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Obama On Mars Landing: 'I Expect To See It'

SETH BORENSTEIN and ERICA WERNER   04/16/10 03:44 AM ET   AP

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CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — President Barack Obama boldly predicted Thursday his new plans for space exploration would lead American astronauts on historic, almost fantastic journeys to an asteroid and then to Mars – and in his lifetime – relying on rockets and propulsion still to be imagined and built.

"I expect to be around to see it," he said of pioneering U.S. trips starting with a landing on an asteroid – a colossal feat in itself – before the long-dreamed-of expedition to Mars. He spoke near the historic Kennedy Space Center launch pads that sent the first men to the moon, a blunt rejoinder to critics, including several former astronauts, who contend his planned changes will instead deal a staggering blow to the nation's manned space program.

"We want to leap into the future," not continue on the same path as before, Obama said as he sought to reassure NASA workers that America's space adventures would soar on despite the impending termination of space shuttle flights.

His prediction was reminiscent of President John F. Kennedy's declaration in 1961, "I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to Earth." That goal was fulfilled in 1969.

Obama did not predict a Mars landing soon. But he said that by 2025, the nation would have a new spacecraft "designed for long journeys to allow us to begin the first-ever crewed missions beyond the moon into deep space."

"We'll start by sending astronauts to an asteroid for the first time in history," he said. "By the mid-2030s, I believe we can send humans to orbit Mars and return them safely to Earth. And a landing on Mars will follow. And I expect to be around to see it."

The biggest criticisms of Obama's plans have been that they have lacked details and goals. Thursday's speech was an attempt to answer, especially since an asteroid is the next step away from Earth's reach.

Asteroids zip by Earth fairly often and have occasionally smacked the planet with disastrous results. For example, asteroids have been blamed for the extinction of the dinosaurs.

Landing on an asteroid would give scientists a better idea of how to handle a future killer asteroid that could wipe out much of life on Earth. Also, it would be a feat sure to win great attention – and there is far less gravity than the moon, meaning it would be easier and cheaper to leave.

"I think he said all the right things" in declaring a commitment to space exploration, said George Washington University space scholar John Logsdon, who has served on several NASA advisory boards. "I don't know what more you could have asked for."

But several Republicans, including Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana and Rep. Rob Bishop of Utah, assailed Obama's plan and speech, calling his plans "job-killing."

"The president's new plans for NASA are flat-out irresponsible," Vitter said. "He has evidently decided ... that it's time for us to simply walk away from manned space exploration for the foreseeable future, with no clear timeline for returning or for achieving any of our goals for deep space exploration."

Obama said he was "100 percent committed to the mission of NASA and its future." He outlined plans for federal spending to bring more private companies into space exploration following the soon-to-end space shuttle program.

He acknowledged criticism for his drastic changes to the space agency's direction. But, he said, "The bottom line is: Nobody is more committed to manned space flight, the human exploration of space, than I am. But we've got to do it in a smart way; we can't keep doing the same old things as before."

Obama said the space program is not a luxury but a necessity for the United States.

He noted that the Kennedy Space Center has inspired the nation and the world for half a century. He said NASA represents what it means to be American – "reaching for new heights and reaching for what's possible" – and is not close to its final days.

Obama sought to explain why he aborted President George W. Bush's return-to-the moon plan in favor of a complicated system of public-and-private flights that would go elsewhere in space, with details still to be worked out.

"We've been there before," Obama said of the nation's moon landings decades ago. "There's a lot more of space to explore."

He said his administration would support continued manned exploration of space "not just with dollars, but with clear aims and a larger purpose."

The Obama space plan relies on private companies to fly to the space station, giving them almost $6 billion to build their own rockets and ships. It also extends the space station's life by five years and puts billions into research to eventually develop new government rocket ships for future missions to a nearby asteroid, to the moon, to Martian moons or other points in space. Those stops would be stepping stones on an eventual mission to Mars itself.

Addressing concerns of job losses to space program workers, particularly in Florida, Obama said that "despite some reports to the contrary," his plan would add more than 2,500 jobs to the Cape Canaveral region over the next two years than would the plan worked out by his predecessor.

"We'll modernize the Kennedy Space Center, creating jobs as we upgrade launch facilities. And there is potential for even more job creation as companies in Florida and across America compete to be part of a new space transportation industry.

"This holds the promise of generating more than 10,000 jobs nationwide over the next few years. Many of these jobs will be created in Florida, an area primed to lead in this competition," he said.

