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Wall Street Plunge: Cause Still Unclear To Regulators, Computer Trading Eyed

Wall Street Plunge

STEVENSON JACOBS and BERNARD CONDON   05/ 7/10 08:55 PM ET   AP

NEW YORK — Regulators and Wall Street officials scoured millions of trades one by one Friday and canceled thousands as they sought to explain a record plunge in the stock market, undo the damage and keep it from happening again.

It wasn't clear how long the laborious process would take or if it would even solve the mystery behind Thursday's harrowing trading session that saw the Dow Jones industrial average fall hundreds of points and then recover, all in a matter of minutes. The chaotic slide – some stocks briefly fell to near zero – brought back memories of the darkest days of the financial crisis.

The Securities and Exchange Commission and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission were investigating but on the day after, there were more questions than answers:

_ Did a single trader mistakenly punch in the wrong number of shares when making a sell order, maybe mistyping "billion" instead of "million" and setting off a market-wide panic that at one point pulled the Dow down almost 1,000 points?

_ Did high-speed computerized trading systems that are supposed to make markets work smoothly go haywire, sending stocks into a nosedive?

_ Most important to anyone with money in the stock market: Could it happen again?

Maybe the scariest part was that no one could unravel what happened. That left executives at the major stock exchanges pointing fingers at each other, and the public wondering if the hidden world of high-frequency, computerized trading that fed the panic posed a threat to their 401(k)s.

"It could be awhile before they figure it out because they have to sift through everything trade by trade," said San Diego State University finance professor Dan Seiver, who has followed the markets for 52 years. "And humans are a lot slower than machines."

High-frequency trading uses mathematical models and computers to buy and sell huge numbers of shares in milliseconds. It accounts for two-thirds of all stock trading in the U.S., and proponents say it makes the stock market run more smoothly by efficiently connecting buyers and sellers.

One theory for Thursday's decline was that high-frequency traders pulled out of the market briefly. But Jeff Wecker, chief executive of Lime Brokerage, which caters to more than 100 high-frequency trading firms, said his clients bought and sold stocks more – not less – during the steepest drop.

"They're the reason the market rebounded as rapidly as it did," he said.

While the cause remained unknown, market officials said thousands of trades made during the plunge were being canceled because they were "clearly erroneous." Some companies, including consulting firm Accenture, saw their share prices briefly fall to as low as a few cents.

New York Stock Exchange Euronext CEO Duncan Niederauer told CNBC that his exchange canceled 4,000 trades.

At Direct Edge, the third-largest U.S. exchange, employees worked through the night reviewing some of the 10 million trades made Thursday and found 2,000 that had to be canceled, said chief executive William O'Brien.

BATS Global Markets, one of the largest U.S. trading networks, had to cancel 540 trades.

Nasdaq declined to give a number.

The turbulence continued Friday. Amid anxiety about the unexplained plunge and a growing debt crisis in Europe, the Dow was down as much as 280 points and up briefly before closing down almost 139.

Thursday's trading was enough to stir fear among even the most seasoned market veterans.

The Dow had already fallen nearly 400 points by around 2:40 p.m. EDT. Yet the damage only got worse. The Dow tumbled 600 points in seven minutes, giving it a record intraday loss of 998.50, or 9.2 percent. Minutes later, the index inexplicably turned up again, erasing most of the losses.

Among the hardest hit: Procter & Gamble and 3M, among the highest priced of the 30 stocks in the Dow industrials average. Their big drops took the Dow down sharply because it only measures price, not percentage – a $1 drop has the same impact whether the price started at $100 or $2.

On Thursday, at 2:42 p.m., P&G was trading at $61.73. Within seven minutes, it fell 36 percent to $39.37. That drop alone accounted for 169 points that the Dow lost.

Similarly, 3M shares, which fell 17 percent from $83.38, took about 100 points off the Dow.

How did it happen? Speculation on trading floors initially centered on a computerized selloff possibly caused by a typographical error. One theory was that a trader trying to sell millions of shares accidentally sold billions, a move that would have triggered a wave of automatic selling.

The SEC was poring through trading data containing millions of transactions to try to identify what might have caused the disruption, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The two major markets, the NYSE and Nasdaq, were also examining audits of completed trades, according to the people, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing.

At Nasdaq, Thursday's plunge set off MarketWatch, an internal system that alerts regulators to trading problems. Regulators were still sifting through the day's trading data for irregularities, and a Nasdaq spokesman declined to comment on when the investigation will be completed.

NYSE spokesman Raymond Pellecchia said the Big Board is working with regulators but declined to comment further.

BATS CEO Joe Ratterman said SEC officials called him at his Kansas City, Mo., office late Thursday and again Friday seeking information on what might have gone wrong.

Ratterman said the SEC has called a meeting of all exchanges on Monday in Washington.

The SEC said one possible cause it was studying involved conflicting trading rules for different exchanges.

On Capitol Hill, Sens. Ted Kaufman, D-Del., and Mark Warner, D-Va., called for the SEC and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission to conduct a thorough study of high-frequency trading and other tools that move markets in milliseconds.

"We saw a living, breathing, real-time example today of the potential catastrophe that takes place if we don't have an ability to make sure we adequately use this technology," Warner said late Thursday.

"Right now, there is no way to know what is happening in this marketplace," Kaufman said.

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AP Business Writer Daniel Wagner and Associated Press Writer Jim Kuhnhenn contributed to this report from Washington.

