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YMCA Tries To 'Light Up The C' In Name, Programs

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First Posted: 07/03/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:20 PM ET

By Tim Townsend
Religion News Service

POTOSI, Mo. (RNS) About 50 teenagers and their parents gathered at the YMCA Trout Lodge near here recently, in the middle of the Mark Twain National Forest, to praise Jesus Christ.

"We pray that this weekend our hearts are touched, Lord," one of the group leaders, Mark Patterson said, "and that we grow closer to you."

But this was not one of the many church retreats that meet here, and Patterson is not a pastor.

He's the program director of the South City Y in St. Louis, and the group he prayed with was there for FaithFest, the most public evidence yet that the Young Men's Christian Association in St. Louis is returning to its Christian roots.

FaithFest -- a weekend full of Christian rock performances, prayer circles and a worship service -- was the latest piece of the nonprofit group's effort to "light up the 'C' in YMCA," as staffers have begun to put it.

"It's a physical, tangible example of us showing our commitment to faith," said Julie Catron, vice president of marketing and membership for the YMCA of Greater St. Louis.

FaithFest is just the beginning of the Y's move toward a more visible Christianity. For 157 years, the St. Louis YMCA's mission has been "to put Christian principles into practice through programs that build healthy spirit, mind and body for all." But for almost as long, the Y has moved steadily away from overt displays of Christian principles.

That's about to change.

"We are nondenominational, but we think young people should have exposure to a faith experience," said Gary Schlansker, president and chief executive officer of the YMCA of Greater St. Louis. "So we're adding (faith) to our values, and FaithFest was one way to bring that forward."

The St. Louis Y isn't the first, or the only, YMCA trying to reclaim its Christian heritage. The Y in Portland, Ore., for example, recently hired a chaplain and collects prayer requests from patrons. The YMCA of Greater Cincinnati has also moved to reemphasize its Christian character.

Despite its evangelical roots, the YMCA has always been nonsectarian, and in recent decades, members would be hard-pressed to find any evidence of the organization's Christian roots among the treadmills, basketball courts and spinning classes that have come to define the modern-day Y.

Local Y leaders acknowledge that changing the Y's image back from secular to Christian may be a sensitive issue that could take some time.

"We're going to infuse things slowly," said Catron. "We're going to be inclusive and caring and respectful of everyone's unique interests."

Much of the effort will be subtle, apparent only to YMCA members who are looking for it. It might be a slightly different logo featuring "faith" as a new "core value," along with caring, honesty, respect and responsibility, said David Drexler, the St. Louis Y's vice president for information technology, who heads the group's Christian Emphasis Committee.

Patterson said the Y's effort would be subtle but clear.

"You're not going to come into the Y and get bashed over the head with religion," he said. "But we are going to tell people, 'Jesus Christ is the answer in our lives."'

Each of the country's 2,687 Ys is independent, so local operational decisions are made by an association's volunteer board of directors and professional staff. The YMCA of the USA calls itself "one of the largest not-for-profit community service organizations in the United States" with revenue of $6 billion and about 21 million members, 45 percent of whom are 17 and younger.

Drexler -- who came to St. Louis from the YMCA in Cincinnati -- said there was a difference between how the St. Louis Y would be embracing Christianity and the role of the church itself.

"We are not the church, and we don't claim to be the church," he said. "We are an extension -- an arm and a leg to the church, to assist the church."

Drexler said some chapters would allow their facilities to be used as temporary worship spaces, but said it was likely that only Christian members would hold worship services, prayer circles or Bible studies at the Y's St. Louis chapters.

Jewish members may also hold faith-related meetings at some chapters, he said, "because Judaism embraces the Old Testament."

What about Muslim or Hindu members?

"Our mission is to put Christian principles into practice," Drexler said. "Are those Christian principles?"

Ghazala Hayat, chair of the public relations committee of the Islamic Foundation of Greater St. Louis, who was on the board of directors of the YWCA Metro St. Louis for two years, said that was "moving backwards in terms of how to be inclusive."

