-inside-WTC-after-1993-bombing inept?

Or, married-and-divorced-three-times inept?
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05:59 PM on 04/08/2010
Rudy is again being totally irrational in his efforts to gain coverage for whatever psychibabble spews out of his mouth regardless of how ridiculous it may be. That's OK so long as he is not expecting anyone to think he is a real part of the United States' politcal system, more like a mess that is too much trouble to clean up. It'd be easier to nuke it.
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deezworld83
Free thinker
05:38 PM on 04/08/2010
This guy is totally incredible! I've never heard of anyone who is in favor of nuclear weapons and against their reduction and elimination. Plus where the hell did he get to be such a expert on nukes. The last I looked NYC didn't have any nukes pointed at anyone!
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SHParkland
Interested in solutions!
05:19 PM on 04/08/2010
Has anyone heard or read one single idea or thought from any Republican in the last year (maybe a lot longer if you really want to make the case) that has any wisdom or possibility to help America confront the problems we face today?
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phoenixdoglover
My dog loves my progressive treats agenda
04:41 PM on 04/08/2010
Bitter (adjective)
1. A sharp, unpleasant taste
2. A negative world view
3. Rudy Giuliani
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Kirk59
Liberal since 1968
04:30 PM on 04/08/2010
Does anyone take this guy seriously? The real question is why he is quoted by any media outlet. Mayor Daley here in Chicago may have some thoughts on Foreign Policy, but as a non-expert he should not be quoted. Guiliani may be the least qualified person to ever run for president, and he will hold that title until Palin makes her epic run in 2012.
04:26 PM on 04/08/2010
Rudy Giuliani is a really smart guy................... Just ask him.
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05:41 PM on 04/08/2010
A legend in his own mind...
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chipchuck
Rethink that...
04:25 PM on 04/08/2010
What is it that Rudy does? Does he think he still matters or that people care about him anymore? Sorry dude, your party chose to run McCain & The Fool. You're a has-been that couldn't protect your city from Emanuel Goldstein still sore that the majority rejects fascism.

Here's an idea, get with the rest of your rich republican friends, take all that money you made on the backs of your wage slaves, and find an island to buy. Then set up your perfect little Capitalist nation. BTW, when it breaks down, Socialist America will be there to help you.

Rudy is a joke with no soul.
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dlaurels
03:52 PM on 04/08/2010
Someone should tell Giuliani that he is not qualified to speak on this topic or any other for that matter. Just because he was once a long time ago Mayor of NYC doesn't mean that he knows anything.
03:23 PM on 04/08/2010
Richard Nixon 1972 - Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty

Ronald Reagan 1987 - Intermediate Range Nuclear Force Treaty

George Bush 1 1991 - Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty

I ask that the MSM don't just jump on any actualization from the conservatives or uninformed experts say.
Find your back bone and stand-up and do your research or google. Facts are a hard thing to refute.
This is too important to play politics...... or for ratings.
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juanjo
Plaudite, amici, comedia finita est.
03:22 PM on 04/08/2010
"A nuclear-free world has been a 60-year dream of the Left," he said, "just like socialized health-care. "

Rudy, I grew up in the 50's and 60's. I remember "duck and cover" and the cute little evacuation notes that were sent home with us to our parents saying where we could be picked up after the bombs fell. I don't want that sort of a world to continue for anyone. Just like Nixon, Reagan and GHW Bush all who negotiated reductions in nuclear arms. All noted leftists I might add!
02:59 PM on 04/08/2010
When Rudy, Joe Lieberman, Cantor and Boehner say something then you know the opposite is always TRUE. Very straight forward formula.
03:39 PM on 04/08/2010
Wow, isn't this a sad state of affairs when what you said is simply so true? We live now in a day and age when this is truly the new rule. I would expand to say almost most Republicans who speak now. They have no intellectual basis for their ideas, so they only way for them to speak now is to lie, lie, and tell more lies. It is simply incredible that I can not go a day in my life without hearing a Republican tell the most blatant and childish of straight out lies. WTF, and people still vote for these losers....what does this say about us as a society!
02:22 PM on 04/09/2010
It says we are doomed if we keep Republicans in office. They will definately bring us to war again, bring back some form of slavery as a result of their racism and hate, bankrupt the country, outsource everything, eliminate any form of incentive for higher education....etc. We would be back to uncivilized caveman era.
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SHParkland
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05:15 PM on 04/08/2010
Very sat state if affairs, but TRUE!
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hulagirrrl
02:56 PM on 04/08/2010
Mhhh, I did not know he was such an expert on these issues.
02:47 PM on 04/08/2010
''America isn't easy...America is advanced citIzenzhip. You've got to want it bad. ''

Mr. President :

You are still doing your best. You are still trying to bring America back from the brink of destruction. You are still trying to make America great within this political climate of h8 and fear.

Many people can remember a time when jobs were plentiful and secure..can remember a country not at war...can remember not feeling uneasy as their kids actually walked to school.

Many people can remember sitting out on the porch and saying hi to their neighbour..taking in a breath of fresh air within a slower time.

The election cycle begins anew with many people on the right (pundits, professionals or politicians) proclaiming that if you JUST vote them back in ...that all of the above will come true again. They go about trying to convince you of that by screaming as loud they can about how scary today and tomorrow will be if you don't.

These peoples' 15 minutes of fame are up. The American people shall fear no longer.

Mr. Obama, YOU ARE the President and you are bringing about a better day for all, and a more prosperous tomorrow.

We NEED SERIOUS people ( and YOU ARE SIR:) for the SERIOUS problems America faces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWRVbWMvi7c

Sincerely ,
Your Irish friend...
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iamsparticus
smaller government does not mean inside my vagina
09:31 AM on 04/09/2010
Good Quote!
tqcobb
Free your mind and the rest will follow
02:26 PM on 04/08/2010
Again Rudy's talking out of the side of his neck