"Rubber Rooms" Bounced: Teachers Paid To Do Nothing Will Be Reassigned

Bloomberg Rubber Rooms

KAREN MATTHEWS   04/15/10 06:46 PM ET   AP

NEW YORK — The city will end the practice of paying teachers to play Scrabble, read or surf the Internet in reassignment centers nicknamed "rubber rooms" as they await disciplinary hearings, Mayor Michael Bloomberg and the teachers union announced Thursday.

The deal will close the centers, where hundreds of educators spend months or years in bureauratic limbo, costing taxpayers tens of millions of dollars a year.

"It's an absurd abuse of tenure," Bloomberg said.

Under the agreement with the United Federation of Teachers, most of the teachers will be given administrative or nonclassroom work while their cases are pending. Teachers accused of serious charges including violent felonies will be suspended without pay.

"We're going to put teachers to work instead of having them sit in rubber rooms while their cases are being resolved," Bloomberg said.

About 650 educators, more than 500 of them teachers, are in the rubber rooms earning some $30 million in salaries, officials said.

The nickname refers to the padded cells of asylums, and teachers have said the name is fitting, since some of the inhabitants can become unstable.

"There are fights among teachers because some teachers are nuts," said Leonard Brown, a high school teacher who spent four years in a reassignment center in Queens. "They put crazy people in with very sane people."

The city has blamed union rules that make it difficult to fire teachers, but some teachers assigned to rubber rooms say they have been singled out because they ran afoul of a principal or they blew the whistle on someone who was fudging test scores.

Past attempts to expedite the disciplinary process have borne few results, but Bloomberg said Thursday's agreement will carry more weight because it includes deadlines for resolving cases.

Under the pact, the Department of Education will have 10 days to file incompetence charges or 60 days to file misconduct charges, depending on the nature of the case. If no charges are filed by the deadline, the teacher will be sent back to the classroom.

"Together, we and the UFT are saying enough is enough," said Schools Chancellor Joel Klein. "No more rubber rooms. They aren't good for anyone. Not for teachers, not for students, not for schools."

UFT President Michael Mulgrew said ending the rubber rooms has been a priority since he took over as head of the union last year.

"We want a faster, fairer process," he said.

Teachers who are or have been assigned to rubber rooms said they welcomed the agreement.

"We want to coach those that are not prepared for this profession to move on. However, we also want justice for those who have been accused of wrongdoing," said Orlando Ramos, who spent seven months in a rubber room in 2004-2005. "The rubber room has been the wrong answer for so long."

Ramos, who is now a middle school principal in San Jose, Calif., was an assistant principal in East Harlem when he was accused of lying at a hearing on whether to suspend a student. Ramos denied the allegation but quit before his case was resolved and moved to California.

David Suker, who is assigned to a rubber room in Brooklyn, said teachers there were waiting to hear details about how the system would be dismantled. "It's just another typical day in terms of powerlessness," Suker said.

But Philip Nobile, who has been in a Brooklyn rubber room for nearly three years, said Thursday's agreement is a step in the right direction.

"We won't have people in rubber rooms for years uncharged," he said.

Instead of going to rubber rooms, most teachers awaiting disciplinary hearings will now perform administrative work in department offices or nonclassroom work in their schools.

Klein said teachers accused of serious wrongdoing will be suspended without pay after appearing at a probable cause hearing. Some who are accused of serious sexual or financial misconduct would be suspended with pay.

Officials agreed to increase the number of arbitrators who hear teachers' cases from 23 to 39 and said they hope to catch up with backlogged cases by the end of the year.

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Associated Press Writer Sara Kugler contributed to this story.