Among his most vocal critics has been Neil Armstrong, the first man to walk on the moon. Obama did not mention Armstrong, who did not attend the speech, but he did praise Buzz Aldrin, one of Armstrong's Apollo 11 crewmates.

Aldrin did attend the speech – flying in with Obama on Air Force One.

Obama also said his administration would rescue a small part of the moon program: its Orion crew capsule.

But instead of taking four astronauts to the moon, the not-yet-built Orion will be slimmed down and used as an emergency escape pod for the space station.

Obama spoke in the vast launch complex's Operations and Checkout building – the place where Orion is scheduled to be eventually prepared for launch.

The president said, "This Orion effort will be part of the technological foundation for advanced spacecraft to be used in future deep space missions. In fact, Orion will be readied for flight right here in this room."

White House science adviser John Holdren summed up Obama's program as "a faster pace in space, more missions to more destinations sooner at lower cost."

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DjTanner
03:29 PM on 04/20/2010
Space is a luxery especially in this economy. I work in space, in almost all aspects and very familiar with funding, manufacturing, etc. Yes there will be an increase in space jobs, we will have more companies but I don't think we'll have results that will get us any closer to the Moon, Mars or beyond. There are no real solutions to anything, just the nth generation space telescope, or the 65th Earth observational spacecraft, or something similar. If you are trying to change a light bulb, do you build a desk to get it or instead grab the ladder?

Ultimately space is going to be run by the consumer or commercial enterprise. Too long are space companies sucking on the government's tit when it comes to endeavours. Honestly, we are getting churned again, and again results. Innovation comes from persistance and results come from competition which is usually driven by a market. Unfortunately the public interest is pretty null, and I imagine Obama knows that. It's hard to say we're going to Mars when people don't care. Yes all the space dorks do, but that's it. And until otherwise we'll just be churning.

www.mcserved.com

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Bubba Gump
Christian, Liberal, Former NCO -- US Army Reserve
06:28 PM on 04/18/2010
President Obama, if you can't allow America to return to the Moon (a relatively simple task) and to let NASA learn how to inhabit an alien world, how do you propose we work out the bugs for a Mars flight and landing? On the fly? Sir, work on the existing and new technologies here at Earth and on the Moon -- in reach of an emergency mission, before you leap to do something complicated on Mars! Didn't you hear the Columbia and Challenger disaster reports? If we'd used established methods like Apollo, there might be 14 people alive today that instead perished from a "complicated" space shuttle system. Please give us a detailed plan. Please don't finish off our hope in the American dream.

"Space, the final frontier...."
05:35 PM on 04/19/2010
Sure, let's do the safe, "conservative", low risk, familiar missions. Using this approach, we'd still be orbiting the earth and only dreaming of future moon missions. No need to develop new technologies for another moon mission. Comparing the moon mission to the Mars mission is like driving down to the local liquor store vs driving out of state (respectively). There is little risk and you don't learn anything new. There's no challenge to a, "Been there, done that", mission. Great! You're back on the moon, now what? Same old surface, same old experiments. No doubt the previous administration's objective was to colonize the moon and eventually turn it into a military base.

Canceling the moon mission and modifying the Orion and the Aries hardware is a good start. Aries is currently designed for 4 astronauts. The space shuttle normally flies 7 and can accommodate up to 11 in an emergency mission. Aries V can lift more cargo than the space shuttle, but it can't launch or return bulky payloads like the space shuttle can. Aries is a one-way ride and the Orion appears to be based on the Apollo design. Old technology. We need to remember the challenges of developing the technology and hardware to go from sub-orbital, to low earth orbit, to going to and landing on the moon. We need to apply these to the Mars mission. This will maintain most NASA jobs while developing new.
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DjTanner
03:36 PM on 04/20/2010
It's so funny how ever is an expert after the fact. Like the bank bailouts and all, everyone looks back to point the finger. But if the same thing happened and succeeded, everyone would pat each other on the back. Laws were broken though, right? I guess that's for the quotes.

Look the shuttle and Apollo are vastly separate projects and missions. Apollo was designed and destined for flight going to the Moon. Not for research in low Earth orbit. Remember that 3 people died while it was on the ground and another 3 almost died. That's 6/7 successful destined crew that entered the cockpit came out. However ultimately it is about risk and deciding on what risk is necessary and not.