"What they stand for are universal values," Hayat said. "But this is coming across as telling people that the YMCA has the whole truth. They're willing to take my membership fee, but am I a second-class member because I can't hold a religious service there?"

(Tim Townsend writes for The St. Louis Post-Dispatch in St. Louis, Mo.)

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06:22 PM on 05/09/2010
"What about Muslim or Hindu members?

"Our mission is to put Christian principles into practice," Drexler said. "Are those Christian principles?""

What good is it to spread these "Christian principles" (something I don't believe exists as separate from any other principles) to only Christians?

The Christian thing would be to share your space with everyone. No one ever came to Christ because someone made them feel unwanted, left out, or second class. By the same token, no one ever came to Christ because of random "have you met Jesus today" proselytizing.

You want to let people know the "C" stands for something, fine. Let it stand for loving everyone and treating every with respect. That would would be the most Christian thing of all.
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newtom
eschew obfuscation
01:24 PM on 05/07/2010
This might be the best model for all churches to follow: They provide a useful service, open their doors to everyone without “limitations” beyond common courtesy, and allow anyone who wants to to become involved.
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SocBeat
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12:24 PM on 05/07/2010
It doesn't appear to be enough to do good work. It seems you have to do good work in god's name.
The fact that god doesn't add any value to the services being provided isn't relevant; what's relevant is that it's another opportunity to sell religion.
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11:07 AM on 05/08/2010
Well said and true.
12:58 AM on 05/09/2010
Exactly.
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dawacu
Jesus loves you
02:02 PM on 05/06/2010
I think people would be surprized if they realized how many organizations have a religious orientation. For example, I learned recently that Habitat for Humanity is a Christian organization and that they give a Bible to every new homeowner.
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Skeptical Cicada
04:35 PM on 05/05/2010
"You're not going to come into the Y and get bashed over the head with religion," he said. "But we are going to tell people, 'Jesus Christ is the answer in our lives."'

LOL!! We're not going to shove Jesus-talk down people's throats; we're just going to shove Jesus-talk down people's throats.
01:00 AM on 05/09/2010
It's just like the missionaries. Hey, here's some food. By the way, have you ever heard of Jesus?
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Skeptical Cicada
04:18 PM on 05/05/2010
I use the local Y because it is the closest gym.

The day it starts shoving Christian b.s. down my throat is the day I cancel my membership.
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Insomniak79
07:04 PM on 05/05/2010
Agreed, ever since I moved from CA to PA, I literally have no other options.
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exile
11:46 AM on 05/05/2010
OMg
really this sounds like a money maker to me.
12:50 AM on 05/05/2010
If the YMcA had been the ymCa from the start, no re-emphasis would likely be necessary
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Skeptical Cicada
04:30 PM on 05/05/2010
And it would have gone under financially because a significant portion of its membership doesn't want to be pestered about Christianity. Why do you think it became the YMcA to begin with?
11:37 PM on 05/05/2010
So, why the "c" in the first place??
12:34 AM on 05/05/2010
So send a group of young impressionable teens, hype them up with christian praise songs and music, dance around the spiritual stuff and give them an idea...they are so wired for love and hugs that they will do what is bidden. IT is how many of the conservative mega churches attract lemmings.
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Salty 2
05:32 AM on 05/05/2010
But then you will say gangsta rap and hip hop are OK and don't influence the young ,Right?
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dawacu
Jesus loves you
01:52 PM on 05/06/2010
Fanned
01:07 AM on 05/09/2010
Really!? Where did springsm say anything about gangster rap or hip hop? Oh that's right, nowhere. Can you say "Straw Man?"