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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ECB
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06:07 PM on 04/17/2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NvgLkuEtkA

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buckbuck11
08:52 PM on 04/15/2010
One-note Mike "Blame the Unions" Bloomberg wanted to take over the schools. He wanted the power but will accept no accountability himself for the type of mismanagement that contributed to this debacle. It was the UFT that took the initiative to end the "rubber room" debacle. This is a classic example of highly paid administrators failing to do their job and document misconduct when it occurs. All tenure guarantees is due process. Nothing more. The union negotiated time limits to end this fiasco.
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2CLEVER
05:48 PM on 04/15/2010
he's been mayor for how long????
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ECB
Your micro-bio is empty
06:29 PM on 04/15/2010
Right - He just found out !
05:21 PM on 04/15/2010
Another example of stupid union work rules. The backlash against unions is building as more Americans are exposed to the economic and legal nonsense that unions impose upon everyone just so they can extort above market wages, pensions and benefits to the detriment of the country as a whole. As states, cities and the federal governments careen towards bankruptcy, the 90% of us who are non union have no sympathy for these bloodsucking, overpaid and underworked wards of the state.
05:48 PM on 04/15/2010
Give me a break, you think this is representative of the norm? This is ridiculous and everyone knows it. It's not "union", it's a stupid NYC school issue.

I am a teacher, I work about 60 hours per week between school and home. I tutor kids after school, I attend their sporting events because they ask me to, I call their parents when I think they might have an eating disorder. I am not a bloodsucker, nor overpaid (what a joke), nor underworked (5 presentations per day? 150 kids?)

I am in the union. Do you know what it does? It guarantees that I won't be forced to teach 6 straight classes with no breaks, that they can't force me to be the cheerleading advisor if I don't want to, that they can't fire me if I get married, if I get pregnant, if I get divorced, that YOUR CHILD won't have to suffer in a class with 45 kids in it so they can save a few bucks. It provides me legal protection if I am falsely accused because I cannot afford it otherwise. You think this is exaggerated? This is what a teacher's life was pre-union days.

You have no clue what you are talking about, smoky.
07:04 PM on 04/15/2010
Bravo, chapmaly! I want someone as fiercely articulate as you (not to mention hard-working and devoted) teaching my kid! Thanks for all you do, day in and day out.
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08:54 PM on 04/15/2010
My wife is a teacher, and you're fanned.
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ReasonIsMyReligion
Don't know much micro-bio-logy
10:24 PM on 04/15/2010
Wrong.

"Rubber rooms" were about an administration denying due process to employees.
04:13 PM on 04/15/2010
In a democracy due process is appropriate for any who are charged. Unions make the due process guarantee a real one. One only has to live in a system without due process to understand its value in a democracy.
04:40 PM on 04/15/2010
make them work for their pay. that's all.
11:04 AM on 04/16/2010
Who, after all is said and done, is responsible for this situation? Management runs these schools under good ole Mike $$$$$and his henchman who are responsible for this fiasco. The union stands for due process and thank goodness for that. Let Klein and Mikey carry out what THEY have wrought. They wanted full control and got full control. Well, let's acts responsibly Mikey & Joel. Do YOUR JOBS and not look for scapegoats.
08:49 AM on 04/16/2010
A company or business is not a democracy and there is no place for it in the school system either. You should be able to hire and fire any employee at any time for any reason. It's called "at will" employment.

How about we make it hard for employees to "quit" when they want to? How come an employee can quit when they don't think it's working out or find a better job but when a employer does not think it's working out or they find a better employee (teacher) they have to pay 30 million a year to have the employee sit around and do nothing?
11:06 AM on 04/16/2010
jono has little understanding of who is responsible for running the schools. Mikey $$$$and Joel are the ones responsible for any employees who do nothing and are paid. Let's put blame for management where it belongs and not seek the usual union scapegoats.
JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
03:59 PM on 04/15/2010
A lot of the teachers assigned to those rooms are veteran teachers, meaning they worked their way up the ranks for decades, who th city is trying to fire because they can pay newly minted teachers a lot less. Sure it hurts the kids when the teaching staff losses experienced teachers, and is unfair to the professionals who dedicated their lives to educating our kids, but if it saves a few bucks and the kids who get hurt are mainly from poor familes, why should the NYC Dept. of Ed. give a cr@p?
04:26 PM on 04/15/2010
king bloomturd and queen klein are out to gut the system by getting rid of experienced teachers by closing poor performance schools, and putting up charter schools with new teachers. btw, the charter schools get to cherry pick its students, so they come out smelling like a rose. the losers - the CHILDREN of NYC.
03:37 PM on 04/15/2010
This story mentions only fairly tame violations by those teachers in the rubber rooms. It fails to mention the teachers awaiting discipliary action for such things as sexual assault, harrassment and inappropriate conduct with a minor. There may be some teachers who have committed minor infractions and, as a result, are required to stay in these rooms; but there are more who have committed more serious offenses and, if the allegations are true, should not be allowed back into a classroom.
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ReasonIsMyReligion
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03:58 PM on 04/15/2010
True. But the process was clearly broken.
04:27 PM on 04/15/2010
you are free to add details and actual cases you know
08:29 AM on 04/16/2010
Google the topic yourself if you want more detail. The following is a link to a story HuffPo ran in June 2009 that indicates teachers in the rubber rooms have been accused of offenses ranging from insubordination to sexual misconduct:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/22/new-york-teachers-paid-to_n_219336.html
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ReasonIsMyReligion
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03:33 PM on 04/15/2010
The city and the media love to crow about the waste. And I agree.

