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Bill Gates Sr. Leads Charge To Tax The Wealthy In Washington State

CURT WOODWARD   04/21/10 09:08 PM ET   AP

Bill Gates Sr Taxes

SEATTLE — Hoping to tap a populist surge following the Great Recession and corporate bailouts, liberal activists want to implement an income tax aimed exclusively at Washington state's wealthier residents – couples pulling in $400,000 or more annually.

Washington is one of seven states without a personal income tax, and voters have rejected attempts to establish a personal or corporate income tax five times. But the last statewide votes were in the 1970s, and sponsors of this year's campaign have clearly sensed a political shift.

The effort comes about three months after voters in neighboring Oregon upheld higher income taxes on couples earning more than $250,000. New York, Maryland and other states also have increased taxes on their wealthiest residents in recent years.

Sponsors of Washington's proposed ballot measure are coupling their "high-earners" income tax with a 20 percent cut in the state property tax and an expansion of the credit for business-and-occupation taxes.

With that combination, Initiative 1077 will be marketed as a major tax overhaul that helps middle-class families and small businesses, while asking for a bit more from the rich – or, as prominent tax-reform advocate Bill Gates Sr. put it Wednesday, "the top 3 percent – who can afford to pay."

"We've talked about the need for serious tax reform in this state for a good many years ... and for years, nothing has been able to be done," said Gates, father of the Microsoft Corp. co-founder. "So today, this day, we're going to begin to do something."

The campaign will need to collect more than 240,000 valid petition signatures by July 2 to qualify for the November ballot. Any organized opposition campaign could take time to develop, but criticism and predictions of failure were already flying Wednesday.

Conservative activist Tim Eyman, who showed up at the coffee shop hosting the income-tax announcement, said I-1077 would almost certainly make the ballot because of its wealthy supporters. But he didn't think voters would go along with it, particularly following the recession and fresh state tax increases on beer, soda pop, service businesses and more.

"It is the Holy Grail for the progressive movement," Eyman said. "They probably should have had this event at a church because it requires so much faith."

Eyman said the drive for an income tax illustrates the need for his Initiative 1053, which would reinforce a difficult two-thirds threshold for the Legislature to raise taxes.

The proposed initiative sets out two tax brackets. The first tax rate would be 5 percent of the portion of joint income exceeding $400,000, or over $200,000 for individuals. The tax would increase to 9 percent on the portion of income that exceeds $1 million for couples or $500,000 for individuals.

Advocates said it would raise about $1 billion per year for education and health programs. The tax rates could not be changed without a public vote, although the Legislature would be technically able to amend away that requirement after the law has been on the books for two years.

Most of Washington state's taxes come from two sources: The 6.5 percent baseline sales tax and the business-and-occupation tax, levied on a business' gross receipts. Property taxes also are in the mix but have fairly strict caps on their annual growth – the consequence of another voter initiative.

Income tax measures have been attempted over the years in Washington with little success. A graduated income tax was first enacted by initiative in 1932, passing with about 70 percent of the vote. But it was thrown out by the state Supreme Court, which pointed to the state constitution's call for uniform taxation on property.

Since then, some legal experts have said a modern court might overturn the 1933 ruling, arguing that the old decision is based on obsolete legal theory. Gates said he expects I-1077 would be upheld under those circumstances if it passes and is challenged in court.

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On the Net:

I-1077: http://www.yeson1077.com

Eyman's campaign: http://www.voterswantmorechoices.com

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SEATTLE — Hoping to tap a populist surge following the Great Recession and corporate bailouts, liberal activists want to implement an income tax aimed exclusively at Washington state's wealthier...
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12:18 PM on 04/23/2010
A poor man wants to be rich. A rich man wants to be king...
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MidRoaderTurnedLeft
03:05 PM on 04/23/2010
George W. Bush, November 2000.
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sposton
right to tell what they don't want to hear
12:00 PM on 04/23/2010
Just like middle class, the "rich" is a very elastic term. ;-)
09:58 PM on 04/22/2010
Gates probably keeps his dough offshore in some "foundation".
06:07 PM on 04/22/2010
Staes with very low or No INCOME TAXES like florida,Texas are doing relatively well, while States that have the HIGHEST TAXES IN THE COUNTRY LIKE California and New york have Huge Billion $$$$ DEFICITS. Says it all Really!!.
07:58 PM on 04/22/2010
I moved to Texas from Canada in the mid 90's. I was amazed at how much higher my property and school taxes were.

I think when all things are considered it works out near the same. I didn't have a whole lot of money burning a hole in my pocket after the move.

If my tax burden was slightly lower in Texas I feel I got better bang for my tax dollar in Canada.
Better schools, better health care, better social programs, etc.

I also don't want to argue the merits of the American Health Care System. I'm a union tradesman with a cadillac health plan and my wife has worked as a nurse in both countries so I have a pretty good idea how they compare.
10:01 PM on 04/22/2010
CANADA IS GOING DOWN

The present conservative government plus the power of many mafias have made Canada degenerate.

No critcism is allowed - the government has a hell of a lot to hide.
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judiNJ
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05:49 PM on 04/22/2010
I agree. Roll it back to 1950s and 60s - The "Good Old Days"..... tax the rich at 90%, the middle class at 5%. Let the good times roll!
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sarabono
Oldie but Goody
04:03 PM on 04/22/2010
Apparently Obama and the Dem's have listened to Bill Gates Sr's Message:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100421/ap_on_go_co/us_congress_budget
03:31 PM on 04/22/2010
So what's the plan after we tax the rich to death? I've got an idea how about we start by cutting spending and stop blowing money out the @$$.. that should save some money. (I'm talking in general.. not specific states). Additional taxes should be a last resort.
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11:53 PM on 04/22/2010
I doubt that the rich will actually die, don't you?
01:21 PM on 04/22/2010
"Conservative activist" Tim Eyman criticizes William Gates Sr.?