By the way, turn on one of the 50 christian infomercial stations, and you will see christian rap and christian hip hop videos. Every single day. And why did you choose rap and hip hop? Why not heavy metal or punk? Hmmmmm? Enjoy any good Tea Rallies lately?
01:01 AM on 05/09/2010
Who's the idiot that flagged this? Salty 2?
bklynsparrow
creating reality from unreal things
05:32 PM on 05/04/2010
OK- then they should no longer get public funding. I don't want my taxes paying for people to tell others that their religion is the "right" religion. And the comment about Jews being allowed to hold meetings because Judaism embraces the Old Testament ( actually, we "wrote" it), while asking if Islam or Hinduism are "christian values?' What's Drexler trying to say? Judaism is a christian value? Islam is one of the Abrahamic faiths. And Drexler is an ignorant fool. I hope every non-Christian member leaves the YMCA and everyone should write to United Way and protest public funding for them.
05:50 PM on 05/04/2010
If you remove their public funding you will be harming the children served by the YMCA, and replacing the functions the Y serves with what exactly? The Y, if it gets govt. money, is much more efficient with its resources than government run programs, are are moth faith based charity organizations. This is because the people involved volunteer and work there because they want to help children, not because they want a government job they can never be fired from....
bklynsparrow
creating reality from unreal things
06:01 PM on 05/04/2010
I'm willing to accept that. They should be willing to be responsible for taking public funding and not abusing the privilege. There are plenty of secular organizations desperate for funding, willing to do the same job..
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Skeptical Cicada
04:20 PM on 05/05/2010
If public funding is removed because the Y won't stop its religious prosyletizing, it is the Y choosing to harm children.
12:31 AM on 05/05/2010
I think the Y is a great entity...but if this happens I hope alot of independent Christians leave too. Those who aren't will not be the only ones insulted or disgusted.
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Salty 2
05:36 AM on 05/05/2010
Why would Christians be insulted or disgusted by being more Christian?
02:19 PM on 05/04/2010
The Christian element of the Y is my reason for avoiding the Y. One of my red father's Communist friends explained to him that as a Communist & professed atheist, I was right to avoid the BSA for the BSA required members to be theists. That allowed me to avoid touchy feely men who hiked to hug their scouts, sleeping outside & allowed me to eschew nature walks & other wholesome scouting activities.
The Cub scouts would be upset if I continued to smoke a pack of Old Golds every week & 5 cent King Edward cigars when I could do it.
05:44 PM on 05/04/2010
Communism has a better track record than the Boy Scouts?
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
06:44 PM on 05/04/2010
well, if you can't find any one else that you are SURE the boyscouts can beat except for the "communists" doesn't speak too well for your faith in bsa
01:42 PM on 05/04/2010
Check the funding streams for this 'Y.' If United Way directs funds to it, or if any municipal, state, or federal funds are directed to it, it's time to sue the folks who want to feature only one religion [or any religion, for that matter]. Let the Executive Director try to get paid when major funds are cut off.
05:48 PM on 05/04/2010
Is the United Way a government organization....? Sate and Fed funds can be directed towards religious organizations as long as they are involved in a social mission. In fact one of the reasons "faith based" charities are allowed to have govt. money under both Bush and Obama is that they serve many of the same functions as government outreach organizations but use resources much more efficiently.
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12:15 PM on 05/04/2010
The mission statements of non-profits are noble - but in practice they are governed by local boards. These boards are generally members of the community elite - people who know how to make a buck and how to take advantage of they system. They are the people who complain about 'welfareites' taking advantage of the system ...........

http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/09/25/united-way-agency-corruption/
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11:19 AM on 05/04/2010
"FaithFest -- a weekend full of Christian rock performances, prayer circles and a worship service -- was the latest piece of the nonprofit group's effort to "light up the 'C' in YMCA," as staffers have begun to put it."

I wonder if they had a policeman, indian chief, construction worker, biker and cowboy there to help in their efforts? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9OO0S5w2k&feature=related
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StarDagger
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02:56 PM on 05/04/2010
Gay meet ups are an important part of the YMCA's heritage and should be respected as well.
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11:03 AM on 05/04/2010
And the Village People are " coming out " of retirement for the advertising campaign...
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ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
12:52 PM on 05/04/2010
It'll require a change to the dance routine having a bigger C, but I suspect they'll be up to it.