But the silence is deafening on even BIGGER motherlodes of waste in DOE that continue as per business as usual.
03:52 PM on 04/15/2010
Is the DOE needed? What the heck do they do (that can't be done by individual state departments of education)?
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ReasonIsMyReligion
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03:56 PM on 04/15/2010
To clarify, I was referring to NYC's DOE.

But the straight answer to your question is:
Provide a forum for a national dialogue about national standards (and I'm not even saying all states should have the same one), as a way to put a national check on Kansas et al from churning out idjits.

Note that the NAEP is the only national guide to whether state tests (like my own NY) are hype and bogosity.
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billtmore
Bush the fratboy. Rmoney the bully boy
03:22 PM on 04/15/2010
It may already have been mentioned but there was an episode of this american life that featured the rubberroom it was very good kind of scary
05:51 PM on 04/15/2010
What scared me was that the teachers they interviewed were intelligent, well-spoken and had done nothing to be there. It reminded me of some sort of secret policing.
03:21 PM on 04/15/2010
US education is broken with a capital B and the fault lies at the feet of the "educators", from teachers

to the big people. NTA is about the worst thing to happen to our ed system.
05:52 PM on 04/15/2010
I'm a teacher. Please inform me of what I have done to break our education system. I'm all ears.
03:19 PM on 04/15/2010
How long did it take Mike Bloomberg & the UFT to agree to this solution & this resolution of this long standing problem?
02:08 PM on 04/15/2010
Since it is so easy to make recordings these days they should put tv monitors in the class room Then the teacher has a chance for fair review by their peers and the parents can see how the child behaves and is being treated.
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merger
02:50 PM on 04/15/2010
Wouldn't parents be shocked
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Kimpeach
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01:58 PM on 04/15/2010
This is long, long overdue and I am a teacher. This law needs to be change. Its unfair for the teachers who are working hard and doing the right thing. Some of these teachers makes it harder for us (the good ones).
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SpoooonBK
02:28 PM on 04/15/2010
There a many teachers in NYC rubber rooms that are there on charges that have little to do with their interaction with students. Charges of insubordination are used by principals to reassign teachers that are politically or economically advantageous to remove.

These teachers are sent to what amounts to a holding cell while their case languishes in court.

It is good to know that at least, they will be able to something productive instead of being stuck in a demeaning situation.
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sph272
03:09 PM on 04/15/2010
"These teachers are sent to what amounts to a holding cell while their case languishes in court."

I'm not sure you get paid full salary when you're in a holding cell.
02:53 PM on 04/15/2010
As you are a teacher, you need to proofread.
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ReasonIsMyReligion
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03:31 PM on 04/15/2010
You are kinder than warranted.
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skunky93
03:50 PM on 04/15/2010
So unnecessary. Ur an adult, not a child and fully incapable of being influenced by spelling errors.
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AndyWright68
Freedom is inevitable!
01:55 PM on 04/15/2010
Fire these losers!
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ReasonIsMyReligion
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03:32 PM on 04/15/2010
Ya mean Bloomberg and Klein?
Amen!
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AndyWright68
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05:29 PM on 04/15/2010
The teachers but whatever.
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PartTimeRoadie
01:39 PM on 04/15/2010
As someone that was beaten by teachers in Elementary and Middle school, but couldn't have anything done to them because of Tenure (and since there were no photos of it happening, kinda like Breitbart, the police figured it didn't actually happen), this is excellent news!