Tim Eyman is not a "conservative activist". He is one of those right-wing cranks who doesn't like to pay his fair share of taxes.

He used to say that he made his money selling fraternity and sorority-branded watches.

Oh wait, that was a lie. He made his money by unlawfully diverting funds from his tax-initiative campaigns.

He is now banned for life from handling political committee financial accounts.

Tim Eyman is a thief, a liar, and a fraud. If HuffPo wants to quote someone with the gravitas to critique the efforts of William Gates Sr. they can do better than Tim Eyman.
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KDog76A
Radical Centrist
01:34 PM on 04/22/2010
yawn, why not actually read the article?

glad to hear yoour all for riding the coattails of the wealthy.

enjoy your welfare check
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11:54 PM on 04/22/2010
Ok, thanks!
12:21 PM on 04/22/2010
Microsoft avoids paying the Business and Occupation Tax on their software licensing revenue by collecting the revenue in Nevada.

http://microsofttaxdodge.com/2010/01/microsoft-tax-dodge-heads-to-olympia.html
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
05:49 AM on 04/22/2010
There is no doubt that the USA needs to wake up and pay living wages to everyone in the workforce.
I do comparisons and we are lacking in that department big time. Not only did we do away with most fulltime jobs, some parttime but we have a new category, the intermittents! Those get 3 to 19 hours per week, no benefits and one individual has to work 3 jobs and still can't get ahead. My sister went back in 1987 to Germany, because of the two jobs she held she had a hard time and she wanted more. It was a good decision. She now makes what my boss makes and we know about the benefits of Europe, we can only be envious. It is a fact that our wages have been stagnant or depressed for 30 years and this needs to be addressed. It only makes sense, one has to pay the masses first in order for them to spend it and to have a great economy!
07:02 AM on 04/22/2010
You need strong Unions like we have in Germany. Despite the recession we still have a good trade surplus: http://www.tradingeconomics.com/Economics/Balance-of-Trade.aspx?Symbol=DEM
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08:10 AM on 04/22/2010
So True!
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
10:47 AM on 04/22/2010
Believe me, I know! It is amazing that people in Germany get much better pay and benefits and the companies are still surviving and not moving to China. Can America
do the same, sure they can, but why should they when people don't want unions and feel they need to get taxed more because otherwise all the rich leave LOL. Some blame the housing crisis on homeowners, our bad economy because we were living to high and mighty. Can you even fathom this garbage?
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abbyrose86
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12:46 PM on 04/23/2010
I had the chance to go to work in Germany about 10 years ago, I passed it up, due to family reasons. I regret that decision every day!
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
05:41 AM on 04/22/2010
Our leaders won't ever do the right thing again because now they got what they wanted all along.
e rich used to pay 95% in taxes, then it was adjusted to 75% and now it is like 16%, why should they
make a law against it, now they have it made. They would rather cut our social programs before they touch their money. And get this, there are still people among us who think
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abbyrose86
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12:46 PM on 04/23/2010
Agreed and Fanned.
05:39 AM on 04/22/2010
Here in Seattle we love Bill Gates Sr. He gets it. If we want to have a livable society, we've got to pay for it. I do pretty well (I guess you could say I'm a rich socialist), but it's clear to me that in order to have the amenities of a decent society, I need to pay up. I have no problem with this.

Tax The Rich Now !!!
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08:14 AM on 04/22/2010
Yep! Mr. Gates Sr. has always been a reasonable man that, "gets it" when it comes to taxes. I think we will eventually have a state income tax some day though, the gas taxes are way to high!
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abbyrose86
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12:34 PM on 04/23/2010
Thank you.
01:54 AM on 04/22/2010
It will be interesting to see if Washingtonians fall for it. This is a deep blue state, but it remains to be seen if they are that stupid. Oregon passed the tax the rich bill and then the state turned around and said they were still short 400 million dollars. historically taxing the rich just drives the rich out of state and revenues drop. That's what happened in California.
05:50 AM on 04/22/2010
Good riddance to bad rubbish. Thomas J. Stewart left Seattle because the City wouldn't let him land his helicopter in a dense urban area. (Do you know how LOUD those damned things are!) Then he moved to Arizona where he could do whatever he wanted with his silly helicopter. In February, the thing crashed and killed him and four other people.

Looks to me like that helicopter wasn't such a great idea. Maybe he should have paid more attention to the King County zoning folk.

Of course T. J. Stewart was a rich, arch-conservative, serial violator of campaign finance laws.
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MidRoaderTurnedLeft
08:03 AM on 04/22/2010
Right. Beverly Hills, La Jolla and Hillsborough have become dustbowls.
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01:45 AM on 04/22/2010
"The effort comes about three months after voters in neighboring Oregon upheld higher income taxes on couples earning more than $250,000."

I'm a proud Oregonian, although not born here.
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KDog76A
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01:41 PM on 04/22/2010
scooping up the bennies heh? good for you
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11:58 PM on 04/22/2010
The cuts are gonna expire...nana, nana, nanny!
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01:40 AM on 04/22/2010
Bill Gates, Sr., has tried to reform the way Americans think about our economy. He knew the "death tax" was a dreadful misnomer for what was "estate tax" only on very wealthy, inherited money. It is refreshing to see him at work, doing good work for the rest of us.

"We can have a democratic society or we can have great concentrated wealth in the hands of a few. We cannot have both." Justice Louis Brandeis, U.S. Supreme Court, 1916-1939.