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NEW YORK — Regulators and Wall Street officials scoured millions of trades one by one Friday and canceled thousands as they sought to explain a record plunge in the stock market, undo the damage...
NEW YORK — Regulators and Wall Street officials scoured millions of trades one by one Friday and canceled thousands as they sought to explain a record plunge in the stock market, undo the damage...
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Berryives
11:36 AM on 05/11/2010
I think a very effective method of greatly reducing high frequency trading is to implement a stock transactions tax. During 2006 - 2008, the average annual value of trading was $64 trillion [U.S. Securities & Exchange Commission]. A small transactions tax of say 2/10 of a percent would probably slow down this kind of trading a fair amount, and it would generate $128 billion/yr in revenue. A higher tax of 1/2 of a percent would generate $320 billion/yr. The lion's share of this tax burden would fall on high-frequency traders and not on ordinary folks. These small tax rates would be very effective because the small percentage tax would be applied every time stocks were traded, so if the money is turned over many times per year, the profits from high-frequency trading would be eaten up. This would lead to more responsible trading decisions while still allowing for responsible speculation. Of course, Obama's bipartisan commission on the deficit will no doubt come up with recommendations for cutting Social Security rather than taxing very rich speculators to help offset the deficit.
11:54 PM on 05/08/2010
High frequency trading serves no purpose other than speculation and should be banned.
Speculation is counterproductive to the purpose of the market, which is capital allocation for the purpose of productive enterprises and to ultimately generate profit through sale of products. Productive enterprise and profit generation through the sale of products takes time....therefore high frequency trading has no legitimate purpose.

It should be banned. They are perfectly free to go to Las Vegas if they want that kind of fun.
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harrymudd
11:06 PM on 05/08/2010
The solution to volatility is regulation. We need vastly increased regulation. In addition jail terms for financial irregularity. When someone makes a "mistake" and pushed the market down by a 10% that person goes to jail for 1000 years. In addition the people who benefit from it get all their asserts taken and thrown in jail. Enough is enough of these parasites wrecking people and economies. The greatest contribution of free market to the world is this garbage.
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Keith Deines
A dress makes no sense unless it inspires men to w
06:24 PM on 05/08/2010
The cause? ummm.....how 'bout it was the last chance to sell the market short before everyone
woke up to Friday's news that US employment was really on the way up and the sun will most certainly rise again the next day.
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harrymudd
11:08 PM on 05/08/2010
Precisely. The so called mistakes are the way to scare people and then take advantage of market movements. Shorting must be banned and punishable by mega jail terms. In addition short terms gains taxes at 200%.
04:47 PM on 05/08/2010
Regarding Thursday's "Crash" ... watch 1 1/2 minutes of this video starting at 38:30 .... Very enlightening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed2FWNWwE3I&feature=player_embedded
11:05 PM on 05/08/2010
thanks for the link
04:17 PM on 05/08/2010
Would you like to play a game of Global Thermonuclear War? (Imagine a flat computer-generated voice like WOPR's) (old movie reference)

Or, more like

Would you like to play a game of Global Financial Market Meltdown?

Today's stock market is all a bunch of fabricated b.s.
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harrymudd
11:10 PM on 05/08/2010
Just right it is all rigged and people are pushed into it because they have no choice. No pension benefits; CDs and government bonds give 1% so people have to save their 401-K in the market. Then the sharks attack and steal that. We need jail term for these parasites. And a return of government run pension plans.
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04:17 PM on 05/08/2010
Maybe one of the smoke machines clogged or one of the mirrors fogged up. I think the fed needs to print a billion dollars to give to goldman sachs to buy call options on a CDO they'll create on the contracts issued to a corrupt contractor to buy $50,000 worth of new smoke machines and mirrors for wall street.
04:11 PM on 05/08/2010
Why not have something similar to an "uptick" rule for potentially catastrophic market moves?
04:02 PM on 05/08/2010
The STOCK MARKET is NOT the ECONOMY. It's merely a SNAPSHOT of how the COMPUTERS are pushing CORPORATE paper around at a certain, TINY point in time.... how well the CORPORATIONS are doing.

It has NOTHING to do with how well any average PEOPLE are doing.

THIS was the computers playing with a SLINKY toy..
03:54 PM on 05/08/2010
Ask the politicians. They are the ones screwing around with our economy and so-called "financial reform." They are the ones causing the problem. From Congress to The Messiah.
04:01 PM on 05/08/2010
Fatuous PRATTLE.
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Black Democrat
03:46 PM on 05/08/2010
How is the stock market not like sport gambling? At lease in betting, which is black and white, you put your money down and in the end there's a clear winner. In the stock market you never know whats going to happen.
04:01 PM on 05/08/2010
That is ALL is actually is.
03:44 PM on 05/08/2010
"It could be awhile before they figure it out because they have to sift through everything trade by trade," said San Diego State University finance professor Dan Seiver, who has followed the markets for 52 years. "And humans are a lot slower than machines."

Amazing. Looks like nobody even thought it worthwhile to sit up a computerized audit system. I can hear the excuses now: "Nobody could have predicted...."

This despite several cyber attacks and the meltdown in '87.
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Chubbster
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03:37 PM on 05/08/2010
If you think the plunge is a mystery you are reading and hearing the words of high frequency trading apologists and propagandists. Goldman Sachs mainly and others, once again, can not resist making money even at the expense of wrecking the markets and trashing investor confidence. They just want their private bonus billions and the hell with anyone or anything else such as world markets and moral, non-rapacious behavior, It's all about the algorithms and the bucks. Tough luck, investors, the markets are now a casino, not a reasonably honest and reliable place to put investment funds for the future or the 401k.
03:29 PM on 05/08/2010
Wild theory, but cyber attack?

China wants there money back?
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carlgt1
02:55 PM on 05/08/2010
for all the billions spent on people & software, it's funny that basically a simple "race condition" seems to be behind this snafu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_condition