I am sorry, this Obama's plan will not put us closer to space. It will create a small bubble in the space community based on government funding. When government funding is pulled back (mark my words, it will roll back) these companies will not be sustainable under a nil consumer based. Space is mostly a government affair and until private enterprise really steps up to the plate, it will continue to do so.
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DjTanner
03:21 PM on 04/20/2010
Much agreed.
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copestir
05:59 PM on 04/18/2010
Show me the jobs! This guy is a bit of a disappointment. He talks the talk about the space program. But does not do the walk. Where's the program? Where are the Jobs?
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drricklippin
physician-activist-poet
11:35 AM on 04/17/2010
Mars? Why? I don't want to hear that bullshit about America's tradition of adventure and exploration.

We and our planet are dying. It's time to look inward and earthward.

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
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eddiestardust
02:17 PM on 04/18/2010
Dr. Lippin,

Have you ever looked through an instrument, commonly known as a TELESCOPE?

Please sir, avail yourself of the opportunity at one of our Starwatches that we ( Bucks-Mont. Astronomical Assoc., Inc) hold monthly across Bucks County.

http://spaceweather.com/

Maybe you just might be surprised.....
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eddiestardust
02:19 PM on 04/18/2010
Ooops....here is the Correct url...

http://www.bma2.org/page1.html
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VapeGirl
Progressive Democrat and proud of it!
01:12 PM on 06/05/2010
NASA gets 1/2 a penny from every dollar spent for the US budget. Just a half a cent! Let's see what it bought us. New satellites that study the environment on Earth. New satellites that study the sun that effects the Earth. Those are just for starters. Then it bought US the Space Shuttle and the ISS and exploration of Mars, Saturn, and Jupiter probes to the far reaches of our own solar system.

All these things actually do help the Earth! Just learn to read about the actual contributions from the space program before you go and say "Stop spending money on it - it's a waste!" Many things you take for granted today are here because the scientist and researchers of companies that were funded by NASA created or discovered them.

If anything we should stop feeding the frakking war machine and killing each other. That would go a long way to solving problems on Earth. Want to save money that can be better used here on Earth - stop spending it on ways of killing other humans!!!!!!!!
04:26 PM on 04/16/2010
Dear Mr. President,

CLOSE GUANTANAMO FIRST.
04:08 PM on 04/18/2010
yeah, that's relevant.
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choot
I'm keeping the hope AND the change
03:05 PM on 04/16/2010
OMG, we're going to be aliens on another planet!
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RRK70
02:23 PM on 04/16/2010
If we are to send a person to the moon, that person should be a REAL true blooded American. I therefore humbly submit the nomination of Sarah Palin for the Mars (or Venus) manned mission!
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choot
I'm keeping the hope AND the change
03:04 PM on 04/16/2010
LOL. Fanned!
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Josh Pritchett
07:48 PM on 04/16/2010
Don't be silly, Venus has enough hot air as it is!!!!
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RRK70
10:22 PM on 04/16/2010
well if you're suggesting that she is contributing to global warming, all the more urgency to get her under way!
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shthar
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02:14 PM on 04/16/2010
I'm dissapointed he didn't use the line I suggested.

"Some people say we'll never see man walk on mars. Some people said we'd never have a black president." (wait for applause)
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Josh Pritchett
07:50 PM on 04/16/2010
By scrapping Orion and going for an astroid and Mars is: "To Bodly go where no one has gone... BEFORE!!!" I really wish he would have said that!!!!
01:45 PM on 04/16/2010
I hope to see it!
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StansDad
Guy who eats food
01:40 PM on 04/16/2010
no point in going to mars. none.
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digitalprophet
Cthulhu Fhtagn! Ia! Ia!
05:41 PM on 04/16/2010
Other than the giant general scientific value, the incredible passion and interest into math and science, a tremendous goal to push our limits, etc... It'd be nice to have a second home in the solar system.. Insurance policy and all..

Don't comment on a science post if you can't give some reasoning for your cynicism.
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StansDad
Guy who eats food
06:28 PM on 04/16/2010
no, no, no and no. Sending a human to Mars offers us nothing that probes can't do already. You're naive and short sighted optimism is baseless. Mobilizing our resources to send a handful of people to mars is a poor choice indeed when anything that can be accomplished can be done with less risk and with higher, more reliable data yields. Why not commit to more noble and useful goals like a space elevator or cold fusion? If it's some sort of inspiration boost then why is it that other nations the lack a space agency are yielding more, and better students in the areas of math and science annually?

This isn't your post, nor is it a science post (see the tab "Tech") so stop trying to act like some sort of authority on the matter.